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'It's Time for Apple to Fix Texting' Says New Android Website Pushing RCS Messaging Technology
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My mom will be switching to iPhone next month, I can finally text her again!
I’ve never even heard of RCS, but from what I’m reading, it would be cool to see it implemented on iPhone.
I can understand Google’s frustration, but Apple is more likely to create its own privacy focused standard than join Google’s standard … or Apple will just keep on doing its own thing
I want to have a seamless media-rich group chat directly from iMessage to Microsoft Teams, Slack and Facebook Messenger.
Why can't I?
Facebook pretended they were fighting Apple's new ad system because "think of the small businesses", then their revenue got destroyed and their stock price as well.
Google/Android pretends this RCS battle is about the user experience and not about attempting to neuter one of Apple's ecosystem competitive advantage.
Same-same.
I guarantee there are Android users screaming about RCS who don’t even have it turned on.
Read what I wrote again. It's not up to Apple to make it easier for Android users. If your family/friends/coworkers have difficulty viewing your messages then tell them to either get an iPhone or deal with it.
Imagine being lectured by Google on how to do messaging.
I want Apple to support RCS but as usual this is kind of disingenuous of them. Apple didn't "create" all the problems with sms.
I want Apple to support RCS but as usual this is kind of disingenuous of them. Apple didn't "create" all the problems with sms.
I could certainly see the benefit of this for a lot of people.. but I find it hard to care about it myself, I only know one person with an Android and its not someone I care to talk to too often... Then I have a few friends overseas that I keep in touch with but they use whatsapp anyway and doubt that would change.
Not sure if you’re being serious or not.
I avoid iMessage like the plague.
WhatsApp is way better.
Well actually iMessage may be good nowadays, don’t really know, I avoid those peasants.
Maybe Apple needs to stop accepting the billions Google's paying them?Maybe they need to stop paying to be the #1 search engine?
They're all happy on Android though. So why should I suffer as an iPhone user when Apple is more than capable of adding RCS support to Messages? Kinda backwards to make your own platform less appealing and inferior to the competition isn't it?
Then Apple should cut sms support if that's the case.
No it wouldn't. A lot of people switching from Android switch for iMessage. No incentive to switch if Android has it too.Wrong. This could kill Android or Google initiative to gain traction in owning a messaging platform for the future. As someone said in a message above... think, trojan horse.
Who trusts the carriers to actually implement the OPTIONAL security features of RCS?
Google’s business is data, hence why they created and are using their weight to push a protocol that doesn’t interfere with their business model. Yes it’s time for SMS to die, but the answer being pushed by data collectors is…data collection.
It is.
Google adds E2E RCS encryption to Messages, emoji mashup suggests, and more for Android
Assistant will be able to show info from apps in widget form.
www.theverge.com
Apple wants to claim that they are so secure, but when sending messages to RCS users, they forcefully downgrade to SMS which cannot be encrypted.
Apple decided against it.
SMS is a phone standard. RCS is an upgrade to that. iMessage uses SMS only. RCS is a global standard. It's not just Google.
So fighting against this does seem a lot like Apple vs Android, but it's more global than that. SMS is antiquated by far -- biggest reason is that it is unencrypted, no read receipts, small messages, etc.
Rich Communication Services - Wikipedia
SMS is not going away; it still remains as the last fallback for when everything else fails.
Apple Messages app uses SMS as a fallback and for people who do not have iMessage.
RCS requires only data, the message app relies on cell connectivity for SMS fallback just like Apple. A simple read of the last paragraph of this very post will tell you that "As of mid-2021, Google and all major carriers have swapped over to RCS" and not only have they swapped to RCS but they have all agreed to default to Google's implementation. And the beauty of Android is that you can download and install the Google Messages app yourself if it is not default.
RCS is not troublesome to implement. They have all agreed to use Google's implementation. And SMS is the fallback.
Perhaps not so obvious because this is an US and Apple centric site where Apple does have a very large percentage but the practical solution is that everybody just assumes you have WhatsApp and uses it.
Nobody cares about Google's message app flavour of the day and Apple's proprietary software.
And the problem of course is Facebook and that is why I would love that someone forced them to spin off WhatsApp because at this point battling WhatsApp dominance is like trying to catch wind with your hands.
Nobody cares about Google's message app flavour of the day and Apple's proprietary software.
And the problem of course is Facebook and that is why I would love that someone forced them to spin off WhatsApp because at this point battling WhatsApp dominance is like trying to catch wind with your hands.
Yes it is up to Apple. It's conforming to a revised global standard. Apple again is just beating their own drum, and only cares about their own walled garden. They're touting so much that they care about security but completely ignore using secure protocols to send to Android. It's RCS. It's here. Use it.
And frankly the idea of "just get an iphone" is so amazingly awful as a pure technical response as to be laughable.
Not true. Google's RCS is Google's and theirs alone. They took the specs and went over-the-top with it. They have no API access to their servers, so they control all data movement and likely are farming the data at-rest. Until Google opens it up and publishes APIs so a 3rd party can interact with the network, it'll be a no go.
I still don't see how this is relevant. Apple will definitely not "let them walk". It's beneficial to Apple because $$$ and Google because $$$. Why would either side pull out of that for RCS?
Indeed, Google can't "adopt iMessage" because of that.
But I need a piece of history. Wasn't it supposed to be Open Source ? Or was it FaceTime ? I can't remember what Steve Jobs said in his Keynote.
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Right... so it's the multi-platform games that do that. It isn't Sony saying Xbox needs God of War. It isn't Nintendo saying Sony needs to adopt Zelda. You're comparing WhatsApp/Signal in the mobile world, cross-plat games in vids, to exclusives.