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why do you people complain the product is free. if you want more stuff go to the store and buy a copy of a fuller program. im not a database geek or an mp3 guru so i cant comment on official specs but i've never had any problems. i dont think we should complain when apple is providing the best MP3 app for FREE.
 
Re: iTunes encoder

Originally posted by Styvas
I'm not much of an MP3 guru, so I'm interested in more info on the previous comment about poor encoding by iTunes. Speed notwithstanding, I'm mostly interested in sound quality. Is the iTunes encoder deficient in this area, or is it the process that your critical of, not the final result?

Steve
The encoder iTunes uses is the same that SoundJam used to use. It's several years old and was good for its day but is now behind the times. It's very fast, but pretty much anybody will agree that LAME sounds better at the same bitrate.
 
Is iTunes free?

Originally posted by imamacguy17
why do you people complain the product is free. if you want more stuff go to the store and buy a copy of a fuller program. im not a database geek or an mp3 guru so i cant comment on official specs but i've never had any problems. i dont think we should complain when apple is providing the best MP3 app for FREE.

i don't think iTunes is free. i would never have paid 3000$ for my TiBook if it didn't come with OS X--which, i think that OS X includes iTunes, iPhoto, that slew of things-- this is easily arguable, seeing as it's in the box with it.

iTunes isn't free. if they sold you OS X with nothing on it, just an OS with nothing--would you buy it? you can't do that anymore. no one does that, not even free OSes like redhat.

we buy apples. we buy OS X. we can complain.

you can't get itunes 3 without OS X. we have paid for it.
 
Someone said 2^31, but thats only 2 billion songs!! Thats ok i guess. Its only 30 times the total of all the things that have been uttered by man during its existance.

Remixes!!!!!!!!!:D
 
Originally posted by LimeiBook86
who needs 140gb of music anyway, jeez, I have less than 300 megs of music and I have an iPod. Sure I can add more but adding CDs to an iPod takes forever. 10 seconds my ass...

It's only ten seconds if you have it in your computer. Apple doesn't figure in the ages it takes to import the CD.:rolleyes:
 
There are always going to be people who break the curve. The iApps are aimed at the average home user. If we take a poll and see how many people have 32k songs I don't think many people will answer "yes." It's not aimed at DJs or radio stations or companies or audiophiles it's aimed at average home users.

iDVD has limitations and interface issues that I don't like but iDVD isn't geared for pro/prosumer use. It's a "free", consumer app so I'm not pissed when it won't do the non-consumer things I'm asking of it. If your needs go beyond what the iApps can give than pony out some $$$ and buy an app that will do what you need done. iMovie is great for my parents, but it's worthless for me. Does that mean it sux? No, that means I need to buy an app that suits my needs.

Are the iApps perfect? No, but IMO they do a a very good job at what they are designed to do and for the target audience they are aimed at.


Lethal
 
If I have to live with anything less than three or four months between song repeats (listening 24x7) I just go crazy...
But really, perhaps our assumptions are wrong here. Maybe this guy likes sound effects, and carries around 32,000 half-second samples of dogs barking, doors closing, and people belching, all in his original 5gig iPod.


Edit: This post is attempting to be facetious. I have about 1200 songs in my iTunes library. An no, I do not have any sound effects.
 
Originally posted by ozubahn
If I have to live with anything less than three or four months between song repeats (listening 24x7) I just go crazy...
That would be 32k songs right there. How many songs do you have?
 
Originally posted by rjett
I couldn't even imagine having that many mp3s...that's like 2,500 CDs.

Actually, I have well over 3,000 CDs. I can tell you one thing though: it's a drag when you have to move. I stopped buying CDs when the record companies decided to go after Napter, and started calling us "thieves" for downloading MP3s.

--JBytes
 
Originally posted by übergeek
iTunes, iPhoto and iMovie are free...download them at http://www.apple.com/downloads

Okay, so technically they're free but we gotta have OS X to use them Big deal...you can't run any program without an operating system!

true, but iTunes, iMovie, and iPhoto are OS X's marketing pitch. they don't advertize "menu extra enabler," or "meteoroligist." the latest minor updates to photoshop and office v.X are free too. if apple were writing for a different OS, they would never give the i-spiel away for "free." as it is, they know they make money with them, and i think we have a right to critique them :)
 
on my PowerBook i have over 32K songs worth of video game music....
and iTunes didn't like it till i put 1GB of ram...and with 10.2.3 it seemed to let me put unlimited in....so, i havne't foudn the cap yet...maybe it's just an odity with my comp or something....
 
So if you want it to be better, fix it

Why don't you just edit it in Codewarrior?

I agree, there's probably a good reason it's limited to that. I doubt seriously it's arbitrary. I also agree with the post that said, "one might want to obtain a more professional app for a library like that".

I would venture to guess that >1/2 of 1% of ALL iTunes users have that size of a library. You can also create multiple libraries with software availible on versiontracker. - I see this a very "non complaint".

Here's a better statistic than the "7 iPods" analogy - that's the top 1000 songs for the past 32 years! Assuming some years had crappy top 1000 entries (Can anyone say, "I Wanna Sex You Up", by Color Me Badd?) - you'd have a library from the late 40's to 2003!
 
that's the top 100 songs for the past 32 years
Uh. 32 x 100 is not 32000 dude.

And as for iTunes "not being free". Thats a load of bull *****. iTunes is 100% free.

Sure it comes bundled with the OS. But, it is also available for download, for FREE. Think about all the people still using OS9 who want a decent MP3 player. iTunes wasn't bundled with OS9. And as for apple making their money because people buy osx because of all the great software included for free, don't be so sure. It may surprise you to know that there are thousands, if not millions of places on the internet to get copies of every single peice of Apple software, for nothing. One might say, you can get it for *nix. Ha. I love it. Anyways. The point is. iTunes IS a free program. And more importantly. Sure you can complain because Apple's FREE software doesn't support more than 32000 songs, or you could either
a) put up with it
b) wait for a newer version, or
c) do something about it and use a different program.
 
Originally posted by LimeiBook86
who needs 140gb of music anyway, jeez, I have less than 300 megs of music and I have an iPod. Sure I can add more but adding CDs to an iPod takes forever. 10 seconds my ass...

why do you have an ipod with only 300 megs of songs? why?

getg some more music to make your purchase worth while.
 
Until the limit is extended you could use some shareware programs that enable you to have multiple iTunes libraries. There are two one version tracker called iTunes Library Tool and iTunes Library Manager.
 
Originally posted by JBytes


Actually, I have well over 3,000 CDs. I can tell you one thing though: it's a drag when you have to move. I stopped buying CDs when the record companies decided to go after Napter, and started calling us "thieves" for downloading MP3s.

--JBytes


well i recomend adding in your favorite CDs onto your mac right now and then wait for AAC encoding before you compress. Thats what im doing with my music. or if you can wait a few years were going to have TBs out there and there will be no reason to compress your music.

Tyler
 
Originally posted by alex_ant
Apple needs to move the iApps away from whatever kind of slow and limited flat-file database(s) they're using now and towards a real database like MySQL or something.

MySQL is hardly a "real database." Last I heard it didn't even support foreign keys.
 
Can you image the Apple developers. . . .

"Hey bob, how many MP3's should I allow in iTunes?"

"Uhhh I don't know! Make it really big. How bout 32k."

"Who in their right mind would need 32k?!?!"

"I don't know, but when someone hits it, I bet it will make MacRumors.com!"
 
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