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iWork '05 Productivity Suite?

sluthy said:
Off topic, what does everyone here reckon is the best WMV/AVI viewer on the Mac? Because WMP for Mac is the bastard son of the Devil
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VLC plays AVI files, and so does Quicktime Player (not sure if you need Quicktime Pro or not, but that's what I have) if you install DivX.

Nothing plays WMV that I know of except the Mac version of WMP, which is a POS. If I really need to see something that's encoded in Windows Media, I'll look at it on my PC-- but I usually don't bother.

~Philly
 
phillymjs said:
VLC plays AVI files, and so does Quicktime Player (not sure if you need Quicktime Pro or not, but that's what I have) if you install DivX.

Nothing plays WMV that I know of except the Mac version of WMP, which is a POS. If I really need to see something that's encoded in Windows Media, I'll look at it on my PC-- but I usually don't bother.

~Philly
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FWIW, I've successfully played WMV files using VLC as well. I don't think I've ever run into anything I can't play using VLC, actually... :cool:
 
CNN's Website

Cnn has an article about some stuff apple might bring out in 05. I love how Apple is getting so much media attention and hype. Good publicity is key marketing strategy. Apples are the the elite computers so getting one for 499 with tons of software and you can just hook it up to your ****** pc monitor sounds great to pc users. honesty it would sell like crazy- i know tons of people who would buy one
 
I can't believe all these MWSF rumors we've been hearing. The headless iMac, iWork, a cheaper (flash) iPod ... it's like everything that was once considered totally out of the question, or everything that was assumed to be coming a while from now, is all of a sudden going to (allegedly) happen.

If we start hearing about a iTablet deal for MWSF, I'm really going to be speechless.
 
Considering Apple and Steve Jobs are so secretive, do you think they are fuming right now? OR is this some elaborate way for them to hype up the masses into a frenzied, rabid devotion?
 
oh dear

i hope they don't directly challenge M$ Office, if M$ pulls out of OSX Apple would be in serious ****, and don't try and tell me otherwise ..
 
~Shard~ said:
FWIW, I've successfully played WMV files using VLC as well. I don't think I've ever run into anything I can't play using VLC, actually... :cool:
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Well, some of the newer WMV files won't play on VLC, and most WMV files don't play as well in VLC. But, for a lot of it, it works great. VLC is the only third party video player that I use...

(It's nice to be able to grab screen images from DVDs using VLC, too.)
 
GFLPraxis said:
I'm going to get a laugh shooting you down.
INCORRECTO! If you'd scrolled up and seen my previous post, you would have known this. But did you? Nope. OpenOffice only runs within X11, VERY slow. There is no Mac-native version, so only UNIX nerds can figure out how to run it.
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Ah, but native operation wasn't the argument. I know that it runs under X11 but my point was that you COULD run the application set, under X11 and through OS X, if you so desired.

GFLPraxis said:
Ha. You have no idea how things work, do you.

Lets say you build your own computer, and buy Windows XP Home for $200 and install it.

Microsoft makes: $200.

Lets say you go to Dell and buy a Dell PC. Dell gets a discount from MS, therefore, MS gets about $100.

Lets say you go to Apple.com and buy a Mac.

Now you buy Virtual PC. $200 for MS.
Now you buy Windows XP Home. $200 for MS.

Microsoft makes: $400.

Furthermore, if you buy Microsoft Office for Mac they make even more.

Therefore, Microsoft makes more money off Mac users.

Ever stopped to think about it? If you buy a Dell PC, Dell makes the money from the PC, and MS makes the money from the OS. But if you buy a Mac and VPC, MS makes the money from the Virtual PC, AND the OS.
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As other people have responded to this before me, they pointed out your flaws. In your original post that I responded to, you said that MS makes more money off of Mac people than their own. Now, for the sake of argument, let's say that EVERY Mac user decides they absolutely HAVE to buy the latest versions of both VPC and MS Office (work with me here ;)). So they all buy the $500 Office 2004 PE. We'll also assume (generously) that Apple has a 5% market share. Now, let's also say that every Windows consumer will buy a version of Windows and Office (for the sake of argument, let's assume a 95% market share). For MS to make more money off of Mac users than Windows users, MS would have to make less than $26.32 on both Windows AND Office from each of their customers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they make a bit more.

For the sake of this argument, I have used the retail pricing as the revenue for MS. If some feel that this skews the results, feel free to respond.
 
ahamilt2 said:
iWorks is one of the worst names that I could think of for a productivity suite. No wonder everyone thinks that Mac OS X is a toy OS. The 'i' prefix might be ok for less professional programs (aka iMovie or iTunes) but when trying to compete with MS Office, it's the wrone way to go.
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People that think OS X is a toy OS should have a closer look!
What is wrong with "iWork" sound good to me :D
 
Blackheart said:
Yeah, who cares about the name? Gimme a cool icon! :D
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Some one just give me osx and ill be dam happy its not a toy os dont see it having horrid pop up ballons for a starters or a start bar thing that is just plain foul
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As for iWork The comical name for a start has already uplifted my spirits ...
 
Sabenth said:
Some one just give me osx and ill be dam happy its not a toy os dont see it having horrid pop up ballons for a starters or a start bar thing that is just plain foul
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As for iWork The comical name for a start has already uplifted my spirits ...
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OS X is not a toy OS at all, works well and is very much more secure than windows. As well Aqua looks a lot better than any other GUI that I have seen :D
 
Blackheart said:
Ah, but native operation wasn't the argument. I know that it runs under X11 but my point was that you COULD run the application set, under X11 and through OS X, if you so desired.



As other people have responded to this before me, they pointed out your flaws. In your original post that I responded to, you said that MS makes more money off of Mac people than their own. Now, for the sake of argument, let's say that EVERY Mac user decides they absolutely HAVE to buy the latest versions of both VPC and MS Office (work with me here ;)). So they all buy the $500 Office 2004 PE. We'll also assume (generously) that Apple has a 5% market share. Now, let's also say that every Windows consumer will buy a version of Windows and Office (for the sake of argument, let's assume a 95% market share). For MS to make more money off of Mac users than Windows users, MS would have to make less than $26.32 on both Windows AND Office from each of their customers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they make a bit more.

For the sake of this argument, I have used the retail pricing as the revenue for MS. If some feel that this skews the results, feel free to respond.
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I am a web designer so I need VPC, but the average user does not. With the coming of a decent Apple word program most mac users will not need MS. While some mac users need VPC, nearly every task can be done on the mac natively.
 
Snowy_River said:
Well, some of the newer WMV files won't play on VLC, and most WMV files don't play as well in VLC. But, for a lot of it, it works great. VLC is the only third party video player that I use...

(It's nice to be able to grab screen images from DVDs using VLC, too.)
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Good to know, thanks. Luckily I haven't run into any of these troublesome files yet. :)
 
phillymjs said:
VLC plays AVI files, and so does Quicktime Player (not sure if you need Quicktime Pro or not, but that's what I have) if you install DivX.

Nothing plays WMV that I know of except the Mac version of WMP, which is a POS. If I really need to see something that's encoded in Windows Media, I'll look at it on my PC-- but I usually don't bother.

~Philly
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VLC is great, it plays some WMVs I think. Another good player is MPlayer. I have yet to find a file that neither of these programs can play.
 
!!!

Waluigi said:
This macworld is becoming more hyped then when the G5 was released at WWDC 03!

The way apple has been chugging along, this could be yet another step in their climb back to the top.
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Would be great if they did!





If this integrates nicely with office, then there's almost no reason to go out and buy that slow bloatware that Microsoft is selling.

Only think that misses is an Excel-equivalent. Many students use Excel, so one would need to be able to make Excel-compatible files..

of course, there's always Open-Office.
 
AHDuke99 said:
oh dear

i hope they don't directly challenge M$ Office, if M$ pulls out of OSX Apple would be in serious ****, and don't try and tell me otherwise ..
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Lots of people will always buy Office,

cause everyone needs Office, right? :rolleyes:
 
This would be good as I just use TextEdit. Microsoft Office is too expensive. Although I like the fact TextEdit can read Word Documents...

It will probably be less than $149. Most likely $99.

I would certainly purchase it...
 
Don't like the name iWorks

I don't really like the name iWorks, and I know its only the name of the suite but Apple can't let AppleWorks die in the state that its in. Claris and AppleWorks were once grate programs and in some ways still are but the AppleWorks of today is so buggy and out of date that its putting the older versions to shame. And I like the sound of AppleWorks 7 better than iWorks :)

Before you all yell at me for saying AppleWorks is buggy you should know my AppleWorks (version 6.2.4) won't even load some days. I have reinstalled it 4 times but still it locks up and won't load. This never happened to me with the older versions.

Oh, and bring back Claris Home Page! :)
 
homepage

iFaulder said:
Oh, and bring back Claris Home Page! :)
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Now there is a good idea...one of the few things I use under OS9 on the old iMac is HomePage, but a new decent HTML editor would be a nice thing to see. I've fiddled with quite a few free/shareware tools, but none were quite as easy to use for me as HomePage.
 
GFLPraxis said:
Try this. Open internet explorer on a Windows PC. Type C:\. Watch what happens.

Or open an explorer window, and type a web page into it. Watch what happens.
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Try this. open firefox and type: file:///c:/ not as pretty but same basic function so I guess firefox is tied to my system and is a huge security risk now?
 
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