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iTMS Canada Dec. 1 [NOW OPEN]
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StarbucksSam said:
Um... What happened? It happend? What is it? Bush came to Canada today, is that it? I know your not talking about apple itunes store in Canada because im looking at the same screen I was looking at yesterday, and for years now, you know, the screen that says, its not avaible here yet.
Please tell me what happened, maby ill celebrate.
Levy...?
First off if you were truely Canadian and had any interest in Canadian music you'd know that hardly any "active-singing/active-performing" musician or writer (whom has a contract with a recording company) is stuggling.
SHania Twain - is filthy rich! Bar non! Also that Adams singer (sorry not a fan) that is loved by Australians (teens in general) is still enjoying cash flows from an awesome concert there 2 years ago (might be wrong on that concert in Sidney). Oh remember the Swollen Members - > their first album got HUGE Canadian government funding to produce it (read the album sleave its right there)! Other Canadian artists like the hugely successful franco-phone female Selene Dion (oddly enough the simularity between here marrying her manager & that of Shania Twain doing the same is really strange as I'm sure its contributed to BOTH their successes.
The CRTC - STILL hasn't currently imposed the levy until the beginning of 2005! Someone in a similar thread had already done the research.
The politics probably lies in the differences in taxation for Canadians and especially when it comes to promotions by ANY business in Canada - Quebecers are usually left out >>its wrong but their taxation is also different.
Other than that Political difficulties is an agreement.
Anyone know if the site is now live?
itsaploy said:
First off if you were truely Canadian and had any interest in Canadian music you'd know that hardly any "active-singing/active-performing" musician or writer (whom has a contract with a recording company) is stuggling.
SHania Twain - is filthy rich! Bar non! Also that Adams singer (sorry not a fan) that is loved by Australians (teens in general) is still enjoying cash flows from an awesome concert there 2 years ago (might be wrong on that concert in Sidney). Oh remember the Swollen Members - > their first album got HUGE Canadian government funding to produce it (read the album sleave its right there)! Other Canadian artists like the hugely successful franco-phone female Selene Dion (oddly enough the simularity between here marrying her manager & that of Shania Twain doing the same is really strange as I'm sure its contributed to BOTH their successes.
The CRTC - STILL hasn't currently imposed the levy until the beginning of 2005! Someone in a similar thread had already done the research.
The politics probably lies in the differences in taxation for Canadians and especially when it comes to promotions by ANY business in Canada - Quebecers are usually left out >>its wrong but their taxation is also different.
Other than that Political difficulties is an agreement.
Anyone know if the site is now live?
macbing said:
Yup, it's a great store.
Sold me a G5 in 1994.
Sold me a Mac Classic in 1980.
Apparently started selling puretracks songs "a few years ago" (sorry, missed that launch probably b/c it wasn't compatible with my classic or my G5)
I understand their next project is arranging a Nov, 2004 release of ITMS Canada.
A note about Puretracks
I keep seeing it being mentioned in these threads as an option. Go to the website. It is NOT an option for a Macuser.
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Thank you for visiting Puretracks.com
Currently our website supports Internet Explorer 5.0 and above on the
Windows operating system (Win 98SE / ME / 2000 / XP / 2003),
and is available to Canadian residents only.
We value our Mac audience, however the Windows Media player for the Mac
platform is not currently compatible with Microsoft protected audio content.
Puretracks is currently working to make our service available to Mac users.
I keep seeing it being mentioned in these threads as an option. Go to the website. It is NOT an option for a Macuser.
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Thank you for visiting Puretracks.com
Currently our website supports Internet Explorer 5.0 and above on the
Windows operating system (Win 98SE / ME / 2000 / XP / 2003),
and is available to Canadian residents only.
We value our Mac audience, however the Windows Media player for the Mac
platform is not currently compatible with Microsoft protected audio content.
Puretracks is currently working to make our service available to Mac users.
nawk said:
Yah... they have been "working to make our service available to Mac users" since they opened a long time ago.
nawk said:
So much for consumer choice from Big Brother. You can listen to all the MS-DRM protected music you want, as long as it's not on a Mac.
reckless_0001 said:
Um, the problem is that puretracks uses encrypted WMA's and windows media player for mac cant handle encryption. Its actually Microsofts fault for actually making a product with amazing security, some how no one has cracked there protection, wich is sad since windows has been hacked in 4 minutes.
Puretracks cant do anything, even if they could crack encrypted wma's they wouldnt because there a legit company and that would be illegal. If there were a program that was mac friendly and used encryption, then im sure puretracks would work, but till now its very very pointless for them to open to a mac audience when they will never be able to listen
Could it be ???
How about this for a reason, someone, somewhere in the federal government (or perhaps an overeager lawyer ) decided that the store must be accessible from Quebec and exist in French. The Feds learnt everything from the French about language protection. The French store is the only non english store I could find. I know it's not what most people think the delay would be caused by (think record labels) but nothing would surprise me in this day and age.
Nic
How about this for a reason, someone, somewhere in the federal government (or perhaps an overeager lawyer ) decided that the store must be accessible from Quebec and exist in French. The Feds learnt everything from the French about language protection. The French store is the only non english store I could find. I know it's not what most people think the delay would be caused by (think record labels) but nothing would surprise me in this day and age.
Nic
Do they not have stores that sell CDs in Canada. Sheesh quit all the moaning. **logs into iTunes**
Zigster said:
I read in a thread last night that this same thing happened in Ireland and it was the result of the inability to reach an 11th hour agreement with the licensing authorities there. Ireland site is still not up. So relax.. this could take a while.
Speculation that this is federal govt intervention or language police or Canadian content regulation is far fetched, Apple has done business here for a long time and all that would have been considered in the outset of their strategy (if it wasn't then some people need to loose their jobs)
I firmly believe that the source of this delay is industry oriented - nothing more.
jiji said:
I always knew it was M$'s fault... I just could get over Puretracks saying that they were working to get it fixed.
yah, puretracks isnt going to be able to do anything. It is actually funny, Microsoft cant create security for windows, the current hacking record is 4 minutes for windows xp, but no one has ever cracked there encrypted wma's. Kinda sad actually, if they would only care that much for the rest of there security.
Maby the RIAA gave them some programmers that knew what they were doing
Maby the RIAA gave them some programmers that knew what they were doing
On Royalties for Canadians, the CRTC et al.
The body in charge of collecting royalties for Canadian artists is an arm of the Alliance of Canadian Cinema, Television, and Radio artists (ACTRA).
In fact, their website,http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/incrp-prda.nsf/en/rp00294e.html even states as much, and addresses the rights of artists in the Digital Age.
The arm of ACTRA in charge of collecting royalties is outlined in this paragraph, from that website:
The CRTC does things like ensuring that 30% of radio content is Canadian, and that levies are charged on CD-Rs (but not DVD-R's) and all those other things that the goverment wants a piece of.
The body in charge of collecting royalties for Canadian artists is an arm of the Alliance of Canadian Cinema, Television, and Radio artists (ACTRA).
In fact, their website,http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/incrp-prda.nsf/en/rp00294e.html even states as much, and addresses the rights of artists in the Digital Age.
The arm of ACTRA in charge of collecting royalties is outlined in this paragraph, from that website:
The CRTC does things like ensuring that 30% of radio content is Canadian, and that levies are charged on CD-Rs (but not DVD-R's) and all those other things that the goverment wants a piece of.
hmm french language issue
Funny, I had been assuming that this delay was a licensing issue but this issue might have some bite. Is there anyone out there who has some better knowledge than me about the actual legislative requirements on private companies. My understanding was that the Official Languages Act applied to only "federal institutions" but there may be other similar legislation that I don't know about. I could look it up but it'll take me awhile and I thought some other lawyer or law student might have some instant info. Hard-pressed to find a major Canadian website that isn't in English and French though.
Funny, I had been assuming that this delay was a licensing issue but this issue might have some bite. Is there anyone out there who has some better knowledge than me about the actual legislative requirements on private companies. My understanding was that the Official Languages Act applied to only "federal institutions" but there may be other similar legislation that I don't know about. I could look it up but it'll take me awhile and I thought some other lawyer or law student might have some instant info. Hard-pressed to find a major Canadian website that isn't in English and French though.