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iWatch Mass Production Might Start in November

Azzin said:
Grow up.

Like Apple need to mislead investors over a product. :rolleyes:

Did it occur to you that maybe it was on track for a release in 2014 when he spoke about new products in 2014, but due to production/R&D/whatever, it simply became impossible to meet that initial expectation?

Also, you're assuming that "New" products means something they haven't released before (iWatch), as opposed to a "new" iPhone model.
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No need to insult me. I hope the mods are watching.

SEC rules are clear - as a CEO you cannot wilfully issue misleading statements about future performance.

By stating that they would release new products throughout 2014 Cook has created an sense of anticipation amongst investors that they either can't or never intended to meet.

They could have planned to release new products but they've been put back in which Cook should have issued a further statement clarifying the situation. Or better still he should have kept his mouth shut in the first place and not said anything about releasing new products.

Either way IMHO Cook is guilty of misleading investors into believing that Apple had a pipleine of new products coming throughout 2014 rather than all in Q4 as usual.
 
Who thought Apple could do all of these in 2014?

Like I pointed out months ago, how was Apple supposed to launch all of the following in 2014:

Retina Macbook Air
iWatch
4.7 inch iPhone
5.5 inch iPhone

Answer, they can't. I think 2/3 of the Retina Macbook Air, iWatch, and 5.5 inch iPhone should be postponed to 2015 so that there's something new for 2015.

Besides, Apple's stock price isn't doing too bad these days. No reason to panic.
 
If iWatch launches in early 2015, how long are we talking about this? Like 2 years of rumors?
And don't forget the "analysts" that talk about it too.
 
Shaun said:
Somebody from the SEC should look into this as I believe it's a deliberate attempt by Cook to mislead investors and keep the stock price up. I'm fairly sure that's illegal.
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I think you're jumping the gun a bit, there. First of all, if Apple announces a new product + puts it into production in 2014, they'll have met that forecast. Secondly, unless they actually prove that Cook *knew* that Apple *definitely* wouldn't meet that target, I don't see how they could do anything of the sort.
 
Shaun said:
Either way IMHO Cook is guilty of misleading investors into believing that Apple had a pipleine of new products coming throughout 2014 rather than all in Q4 as usual.
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Don't OS X Yosemite and iOS 8 count as new products? I guess, even if they DO, they haven't been released yet.

I'm hoping the September and October events each, on their own, cause as much excitement as WWDC.

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oliversl said:
If iWatch launches in early 2015, how long are we talking about this? Like 2 years of rumors?
And don't forget the "analysts" that talk about it too.
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There's a rumor from the end of 2006 mentioning Apple's phone running a slim-downed version of OS X, which is also going to be used to build another 'new product' - presumably the iPad - and that was more than 4 years before it launch!
 
I told you so!

I repeatedly keep telling you people that there will be no new major hardware this year from Apple and look I AM BEING PROVED RIGHT!!!

I said that Apple have been having too many problems regarding new products not to mention having too many projects to cope with.
This was evident when (so the evidence shows) loads of IOS engineers were pulled to focus on OS X Yosemite

We have been waiting and waiting for ages(years in fact) for the fabled Iwatch to be released and each time we think it is going to happen it gets pushed back

Now we learn from Ming chi Kuo (the only analyst with an impressive track record) that the Iwatch will begin mass production in November meaning a 2014 year launch is not very likely at all

Plus we learn that the Iphone 6 looks set to be launched in October perhaps not September before that it looked like August so that keeps getting pushed back

NOT LOOKING GOOD IS IT
 
So, the more Apple pulls people into more or different projects, coupled with the fact experts leave Apple and some new guy comes in with not as much experience, all come under the same roof, as :-

Apple is on a slippery slope without rope.s

No matter why Apple maps was not as good, and took ages to catch up.

Its easier to just continue on with something that is doing the right thing, than to just trash all the people who know what they're doing, and start over.

You only do that, if you know what your doing and can pick up from the same place.... No wonder Apple had issues. Because maps and other projects went from great work, to crap the next day.
 
I don't recall Apple ever mentioned they are going to release iWatch or anything in new category. They only mentioned they are excited because of new products in pipeline, which's very general statement, and may include software, hardware, iPhone, or even iWatch, but you can't take that as a confirmed statement that Apple is going to release iWatch this year.

Engineers re-shift priorities can be due to anything, it's actually extremely common (I am engineer, too) and does not necessary mean a problem.

I would rather Apple takes their time to make it right. Impatient customers do show the signs that we love Apple products and the anticipation is sometimes hard, but what make the love is the quality that Apple build. So let's give them time to do that.
 
kerrikins said:
I think you're jumping the gun a bit, there. First of all, if Apple announces a new product + puts it into production in 2014, they'll have met that forecast. Secondly, unless they actually prove that Cook *knew* that Apple *definitely* wouldn't meet that target, I don't see how they could do anything of the sort.
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I think you missed my point. Cook specifically said that Apple would release new products "throughout" 2014. That's the key point. He didn't say they would release new products "in" 2014. The statement was clear. He's the CEO he must have known what the product roadmap was for 2014.

Secondly, I simply don't believe that they've missed any targets. I don't believe they ever had any intention of releasing any products throughout 2014. It was just a bluff by Cook to stop investors getting the jitters about Apple's apparent lack of ability to release new products.

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JohnPhamlore said:
Like I pointed out months ago, how was Apple supposed to launch all of the following in 2014:

Retina Macbook Air
iWatch
4.7 inch iPhone
5.5 inch iPhone

Answer, they can't. I think 2/3 of the Retina Macbook Air, iWatch, and 5.5 inch iPhone should be postponed to 2015 so that there's something new for 2015.

Besides, Apple's stock price isn't doing too bad these days. No reason to panic.
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So you're saying the world's most valuable company with literally billions in cash savings doesn't have the ability to release 4 new products in one year?

That's pretty lame don't you think.
 
Shaun said:
I think you missed my point. Cook specifically said that Apple would release new products "throughout" 2014. That's the key point. He didn't say they would release new products "in" 2014. The statement was clear. He's the CEO he must have known what the product roadmap was for 2014.



Secondly, I simply don't believe that they've missed any targets. I don't believe they ever had any intention of releasing any products throughout 2014. It was just a bluff by Cook to stop investors getting the jitters about Apple's apparent lack of ability to release new products.

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So you're saying the world's most valuable company with literally billions in cash savings doesn't have the ability to release 4 new products in one year?



That's pretty lame don't you think.
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Why?
This company is not known for releasing many new products.
If there are problems that need to be worked out, they should hold until the problems are solved.
 
rocknblogger said:
Agreed it was a radical redesign but it wasn't a new categories of product. It was a Mac Pro that's been around quite some time. The fact that it hade a major overhaul does not make it a new category of product
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I'd like to see a cheaper consumer version of the Mac Pro be released. It could fit between the iMac and Mac Mini and be a 'new' Apple desktop. I think it would be a huge seller with the biggest draw being that people can use monitors of their choosing.

It's a no brainer in my book.

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Shaun said:
So you're saying the world's most valuable company with literally billions in cash savings doesn't have the ability to release 4 new products in one year?

That's pretty lame don't you think.
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I like how Apple do things. The worst thing a company can do is release multiple versions of the same product like what Samsung do with their Galaxy smart phones & tablets. It just confuses the consumer and means Samsung have to support dozens of devices sporting the same basic specification.

It's the same with computers, Apple keeps things pretty straight forward compared to every other vendor. The drawback is that there are often long gaps between releases but this isn't really a big deal.

Apple made billions doing it their way. It would be stupid to change things while it's working.
 
Shaun said:
I think you missed my point. Cook specifically said that Apple would release new products "throughout" 2014. That's the key point. He didn't say they would release new products "in" 2014. The statement was clear. He's the CEO he must have known what the product roadmap was for 2014.

Secondly, I simply don't believe that they've missed any targets. I don't believe they ever had any intention of releasing any products throughout 2014. It was just a bluff by Cook to stop investors getting the jitters about Apple's apparent lack of ability to release new products.
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I didn't miss your point at all, it's just that throughout is vague. You're interpreting it to mean "scattered across 2014" whereas from everything else that Cook has said (he's talked about this multiple times, not just the once), I take it to mean "in" 2014.

You can believe what you like, but all I have to do is point to the launch of the white iPhone 4 to show that sometimes Apple does have products that are pushed back. It has nothing to do with how much money they have, either - money can't make processes work faster or be perfected sooner, no matter how much people like to think that that's the case.

I mean, if you're an investor and feel mislead, fair enough, I just think that's being a bit anal about what he's said.
 
captain kaos said:
+1



I already have a nice watch, and i don't need another one.



Looking at the other fitness bands they all do bits and pieces, but none do it well. I want apple to come into this market and kill it, have ios notifications and a decent sleep cycle monitor/vibrate alarm.
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I have a dozen or so nice watches, and will have no problem buying another one, or two or...
 
thekeyring said:
Exactly. The only thing Steve might have done differently is tease new categories. He wouldn't have needed to. He would have convinced us Apple was fine with the Retina MacBook Pro, super thin iMac and all-new Mac Pro.
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True - Steve never "teased" - as a fanboy I like the teases - but they do no good and can only harm if there is a production issue - Tim's been teasing for a while now and not yet released - i feel he let Wall St. lure him into having to justify Apple's silence. He should take his time and let his products speak for themselves when they're ready.

And when i say he hasn't released anything - I mean some new hardware. They have released quite a bit of behind the scenes stuff - iBeacons, carplay are two that come to mind.
 
nando87 said:
Nobody cares about Android Wear, I'm talking about the investment community. This is an absolute necessity from that point of view, it's the only new product line, apple business is selling high profit margin hardware, so they need to probe that they still can create new high profit margin hardware and sell it
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First of all, satisfying mouthbreathing investors that can't look beyond the now is far from a necessity. Secondly, I was talking about investors when I made my point anyway. I understood you, but it's simple fact that investor enthusiasm for wearable devices will decline if Android wear tanks. I'd guess that when someone says Apple has to to something now, they are wrong 99% of the time. I don't think you're part of the 1% that would be right either. There is no need for Apple to release an iWatch this year, from any perspective. Investors will forget by the next earning call anyway.
 
It is a valid question for both long-term investors or a near-term speculators, whether Apple can still innovate in terms of creating new product categories without Steve jobs.
 
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