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If you turn on Wi-Fi Calling, you can send SMS messages over Wi-Fi.I don't know if there are many carriers that don't support it, but I've been using that for years.
I have T-Mobile and SMS does not reliably go over Wi-Fi for me. Wi-Fi calls work great but I have to have cell signal to send and receive SMS, which is a problem because I have poor signal at home. Most people I text have iPhones so it is not an issue most of the time but I have to stand by a window or walk down the street sometimes to send and receive SMS.
 
They have zero interest in giving other platforms their proprietary features.
Wrong. This could kill Android or Google initiative to gain traction in owning a messaging platform for the future. As someone said in a message above... think, trojan horse. ;)
 
Thought experiment: replace "Google" with "Facebook" or "WeChat". Maybe Apple's rejection of RCS is OK for users, especially given the wide availability of text+chat apps that don't rely on SMS/MMS. I also like minimizing how much information my cellular carrier gathers about me.
Agreed. Carriers can tell you how many SMS text you sent and what the text say. Also, you can get a count on your phone bill. When you use iMessage or any other data services, the carriers can't see or gather anything off you. If Apple is refusing to adopt, there must be a good reason.
 
RCS is the solution and Google gonna do it allll in one week.

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This sounds like whining. Why doesn't Google just adopt iMessage instead?
Lol you think apple would allow others to use iMessage? The whole reason there isn't a version on android is because Apple themselves said it is a lock in for the ecosystem. I am sure if apple opened it up, Google would have loved to use it since they wouldn't have had to develop their own messaging app.
 
So Apple needs to make their system-installed apps better, but if they make them too good they get prosecuted. Seems like everyone just wants a piece of success.
Honestly, I think we need to get away from the "apple vs android" bickering and look at the positives. Seeing as carriers refuse to move from SMS, RCS would be a much more secure alternative that literally does 0 to hurt apple and iMessage (and actually would make it better since it would allow for encrypted end-to-end even to those who are on android, which isn't currently the case).

Edit: Good to see the diehards are out in full force with their upset reactions. My bad for suggesting strengthening iMessage lol.
 
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I love how desperate Google is about this. And understandably so given their messaging situation.

Me, too. Trying to push a fake „grassroots“ movement with that new website is hilarious. I don‘t know how many hands you‘d need by now to count the times Google has failed in messaging. Just delicious.

Also, Google is all about making sure „everyone's experience would be better“, is it now? Some of us have been here long enough to remember how Google Maps on iOS slowly, but steadily got worse than Google Maps on Android, such a subtle way of trying to make iPhone users switch … until Apple was fed up with this crap and made their own Maps app.
 
There are of course 2 solutions here

1. Apple adopt industry standards
2. iMessage comes to Android

Both are firmly in Apples court but both rely on Apple making consumer choice easier so they won't.
Remember that one time when Steve Jobs had to bow to Microsoft's bailout of Apple back in 1997 and Steve Jobs said Apple is a company that believes in choice?

No?

Here's a video of it:


"Since we believe in choice, we're gonna be shipping other internet browsers as well..."


LOOOOOOL, Apple's never EVER been about choice. This company has the biggest hard on for restrictions of any tech giant, EVER.
 
Here we go again with the populist RCS hand waving that never actually fleshes out what exactly it would solve and how, my comment from last time is still valid:

Wow is this a real opinion? Yes they won't get the iMessage exclusive features....

But I could send and receive photos and videos without them being turned into pixelated garbage. You can leave a group message. You can have a group message not be completely crippled by a single Android user like it is now...

Once again improves experience but no don't want that.

Cue the I don't communicate with anyone on Android chest pounding.

It doesn't matter how many mind blowing features iMessage has if it can't communicate with non-Apple devices. This just screams go third party.

Right now all my group chats have to be in Signal or Facebook messenger so I can send a picture. That's just fact and that's why I have to use those alternatives. RCS would make all those groups go to native messages with maybe one exception. Why is that a negative?
 
People want everything to go back to carrier-gatekeeping like in the 90s and early 00s?
RCS is at the mercy of the carriers. Meaning, every single carrier worldwide. They can all implement it differently as they see fit based on post-paid or pre-paid plans or not at all.
That's just not a robust solution based on how successful iMessage is. I've used and have Android phones as well, and no, I don't support RCS at all. Google is right, Android users can ask iOS users to check out Signal or WhatsApp if they are willing to, but RCS is not the answer.
 
Wow is this a real opinion? Yes they won't get the iMessage exclusive features....

But I could send and receive photos and videos without them being turned into pixelated garbage. You can leave a group message. You can have a group message not be completely crippled by a single Android user like it is now...

Once again improves experience but no don't want that.

Cue the I don't commuicate with anyone on Android chest pounding.

You're just kicking the can down the road 'cause Apple will always introduce new features (ideally to be used constantly by iMessage users) and group chats will always be disrupted in green vs blue bubbles.

So yes supporting RCS would solve some specific issues in some specific chats but the green vs blue bubble divide isn't going anywhere.

3 years from now we'll be VR-iMessaging or something, RCS won't cover that and green bubbles are never gonna be seamlessly integrated with iMessage, unless we imagine Apple freezing the iMessage feature set (that's stifling innovation).
 
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