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iTunes 32k Limit
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I would gather the great majority of people that have over 1000 CDs worth of music, bought every one of those CDs. It isn't like it is 40,000 bucks worth either, to have 32000 songs... maybe a dollar a song if you figure an average of 15 to 16 cuts a CD for that same number portraits of washington. A lot of CDS have 20 or more songs.
I am one of those that could hit 32000 songs rather easily... I'm at 85 gigs 22000 songs at the moment, halfway through my collection of CDs... I just got tired of ripping them a while back.
But has anyone taken a gander at the KB article on getting over the limit? I'm not sure I can parse those directions.. see if you can figure it out, if you haven't looked at the solution yet...
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61585
Whats happening? Is it merely giving you three different libraries you have to choose among, or a unified searchable database or what?
Yep. Agreed. Is it just me and Billicus, or is this post really confusing?Originally posted by Billicus
That's the most confusing thing I have ever read.
Originally posted by Billicus
That's the most confusing thing I have ever read.
Confusing: Billicus' post, or the AppleCare workaround to 32000 file limit in iTunes?
The AppleCare workaround would be fairly easy to script in AppleScript ... kind of surprised they don't already have a script available to do it. On the other hand, it's still a rather clunky way of handling a library (partitioning it), and I still believe that if you have that many music files that you want ready and available at all times then you should use something besides iTunes to do it. iTunes is obviously not designed with million-song collections in mind!
And a lot of cd's have about 10-11 songs.
Let's assume an average of 16 songs per cd (for the sake of argument) and that the cd as such exists for 20 years (I don't know exactly how long it exists).
Given those figures, you'd need to buy about 100 cd's each year to get a collection of 32000 songs. I'm not saying people don't buy that many, I don't know about that. But I don't buy that many cd's by far.
If you assume an average of about 12 songs per cd (more realistic I think), you'd come out on about 133 cd's each year. That's a lot.
The Apple KB article is the most confusing thing I've ever read. I tend to agree. If you have 32,000 + song collection, then you need to find other means of using the songs. That, however, doesn't mean that Apple shouldn't address this limitation.
Your sake of argument assumption may be closer to reality. Right now my library averages at 15.4 songs per CD
21536 songs ÷ 1397 albums =15.476 per CD comprising 84 gig at 160 kbps. I would have guessed more songs per disc merely because most artists in my collection take advantage of not being limited to 45 minute chunks of tape or vinyl and give an hours worth.
I have at least another wall unit of 500 CDs to add. I may or may not hit that 32000 song wall, but it will make me reconsider how I will build that next partition, I may have to segregate by musical style, which I really do not wish to do. Maybe between the next OS update and the next iTunes update, the file limit can be addressed.
I think of a five gig iPod as 80 CDs worth (thats 12.5 songs per CD if only 1000 songs were being represented on an iPod, but I usually always get 1100 or so on a five gig iPod. For some people that is more than their entire collection and nothing wrong with that. And many people have 200 or less CDs simply because they get rid of the ones they don't have space for. iTunes and iPod beat the heck out of Jewel Cases though.
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Oh and 2000 CDs divided by 20 years is more like 100 a year, if that makes a difference. A 33 CD per year difference is a lot too. I don't think I bought any CDs until 1985. the selection was rather limited.
I could swear that I had more than 32,000, as I'm currently at 31920, and did some housecleaning a week or two ago.
BTW, punk rock albums rountinely have 20+ songs per cd, and indie labels are a lot more liberal about distributing MP3.
I'm going to a record release on Tues, and should have enough new music to break 32k.
I may even try it with some unfiled songs right now.
I'll let you all know...
BTW, punk rock albums rountinely have 20+ songs per cd, and indie labels are a lot more liberal about distributing MP3.
I'm going to a record release on Tues, and should have enough new music to break 32k.
I may even try it with some unfiled songs right now.
I'll let you all know...
iTunes / iChat integration idea.
How about this little cool extra for ichat version 2:
you can automatically stream whatever you are listening to on itunes to whomever you are chatting to. be on the same wavelength. of course it would work best on fast connections, but so would video/audio chat.
How about this little cool extra for ichat version 2:
you can automatically stream whatever you are listening to on itunes to whomever you are chatting to. be on the same wavelength. of course it would work best on fast connections, but so would video/audio chat.
Dude, I thought I was a big man when I had over 600 songs in my library. Now that my manhood's threatened, I'm going to go back to all my cds and encode the songs I really don't like. Point being, there is no possibly way that this person actually enjoys listening to 32000 songs. I agree with whoever said that the guy had 32000 one second clips. His purpose was to find the limit of the number of songs iTunes supports. Not only that but 32000 5 minute songs is around 267 hours or 12 days of music.
32,000: sounds bogus
I just did a little math and I think the person who started this thread with his experience with 32,000 is bogus.
1) 32,000 songs is probably about 3,200 CDs...
2) If a person worked really hard and pushed his mac very hard, he might could rip, let's say, 10 CDs an hour and could devote, let's say, 3 hours each day -- that's only 30 CDs a day.
If kept this pace up, he most likely would burn out a drive or two... but let's say he didn't...
3) 3,200 CDs divided by 30 CDs ripped a day equals roughly 107 DAYS (over 15 weeks)-- just to rip all the music.
I think 30-a-day would rough to keep up with... you would have to be very committed to keep this pace up. I've ripped a couple of dozen CDs several times in the past... it is a pain in the butt to constantly be loading and unloading CDs. I think if I was given the task of 3200 CDs, I could probably do it in a 6 month time period. Maybe.
It's do-able, but I don't buy it.
My 2¢.
I just did a little math and I think the person who started this thread with his experience with 32,000 is bogus.
1) 32,000 songs is probably about 3,200 CDs...
2) If a person worked really hard and pushed his mac very hard, he might could rip, let's say, 10 CDs an hour and could devote, let's say, 3 hours each day -- that's only 30 CDs a day.
If kept this pace up, he most likely would burn out a drive or two... but let's say he didn't...
3) 3,200 CDs divided by 30 CDs ripped a day equals roughly 107 DAYS (over 15 weeks)-- just to rip all the music.
I think 30-a-day would rough to keep up with... you would have to be very committed to keep this pace up. I've ripped a couple of dozen CDs several times in the past... it is a pain in the butt to constantly be loading and unloading CDs. I think if I was given the task of 3200 CDs, I could probably do it in a 6 month time period. Maybe.
It's do-able, but I don't buy it.
My 2¢.
Re: 32,000: sounds bogus
Going in order:
1. More like 2000. Very few CDs have only 10 songs, and many of the CDs I have have 20+. The seem to average about 15. I even have one (Short Music For Short People) which has 101 30 second songs.
2. If that same person went to work with a wallet full of 72 CDs, and worked normally, swapping CDs as iTunes spit them out, the could do about 50 CDs a day without noticing.
3. Based on my estimate of 2000 CDs, that's 40 workdays, or 2 months. Of course, this is only for those starting from scratch...
And of course:
Going in order:
1. More like 2000. Very few CDs have only 10 songs, and many of the CDs I have have 20+. The seem to average about 15. I even have one (Short Music For Short People) which has 101 30 second songs.
2. If that same person went to work with a wallet full of 72 CDs, and worked normally, swapping CDs as iTunes spit them out, the could do about 50 CDs a day without noticing.
3. Based on my estimate of 2000 CDs, that's 40 workdays, or 2 months. Of course, this is only for those starting from scratch...
And of course:
Indeed, it really isn't difficult to amass, own, or rip 2000 CDs. Yes ripping can be time consuming, especially for the ones you have to title yourself (if you have that many, chances are good you will occasionally find one or more no one else has submitted to CDDB), but as has been mentioned, you are doing other things during that rip time... you only have to swap them out every few minutes.
And the thing is, even if you disbelief is based on your owning only 60 CDs, and see no humanly possible way to own more... chances are still excellent you own more than one CD that the people with 2000 plus do not have at all. TCDWIAVBP.
And the thing is, even if you disbelief is based on your owning only 60 CDs, and see no humanly possible way to own more... chances are still excellent you own more than one CD that the people with 2000 plus do not have at all. TCDWIAVBP.
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MUMFORD:
I humbly stand corrected.
BTW... my thoughts were that, although 32,000 was do-able, it wasn't likely. Of course, I see by your screenshot, I was incorrect in my assumption.
FYI, I've got about 33GBs of music & audio mp3s and, up till now, have thought I had a pretty big collection. Boy was I wrong.
115.61GBs of stuff! That's pretty amazing.
You better write back and tell me you have this stuff backed up on another drive. I won't be able to sleep at night knowing that you might lose it all with an ill-fated crash!
Officially taking my 2¢ off the table,
iJim
MUMFORD:
I humbly stand corrected.
BTW... my thoughts were that, although 32,000 was do-able, it wasn't likely. Of course, I see by your screenshot, I was incorrect in my assumption.
FYI, I've got about 33GBs of music & audio mp3s and, up till now, have thought I had a pretty big collection. Boy was I wrong.
115.61GBs of stuff! That's pretty amazing.
You better write back and tell me you have this stuff backed up on another drive. I won't be able to sleep at night knowing that you might lose it all with an ill-fated crash!
Officially taking my 2¢ off the table,
iJim
Wrong Calcs!
32,000 songs X 5 earth minutes = 160,000 earth minutes (2,666 earth Hours)
60 earth minutes x 24 earth hours (1 earth Day) = 1,440 minutes per Earth Day
160,000 / by 1,400 = 111 earth Days of Music (or roughly 3.5 earth months of music!)
But, your point is even more WELL UNDERSTOOD with the correct CALCs: how this guy can enjoy even a small portion of his music is beyond me. Sounds like collecting for the sake of collecting.
iJim
Planet Earth
Your calculations are way off. Unless you live on PLUTO, or something...
32,000 songs X 5 earth minutes = 160,000 earth minutes (2,666 earth Hours)
60 earth minutes x 24 earth hours (1 earth Day) = 1,440 minutes per Earth Day
160,000 / by 1,400 = 111 earth Days of Music (or roughly 3.5 earth months of music!)
But, your point is even more WELL UNDERSTOOD with the correct CALCs: how this guy can enjoy even a small portion of his music is beyond me. Sounds like collecting for the sake of collecting.
iJim
Planet Earth