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I love that Apple is iterating on software more frequently. Now if only they would do that with core iOS apps too.
 
It doesn't matter how great these apps get because in my world, almost everyone uses Office. I could send a PDF if no one will ever need to edit it, but even then, it's an extra step to convert it to a PDF.

With word I can just send them the .doc file and no one ever has said "I can't open that." I can just imagine what would happen if I sent out a .pages file.

You can edit them on the iCloud website.
 
That isn't necessarily true. For many people, all they use is the basic functions of Word, PowerPoint, or Excel. And although I can' stay I'm a heavy iWork user, from my limited experience, it does just fine for the basics. I fit into the category of I don't use "office" products enough to pay 100 bucks a year, so iWork will do just fine.

Well said. Its the $100/year that kills office for me. I don't think the state of spreadsheeting advances that much each year ;)

I love my office 2010 just fine and am waiting for apple's offering to mature a bit since their rewrite/purge. I see no reason to do the office rental at all.
 
Yes, they will appreciate my sending them a document that requires them to use software that they do not typically use.

That's another issue. I was just pointing out that they would be able to edit them. Collaboratively, even.
 
iWork has a loooonnnnggggg way to go before people can ditch Microsoft Office.

Microsoft Office has a loooooooonnnnnnngggg way to go to get me to leave the free iWork and go back paying for such a bloated application that kills productivity through complexity.

We just hired a new person on our team who had never used a Mac before so they trained on the iCloud version of Pages in the morning and was creating and sharing documents in our office by the next day. When I get a report from her on my iPhone it shares complete fidelity with her Web version and when I make a change on my iPhone it doesn't mess up anything when I check back on my Mac in the office. Complete cross platform compatibility. Neither Microsoft nor Google have got this right yet.

That's worth a whole lot of money to me per year.... a lot more than an Office subscription.

Looks like that code rewrite from the ground up is starting to pay off with much faster and more frequent updates. I like it!
 
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iWork has a loooonnnnggggg way to go before people can ditch Microsoft Office.

I've been playing with Numbers. It is a disaster compared with Office 2011. There is no obvious way to set or change the print area. Editing is almost impossible.

The help offered doesn't.

Clearly, now that iWorks is free, we're getting what we pay for. It's just not up to the quality that we expect from Apple. I've been trying iWork for a long time. I always go back to Office for the Mac.

I've been using Macs and other Apple products for close to 30 years. My software always is current.
 
Numbers is completely useless without a basic pivot table or even a scripting language (Python would be awesome and is already installed in OSX).

I don't know about Pivot Tables, though I suspect MS has that patented. However I can agree with one thing, iWork needs a real scripting language and again Python would be a good choice.
 
iWork has a loooonnnnggggg way to go before people can ditch Microsoft Office.

Not so far as most would think. Quite literally, if it weren't for the Bookmarking feature they removed with in October, I'd be able to ditch Word right now. I don't think Numbers will ever replace Excel though. I'm too much of a power user with that thing. It also doesn't help that my employers are stuck in the Microsoft ecosystem.
 
Final documents always gets sent as pdf here, to me that's like "printing" in the digital world.
 
Well said. Its the $100/year that kills office for me. I don't think the state of spreadsheeting advances that much each year ;)

I love my office 2010 just fine and am waiting for apple's offering to mature a bit since their rewrite/purge. I see no reason to do the office rental at all.
And you shouldn't. It would be foolish to spend money on something that you don't need. I'm puzzled by why so many people feel the need to explain or justify why they AREN'T going to subscribe... some to the point of being angry that Microsoft made Office available for the iPad. :confused:

I'm a fan of Pages '09. Not a fan of the dumbed down new release. At the rate Apple is adding things, it will take another 3-4 years before it reaches functional parity with Pages '09.

I'm looking forward to reading the change log to see what has been added.
 
I don't think Numbers will ever replace Excel though. I'm too much of a power user with that thing. It also doesn't help that my employers are stuck in the Microsoft ecosystem.

Not any time soon, Excel has too many features and power. Even simple spreadsheets, Numbers is not as easy to work with then excel.

The update to iWork is definitely welcome and I look forward to see more improvements but at this point, I've largely moved over to office.
 
I can only speak for me but because software subscription models suck and I liked office.

I agree with you and if I had my druthers, we'd not be dealing with it. Not to make execuses but the industry is moving in that direction and for enterprise computing its always been that way.

For the 99 dollars I feel I'm getting value for my money, such as 45GB of OneDrive cloud storage and the office apps. 4 more people in my household will also get 45GB of storage and MS office installed on their computer. When taken as a whole its a good deal, at least for me. I agree it sucks that its annual payment but upgrades are free.

As for iWork, just because its free doesn't make it better, at least for me. Numbers has worked ok, but lacked a lot of flexibility and power.
 
While MS Office feature parity and compatibility is a tough nut to crack, there is plenty of room for competitors to usurp Microsoft in other areas. For example, how frustrating indentation and layouts can be with Word for a non-expert user. Or the bone-headed handling of opening more esoteric spreadsheet formats in Excel, that a product like Libreoffice handles without sweat.

I look forward to iWork hopefully becoming a reasonably powerful and much more user-friendly product for the majority of us.
 
Microsoft Office has a loooooooonnnnnnngggg way to go to get me to leave the free iWork and go back paying for such a bloated application that kills productivity through complexity.

We just hired a new person on our team who had never used a Mac before so they trained on the iCloud version of Pages in the morning and was creating and sharing documents in our office by the next day. When I get a report from her on my iPhone it shares complete fidelity with her Web version and when I make a change on my iPhone it doesn't mess up anything when I check back on my Mac in the office. Complete cross platform compatibility. Neither Microsoft nor Google have got this right yet.

That's worth a whole lot of money to me per year.... a lot more than an Office subscription.

Looks like that code rewrite from the ground up is starting to pay off with much faster and more frequent updates. I like it!
Google has gotten cross compatibility right actually.

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April Fools probably

How the hell?.....:confused::confused::confused:
 
I don't know about Pivot Tables, though I suspect MS has that patented. However I can agree with one thing, iWork needs a real scripting language and again Python would be a good choice.

Pivot Tables are not in themselves patented, although the name might well be registered. Some ability to slice/dice/aggregate is essential for any spreadsheet IMO.
 
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