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What does going cocoa (or 64-bit for that matter) have to do with going Snow Leopard only? Haven't you noticed most of your Tiger and Panther apps are cocoa too? :) Apple still sells (or gives away) lots of cocoa apps that run on Tiger.

I know quite a few apps are Cocoa & don't need Snow Leopard, but I could see iTunes benefitting from OpenCL & Grand Central, which are Open CL

Besides, this would be dumb, because new iPods will probably need the new iTunes, and that means they can no longer sell these iPods to Tiger and Leopard users. Not going to happen!

As I said in my previous post, making it SNow Leopard only could be a business move, making people upgrade to Snow Leopard if they want the new stuff. You remember all the people complaining about Snow Leopard not running on 3 year old PPC computers? From a business standpoint, it could be a good move: not only will people buy new iPods, but they would also buy new computers, meaning more $$$ for Apple. Note: just because I say that, doesn't mean I like it much less condone it.
 
Mr. Jobs is obviously gonna be there.

We're not going to be able to see him though as he will be doing behind the scenes work at the Keynote.
 
It may very well be true, but how does Yoko have insight about the Beatles catalog availability on itunes? She doesn't own any of it, does she?
 
Not really, Yoko already confirmed The Beatles on iTunes!

SHOOOOOOO

Steve's defiantly not going to miss this big announcement!

Now Steve's going to yank the Beatles at the last minute and replace it with nvidia (I mean the Stones.) :)
 
Someone, please enlighten me!

I don't quite get the fascination with having the Beatles on iTunes. I am a big fan of them and got most of my Beatles already on my iTunes from other sources like CDs. Why is it so important to have them on iTunes?

I think comes out of an adoration Steve Jobs have with them more than anything else.
 
I know quite a few apps are Cocoa & don't need Snow Leopard, but I could see iTunes benefitting from OpenCL & Grand Central, which are Open CL



As I said in my previous post, making it SNow Leopard only could be a business move, making people upgrade to Snow Leopard if they want the new stuff. You remember all the people complaining about Snow Leopard not running on 3 year old PPC computers? From a business standpoint, it could be a good move: not only will people buy new iPods, but they would also buy new computers, meaning more $$$ for Apple. Note: just because I say that, doesn't mean I like it much less condone it.

I guess this is always possible, but it would be a drastic change from past behaviour. You've always been able to buy new iPods to work with fairly old computers. Like I said, you could still get the latest iTunes (and iPods) for Panther until last year, and on windows, you could do the same with Windows 2000 until two years ago.

Making a new version of iTunes for Snow Leopard only would be the same as making the windows version for Windows 7 only. It would be complete and utter folly. Sure, they want people to upgrade their macs, but nothing is forcing them. Some people don't mind running old software. They'll upgrade eventually but aren't in a hurry. But these people still buy new iPods. Why would you preclude yourself from selling to them?
 
I used to get really excited on iPod announcement days primarily waiting for an increase in iPod capacity. These days, I just hope there is a no DECREASE in the current maximum 120 GB capacity of the Classic. I still have my 160 GB Classic and will never buy any new iPod unless it exceeds or at least matches that capacity. I would really rather not have to downgrade capacity for something like a camera I don't need. I'd love a touch widescreen, but there's no way I can go from 160 GB to 64 GB. It's almost degrading. :)

Tony
 
There seems to be a lot of people not understanding what the big deal about the Beatles on iTunes is about. Let me attempt to help you understand.

The Beatles are one of the few groups that cross generations with amazing success. While the older generations may already have every album and possibly every cd, the younger generations have few cds and get all of their music in mp3 form.
Let's consider a 15 year old that grew up listening to the Beatles on the radio in their parents car. Most teenagers today have iPods, not cd players. That 15 year old doesn't even have their own car stereo to play cds in. That 15 year old likely has a computer but uses iTunes to play their mp3 collection. That 15 year old may also only like certain songs and can afford a handful of their favorite songs but can't afford to go into a store (or onto Amazon) and buy all of the cds to get those songs.

Add in the fact that most young people get giftcards for iTunes as presents and not giftcards for music stores any longer. Plus the time required to rip all of the cds into your computer (a full length disc takes 3-5 minutes on my computer times 13 albums = about an hour of wasted time, maybe not a lot to you, but it's a lot to me and most people I know!)...it's a whole lot easier to pull up iTunes and hit "buy." Plus, the way we listen to music has changed. Most younger people do not listen to an album straight through...you listen to mixes or an artist on shuffle. You can't do that with cds!

Even for myself and my friends (late 20's)...we're all Beatles fans but none of us own all of the cds. Personally, I stopped purchasing cds (with the exception of my favorite artists that I collect their material) because it was such a waste. All I was doing was buying the cd, bringing it home to burn, and then the cd sat there, never being used again. I use iTunes on my computer, have my iPod wired into my car stereo, and have my iPhone with me for any other times I want to listen to music.
My PC using, non-iPod owning roommate put it perfectly the other day when she said that if Apple came out with a Beatles iPod preloaded with their music, she would run down to the nearest Apple store and wouldn't care if it costs $700...she'd be first in line to buy one.
 
There seems to be a lot of people not understanding what the big deal about the Beatles on iTunes is about. Let me attempt to help you understand.

The Beatles are one of the few groups that cross generations with amazing success. While the older generations may already have every album and possibly every cd, the younger generations have few cds and get all of their music in mp3 form.
Let's consider a 15 year old that grew up listening to the Beatles on the radio in their parents car. Most teenagers today have iPods, not cd players. That 15 year old doesn't even have their own car stereo to play cds in. That 15 year old likely has a computer but uses iTunes to play their mp3 collection. That 15 year old may also only like certain songs and can afford a handful of their favorite songs but can't afford to go into a store (or onto Amazon) and buy all of the cds to get those songs.

Add in the fact that most young people get giftcards for iTunes as presents and not giftcards for music stores any longer. Plus the time required to rip all of the cds into your computer (a full length disc takes 3-5 minutes on my computer times 13 albums = about an hour of wasted time, maybe not a lot to you, but it's a lot to me and most people I know!)...it's a whole lot easier to pull up iTunes and hit "buy." Plus, the way we listen to music has changed. Most younger people do not listen to an album straight through...you listen to mixes or an artist on shuffle. You can't do that with cds!

Even for myself and my friends (late 20's)...we're all Beatles fans but none of us own all of the cds. Personally, I stopped purchasing cds (with the exception of my favorite artists that I collect their material) because it was such a waste. All I was doing was buying the cd, bringing it home to burn, and then the cd sat there, never being used again. I use iTunes on my computer, have my iPod wired into my car stereo, and have my iPhone with me for any other times I want to listen to music.
My PC using, non-iPod owning roommate put it perfectly the other day when she said that if Apple came out with a Beatles iPod preloaded with their music, she would run down to the nearest Apple store and wouldn't care if it costs $700...she'd be first in line to buy one.

The only flaw in this argument is that most 15 year olds are likely using bittorrent or rapidshare instead. :)
 
it is her

twitter. Apple Records or Apple Inc. is a partnership of Yoko Ono, Olivia Harrison, Paul and Ringo, so she most certainly does have a say, and would know. It is what they call a reverse democracy, so if any one of them does not like a release or project, it is shut down. Paul himself recently said it was onyl EMI holding up the release, and their copyright on early beatles recordings runs out in 2013. Sky News posted the headline (Yoko, Itunes, etc.) but has not posted accompanying article to confirm yet. beatlesnews.com will have more details when available.
 
There seems to be a lot of people not understanding what the big deal about the Beatles on iTunes is about. Let me attempt to help you understand.

The Beatles are one of the few groups that cross generations with amazing success. While the older generations may already have every album and possibly every cd, the younger generations have few cds and get all of their music in mp3 form.
Let's consider a 15 year old that grew up listening to the Beatles on the radio in their parents car. Most teenagers today have iPods, not cd players. That 15 year old doesn't even have their own car stereo to play cds in. That 15 year old likely has a computer but uses iTunes to play their mp3 collection. That 15 year old may also only like certain songs and can afford a handful of their favorite songs but can't afford to go into a store (or onto Amazon) and buy all of the cds to get those songs.

Add in the fact that most young people get giftcards for iTunes as presents and not giftcards for music stores any longer. Plus the time required to rip all of the cds into your computer (a full length disc takes 3-5 minutes on my computer times 13 albums = about an hour of wasted time, maybe not a lot to you, but it's a lot to me and most people I know!)...it's a whole lot easier to pull up iTunes and hit "buy." Plus, the way we listen to music has changed. Most younger people do not listen to an album straight through...you listen to mixes or an artist on shuffle. You can't do that with cds!

Even for myself and my friends (late 20's)...we're all Beatles fans but none of us own all of the cds. Personally, I stopped purchasing cds (with the exception of my favorite artists that I collect their material) because it was such a waste. All I was doing was buying the cd, bringing it home to burn, and then the cd sat there, never being used again. I use iTunes on my computer, have my iPod wired into my car stereo, and have my iPhone with me for any other times I want to listen to music.
My PC using, non-iPod owning roommate put it perfectly the other day when she said that if Apple came out with a Beatles iPod preloaded with their music, she would run down to the nearest Apple store and wouldn't care if it costs $700...she'd be first in line to buy one.

I agree but your friend should buy the Beatles remastered box that comes out tomorrow then she can have the best possible quality, cool packaging and load them on her mac and into an ipod and still have money for beer.
 
twitter. Apple Records or Apple Inc. is a partnership of Yoko Ono, Olivia Harrison, Paul and Ringo, so she most certainly does have a say, and would know. It is what they call a reverse democracy, so if any one of them does not like a release or project, it is shut down. Paul himself recently said it was onyl EMI holding up the release, and their copyright on early beatles recordings runs out in 2013. Sky News posted the headline (Yoko, Itunes, etc.) but has not posted accompanying article to confirm yet. beatlesnews.com will have more details when available.

You mean Apple Corp. right? Apple,Inc. is the former Apple Computer company.
 
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