none. it's end-to-end encrypted. (google can't read your texts)
it is. if you spent two minutes reading, you'd know that.
...they can't. iMessage is apple's proprietary software.
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'It's Time for Apple to Fix Texting' Says New Android Website Pushing RCS Messaging Technology
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I still see iPhones with iMessage switched off so they can make sure the messages go to everyone (ie forcing SMS). Apple could make this better, they just chose not to.
Implementing RCS would have zero impact on the security of iMessage. It shows just how misunderstood this all is.
As others have pointed out iMessage already does SMS/MMS. Also doing RCS is just a choice. Could be a different colour altogether for all I care.
Implementing RCS would have zero impact on the security of iMessage. It shows just how misunderstood this all is.
As others have pointed out iMessage already does SMS/MMS. Also doing RCS is just a choice. Could be a different colour altogether for all I care.
I am not playing semantics. Selling user data has a specific meaning. There are businesses aka data brokers whose main purpose is literally selling your data. Neither Apple nor Google are data brokers. That is not their business model as far as publicly known and disclosed by either company.
I have established that
That is not selling your information. That is ad targeting and literally everyone does that. This website does it too like I showed you.
Don't explain what ad targeting is to me. That has nothing to do with data selling just because ad targeting is so good that you can feel like they know you personally which they sort of do. At no point does your personal data leaves Apple or Google to be sold to a 3rd party.
Here is a list of data brokers that literally sell your data, from your email address, mailing address, phone, social media information etc. Neither Apple nor Google are data brokers.
Data Brokers | Privacy Rights Clearinghouse
I’m an apple user that has an issue that Apple choose to force me to SMS / MMS when I talk to my friends that have made a different choice to me on their phone purchase when there’s a better alternative.
I love Apple but I don’t expect everyone to and I want the best experience possible without having to use Facebook products.
I do use Signal too
End to end encryption relates to transmission and has no bearing on what's occurring to that same data while at-rest on your device...
I am not playing semantics. Selling user data has a specific meaning. There are businesses aka data brokers whose main purpose is literally selling your data. Neither Apple nor Google are data brokers. That is not their business model as far as publicly known and disclosed by either company.
I have established that
That is not selling your information. That is ad targeting and literally everyone does that. This website does it too like I showed you.
Don't explain what ad targeting is to me. That has nothing to do with data selling just because ad targeting is so good that you can feel like they know you personally which they sort of do. At no point does your personal data leaves Apple or Google to be sold to a 3rd party.
Here is a list of data brokers that literally sell your data, from your email address, mailing address, phone, social media information etc. Neither Apple nor Google are data brokers.
Data Brokers | Privacy Rights Clearinghouse
privacyrights.org
They are selling your data. If I searched (sorry, I was walking around a show this past weekend) "Chaparral 347 SSX" they're going to take that data, specifically, and say I like boats and sell my data as a part of a group of people interested in boats, and I'll start seeing ads for other boats and boat related products. You are playing semantics. It's my data that led to me seeing that ad. It's the most basic building block of what they're selling - ads - hence, they're selling my data. Semantics.
Even if you're cool enough not to have a single Android contact, anyone with an Android phone can text you. Would you rather the message be encrypted or unencrypted?
Most of the Android phones are already sending each other encrypted messages. Your phone is forcing them to fall back to unencrypted.
Ironically, a single iPhone user can now ruin an RCS thread. How bout that.
Are you kidding me? News flash: SMS isn't encrypted end to end. Try another apology for the walled garden approach.
See it's people like you is why it's popular to bully Apple fans. Fighting an imaginary phone war all because of messaging.
You must be kidding him.
Walled garden? News flash: The current deployment of RCS is a walled garden approach, controlled exclusively by Google. This follows an environment of many walled gardens that couldn't interoperate, something like 81 out of 850 carriers worldwide with their own walled gardens, or some ridiculous poor adoption rate -- it was barely 8% adoption, let's just stick with that number instead.
And if they did, they'd have that legislation struck down almost instantly, since RCS is owned and controlled by Google - they'd be picking a winner in the market, and creating a both a monopoly AND a gatekeeper in one fell swoop.
You are the one playing semantics. I am being literal. Going by your definition, Apple is selling your data, MacRumors is selling your data.
Again, let's use this website you are on
You don't seem to be worried about being on this website, are you?
But that's not the only option they have though. There has already been talk about the EU forcing iMessage to be cross-compatible with things like WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger.
Bottom line, Alphabet is unhappy Apple does not bail them out of a problem with their software.
In other words, it’s the worst of all possible worlds? It’s kinda OOT but only if you’re talking to other Google Messenger users? Meanwhile SMS/MMS group chat works well enough for me that I don’t generally notice stuff breaking, and RCS wouldn’t give me the features of an OOT system I actually want unless I use a Google app? I’d rather just use Facebook Messenger for the groups I use it for, I’m not sure which company I trust less. (But I generally do trust Facebook to keep even bad ideas around, I don’t necessarily trust Google not to launch yet another incompatible messaging app!)
Which... would negate the IP and reasons these things exist. Think Enterprise, not Retail. These businesses exist and are able to offer *free* access to retail users because of their exclusivity and enterprise contracts for telephony/conferencing. It's just non-tenable. Nobody is making these platforms as a charity, not a one of them.
I remember when it was even $.15 a text! Lol it was insane.
Bell got owned, Cingular wireless showed up then a decade later AT&T scoops it up again lol. The cycle never ends but let’s not help them out with RCS support please 😂
It’s less “selling your data” and more “leasing out your data” or “demographic data as a service (DDaaS)” if you want to be buzzword compliant. The advertiser doesn’t get your email for their mailing list, no, which is why Facebook can claim not to sell your data. It generally doesn’t leave their servers unless some company is exploiting an API bug. But they certainly do rent access to you by way of demographic targeting. The advertiser doesn’t really know anything about you, but Google/Facebook know everything. (And despite that, I got a Facebook ad in Thai today, which I absolutely cannot read. Sometimes I wonder if Facebook is screwing over the advertisers just as much as they screw us over! I mean, my ad view of that Thai ad cost the advertiser money despite the fact that I’m not gonna click and buy their product or service, and Facebook certainly has enough demographic info about me to only show me English language ads.)