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iPhone XS Max It''s good to see that all 3 iphones are having slow sales
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No assumption.. Many articles on the subject.. If you think they’ll offer that phone at the same price as the note you’re dilutional...
Buying a smartphone at 1k is splurging.
IMO there's no way the same people paying a grand for phone will spend twice the price for a fancy OLED phone that can fold. Now I can see a 100 to 200 price increase at launch, but no way at 2k.
I think you’ll see a new version of of what people are willing to spend... Remember, this phone won’t be for the masses..Buying a smartphone at 1k is splurging.
Perhaps, but the Note and the MAX are not for the masses. One thousand plus dollars is some serious coin, unless you're very wealthy. Think about it this way, your phone is your life, your contact to your job, family and friends. That means everyone who can afford one is walking around with 500 to 1k machine in their purses and pockets. If you loose it, or it gets stolen, or damaged that's going to have a severe impact on your life financially and personally. People are going to be very weary about investing 2k into somethig they need on a dialy basis.
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they either have to innovate or they have to drop the price or both
I’m really happy with my XR but i feel the op in his/her point
I have a feeling 11/12.9 2018 IPad Pros are selling ok, but prohibitively high pricing and not being a fully unleashed device is holding back sales too... same with MacBook pros stagnating
Good! Tim resting on his laurels and hyperspeeding his greediness are really having tangible impacts
I’m really happy with my XR but i feel the op in his/her point
I have a feeling 11/12.9 2018 IPad Pros are selling ok, but prohibitively high pricing and not being a fully unleashed device is holding back sales too... same with MacBook pros stagnating
Good! Tim resting on his laurels and hyperspeeding his greediness are really having tangible impacts
The problem with the new Iphones is the cost/benefit.
Next year will be good for buying a new phone (that's what i'm waiting) . With the new Samsung S10 design Apple will have to take the Iphone to the next level.
That's good for us, the consumers.
Like i said before, i own both (s7 edge and iPhone 8 plus, last phones that i really wanted to buy because of the features/cost ) , so it would be great to see the next year options.
Next year will be good for buying a new phone (that's what i'm waiting) . With the new Samsung S10 design Apple will have to take the Iphone to the next level.
That's good for us, the consumers.
Like i said before, i own both (s7 edge and iPhone 8 plus, last phones that i really wanted to buy because of the features/cost ) , so it would be great to see the next year options.
Did I say they would? Articles can state all they want. They are wrong a lot of times. Just like how they were wrong about the XS and XS Max price. I didn't know that articles guessing prices of a future phone became a certainty.
Agreed 1,000%! This is also why I buy other prodcuts sometimes. Competition is good. Keeps costs down and keeps innovation up!
Yup, this is the essence of it. Apple has me locked into their ecosystem. It would take not just one great product but a family of great products for me to abandon the terrific integration I get among my Mac, iPhone, iPad, watch, and apple tv.
Buuuuut... Apple's prices have pushed me to hold onto my devices much longer. My Mac is 5 years old - that's a record for me. My iPad is 4, also a record. My phone is only a year and a half old (didn't get it at release), but I'm going to keep it at least until next September, when it will be 2.5, and that will be another record for me.
That's partially because apple has done a great (too great?) job of keeping older hardware running on the newest software. (Aside: I think the talk of planned obsolescence is total crap. Nobody else keeps old hardware running as smoothly and problem-free on the latest OS releases as Apple does.). But it's also because the value proposition of Apple's new hardware is bad. I could probably be persuaded to upgrade to a shiny new toy, even though I don't need it, if I saw the value in their newer releases, but we're seeing skyrocketing prices that often come with design compromises that feel like a step BACK from what I have now (legacy ports, notch, headphone jack, touchID, etc.).
if I'm going to spend $1,000 on a new phone or iPad, or $2000 on a new Mac, I want that new device to be unequivocally superior to what it's replacing - a better experience in every way. And I'm just not seeing that, so I'm not buying.
How were they wrong on the price of the Xs/ Xs Max? Pretty spot on. They were within $100..
So being off by 100 is not wrong? Obviously they wouldn't be far off because they were basing their guesses on previous iPhones. This is a new product. It's completely new tech as well. Of course it's going to be expensive. Stop making statements like it's facts. It might very well be 1700 or 2000. But we don't know yet.
The XS can be fast charged, there is just no fast charger in the box but they're cheap to buy off amazon. Not that I'd recommend it, fast charging your phone every time will degrade the battery faster, partly why Apple doesn't include it. These android phones dont have the optimization that Apple does with iOS, so they have to put in very large batteries compared to iPhones to get similar levels of battery life. Fast charging is a must with these batteries, but after a year of fast charging you won't like what you see.
I already have a cheap wireless charger from Walgreens that works great on all phones. The fast charger is for work, or for when I forget to charge it, so I can get 50% on 30 min, or 75% fast on one hour charge. Keep it in my bag.
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Actually, you acknowledge it will be more expensive than what is the norm now. If you think they’ll offer a foldable phone at the same price point as there non foldable phone(which is already within $100 of the Xs Max) you’re dreaming. I’m just saying if you want leading edge hardware, you going to pay a premium for it..
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One thing that I have learned over the several years of buying new technology is not be the guinnea pig. This goes for everything, such as console launches, PS3, XBOX 360, PS4, XBOX 1, nVidia GFX cards, ect. What usually happens when new technology comes out is something gate, a huge flaw that a good portion of users end up getting screwed. Wait a year until the bugs are worked out, then jump in.
We'll see how far Apple prices takes them. Since you like to believe what the media says. I hope you believe that the sales of the XR and XS has been bad.
So bigotry is your deciding factor. Just say so. That's a far cry from your original post of claiming the Note 9 being a better value just because Apple skipped the fast charger (which I have countered as well a iPhone actually gives better value for its supported life).
Again, no one knows. They said the iPhone X was a flop last year..
So bigotry is your deciding factor. Just say so. That's a far cry from your original post of claiming the Note 9 being a better value just because Apple skipped the fast charger.
IMO the Samsung is the better value for what you get IMO. Can you please stop calling me a fanboy? It's getting annoying.
On Samsung phones you can turn off fast charging and still use the same fast charger that was supplied in the box. It will just charge at a normal rate. So there is flexibility.
Personally I wasn’t that bothered about the fast charger not being included because I have an iPad Pro so I bought the fast charger to use for both devices. However there really wasn’t any reason why Apple couldn’t have included it in the box. Hell even the 12 W standard iPad charger would have been something.
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It’s easily better value for the money. When you take into account all the features it has. When you take out software support and ecosystem integration, there are lots of features the max simply doesn’t have that the note 9 has. I mean you can turn your note 9 into a desktop computer. That alone justifies the price tag imo.
Also who is really keeping their phone for 5 years? Not me. It’s great that Apple update their phones for so long but I wouldn’t keep a phone for longer than 2 years.
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I must say I am very impressed with Apple's A12 Bionic chip. It literally thrashes the competition to shreds, such as the SnapDragon 845 chip, in a humiliating way. In YouTube and enthusianst benchark sites, the A12 Bionic loads apps faster than any competeing chips in THE WORLD and has much better single and multi core and milticore syntentic benchamrk results. Cudos to Apple for designing such a marvel.
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With planned obsolessence and the potential damage incurred to your device due to dropping, or unintentioned negelct, I have no idea how most people can keep a phone for more than 2 years, without unintentional damage. We abuse the frick out of the machines. They, for most purposes are only designed to last two years, the span of a subsidised contract at best. What, lock it in an Otter Box twice the thickness?
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With planned obsolessence and the potential damage incurred to your device due to dropping, or unintentioned negelct, I have no idea how most people can keep a phone for more than 2 years, without unintentional damage. We abuse the frick out of the machines. They, for most purposes are only designed to last two years, the span of a subsidised contract at best. What, lock it in an Otter Box twice the thickness?
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Price has changed my buying habits and for most people I know.
I think the high prices of the last two releases have just hit the mindset of consumers and people don’t bother looking at new phones if their current ones are working well. This has an affect across the range and even devices like the XR get affected.
It would be good to see a poorer year for Apple and maybe they’ll see that people are interested in their phones but just not at extortionate prices.
I think the high prices of the last two releases have just hit the mindset of consumers and people don’t bother looking at new phones if their current ones are working well. This has an affect across the range and even devices like the XR get affected.
It would be good to see a poorer year for Apple and maybe they’ll see that people are interested in their phones but just not at extortionate prices.
Pricing is going to be what makes or brakes Apple for me going forward. I have the max which I could keep for 2 years. However I don’t want to be paying £1,250 for a phone. Which will probably cost even more in two years. It’s not because I can’t afford it it’s because I don’t think a phone should cost that much.
It’s the same with the iPad Pro. I have the 10.5 inch iPad Pro which I’m happy to keep for a few years. However when the time comes to upgrade do I want to be paying £1,200 for a tablet and a pencil and a keyboard? No. Apple have the budget iPad but I don’t like the fact that it’s non laminated, has a lower resolution screen, only goes up to 128GB, only has 2 speakers. There are other tablets out there like the Tab S4 which are reasonably priced in between the budget iPad and iPad Pro and come with excellent hardware. The only issue I have is that it runs android and doesn’t get supported for long. However I use my iPad purely for consumption, watching videos and web browsing so I think I could managed the tab S4 because I’m not using many apps on my iPad Pro.
I’m having the same issues across the whole product line up. When my MBA needs to be replaced I don’t want to be paying £1,200 + for a new MacBook because I never use my MBA. I don’t like windows so I can’t go that route but I can get a high end chromebook which will meet my meagre computing needs.
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