I do? Like who? I don't use Apple's app for anything really. It's all done over other tools already.
You do realize I don't give a ****, right? You do realize I'm not advocating that Apple not do something, right?
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'It's Time for Apple to Fix Texting' Says New Android Website Pushing RCS Messaging Technology
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Two groups speaking different languages?
Isn't that where Google Translate could come in handy?
Isn't that where Google Translate could come in handy?
Except that it’s not. If Apple were to implement standard RCS in iMessages, there still wouldn’t be end to end encryption, for instance, as that’s only available as part of the special sauce Google puts on top of RCS when you use Google Messages, it’s not baked into the RCS protocol. Most of iMessage’s functionality (or of Facebook Messenger’s equivalent functionality) wouldn’t be available, either. Google has completely oversold what RCS is, it’s basically an extension to MMS with longer messages and better support for group chat. And Apple already attempts to abstract away those aspects of SMS/MMS, you can send long messages but they’re split into multiple SMS packets on the backend and displayed as one message on the frontend, and you can kinda do group SMS, it just sometimes is fragile. Well, it also allows for read receipts and typing indicators, as well.
Standardized RCS doesn’t actually support most of the modern chat effects iMessage, Facebook, etc. have had for years. In-line replies, text backgrounds, reactions, RCS has no ability to do any of that. So RCS basically is green chat bubbles with read receipts and typing indicator. And that’s because it’s a standard that dates back to 2008.
Google Messenger is not RCS. Google Messenger is a layer on top of RCS that adds modern chat features. But that only works if both RCS gateways support those features, and those features are proprietary to Google Messenger. You have to go through Google’s RCS gateway to get them, and Google isn’t going to let Apple go through their gateway (and nor would Apple want to). Google doesn’t publish intercompatibility documents for other RCS providers, to the best of my knowledge. So while Apple may be doing messaging lock-in with iMessage, Google is doing lock-in on top of what’s supposedly an open standard (good old embrace, extend, extinguish) but claiming that their proprietary implementation is still the open standard.
Has anybody wondered what carriers get out of this? I have been in GSMA meetings laying this out and I’m socked how naive some people are about RCS. Apple is ignoring it for good reasons.
Well.... except for the part where they want to troll through all the photos on your iCloud....
Sure, Apple respects your privacy lol. Just goes to show, if you repeat something over and over again, people will start to believe it.
Could you explain these reasons?
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If there is one thing Apple has been really good at, it is adopting industry standards....
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...after trying everything else, first.
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...after trying everything else, first.
This. The ultimate goal of RCS is not to give the end users good service, the goal is to give get control of messaging back in the hands of the wireless carriers. It’s a power grab. Google is promoting it with disingenuous ads and such because it hurts Apple.
I’m not going to defend Apple as the “good guy”, but Google time and time again has left iOS customers high and dry withholding features, or putting them behind a paywall barrier. The only reason all of Googles apps and services aren’t Android exclusive is because data collecting/advertising on iOS is very lucrative for them. That’s why they pay Apple to keep them as the default search provider. So demonizing Apple, because they feel their service is being excluded from the party is bs.
Knowing Google’s track record, it will probably be a matter of time before they themselves drop support for RCS. Leaving Apple to hold the bag by themselves. 🙃
Classy response. You must be a joy to hang around with. (And for the record I'm the one with the Android...)
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And therefor governments and those who really want to end encryption by 3rd party apps like Telegram, perhaps?
I laugh at the flow of hate articles by the BBC regarding Telegram. They absolutely hate it.
I like my blue bubbles just fine, just taking time to convert everyone over to my fav ecosystem.
From a UK perspective this all seems rather bizarre because literally every single person, whether Apple or Android, switched to WhatsApp years ago. Nobody uses iMessage, and the only time I ever even get an SMS is for automated messages from businesses or one-time security codes.
I wonder why WhatsApp never gained traction in the US?
I wonder why WhatsApp never gained traction in the US?
T minus 15 until someone starts saying “how do carriers benefit from 5G” on this website, apparently.
How does Apple benefit from making their phones faster? Maybe they’re trying to hack the encryption on my brain! 🤯🤯🤯
Agree! And oh hey, iMessage was supposed to be an open platform (and then someone remembered security)
I'm sure they can license iMessage for the right price. Use some of that extra margin Google makes by selling inferior phones.