I jailbreak and don't have a single pirated app on my iPhone. What I do have is a large number of Cydia apps designed to make my iPhone more useful and more fun to use.
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Jailbreaking = Software Piracy?
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What question are people actually answering in the poll?
Here is the real poll: "People Jailbreak so they can get apps for free" True or False.
The answer is undeniable "True." Why are 75% of the respondents indicating "False"? Are they just making up there own question?
Here is the real poll: "People Jailbreak so they can get apps for free" True or False.
The answer is undeniable "True." Why are 75% of the respondents indicating "False"? Are they just making up there own question?
People also jailbreak for other reasons though, so to be fair it's a poorly worded question that can be interpreted in more than one way.
I personally don't know too much about jailbreaking. But in general, if someone was to get software on any device that lets them steal software that originally costs money, then yeah, it's not exactly legal. However, if they were to put that software on their device that simply allows them to use more apps, outside of the app store, then I don't think it's illegal. It's simple, if you download apps that cost money in the app store, for free with alternate software, then it's like stealing. Just like as if you were to download Photoshop from the pirate bay, it's stealing. But if I were to go online and get some shareware that some programmer made himself and put it up for free, then it's not stealing. Because it's simply allowing me to do more than I originally could.
When I first jailbroke, I did pirate some apps to try them out before deciding on purchasing them. I restored and jailbroke some time later and didn't pirate apps, just too much of a hassle, and didn't want to download non-legit software on my phone out of fear it may make my phone unstable.
I jailbreak to add all the tweaks and utilities that all a lot of people complain about apple not having in their OS. Lockscreen messages, statusbar notifications, customized alerts, etc.. I've been using for years. That is why I jailbreak. There are a TON of other tweaks I jailbreak for, but pirating apps isn't one of them.
Okay, I'll bite. What Apple software are people jailbreaking their phones in order to pirate?
I think you said that backwards, but people are obviously pirating iOS when they jailbreak and modify the OS. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with individual jailbreaking. I'm just amazed that people are deluding themselves into thinking its completely legal. It's kinda like the whole song sharing thing. There are probably instances where jailbreaking might fall under fair use (specifically unlocking and installing otherwise compatible and licensed software), but "tweaking" the OS isn't one of them.
Jailbreaking is not illegal. It voids your warranty, but it's not illegal. And software piracy is broadly defined as the unauthorised copying and distribution of copyrighted software. I don't think modifying it for personal use falls under that category.
The cell carrier deserves the money for the tethering that most jailbreak users steal. Just sayin...
Hopefully you understand - what you're doing is theft. You've tried hard to mask that - but it's still theft. Nothing honest about it.
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Awww, so if everyone else steals, that makes it ok. yeah - tell yourself that. I hope it makes you feel better.
I hope you realize that what you just said is tantamount to buying a car, and because you changed the dome light to a blue LED that you have stolen the car...
I highly doubt people who pirate iOS app actually pays for music.
Useless thread. Nobody is going to admit that they pirate apps because they will get banned.
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Like I said, you read a justification that you like, so you assume it is true. Creating a derivative work is an exclusive right of the copyright holder under copyright law, subject to specific limitations, of course. Piracy is "the unauthorized use of another's production, invention, or conception especially in infringement of a copyright."
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/piracy
Not in any way. Copyright law does not apply to the dome light in a car.
It doesn't. It breaks the terms of the EULA and, as stated, voids the warranty. Technically and legally speaking of course. My local Apple store, for one, doesn't give a rat's ass that my phone is Jailbroken.
On the other hand, taking a non-public beta build of, say, iOS 5 -- which is protected by copyright and an NDA -- and making it available for any Joe Schmoe to download and use is an accurate example of software piracy. And it has nothing to do with jailbreaking!
Yes, sure, great, there are some bad seeds out there that pirate software. I for one am not such a seed (I'm a developer and respect getting paid for development efforts; hell, 7 of my last 8 PayPal transactions were to Cydia). Jailbreaking happens to enable the possibility of software piracy on the iOS device, but it doesn't directly lead to software piracy. To claim otherwise is naive and ignorant and analogous to me claiming "I turned the safety off on this pistol, therefore someone is going to receive a bullet in the face." Indeed, turning off the safety enables me to put a bullet in someone's face -- but I still have to choose to pull the trigger.
Jailbreaking does not make me a pirate. It makes me a potential pirate. If anyone out there believes that I am a pirate simply because the potential is there -- well then f^$k them too.
so essentially what you are suggesting is that by installing, say, BiteSMS, I am pirating iOS?
First, what is your problem? Oh, you're a UNC fan...that explains everything.
Second, have you been living under a rock?
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/feds-ok-iphone-jailbreaking/
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-07-26/news/27070895_1_apple-s-app-store-iphone-users-software
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/26/iphone-jailbreaking-legal_n_659272.html
http://www.suite101.com/content/iphone-jailbreaking-ruled-legal-a266864
http://www.helium.com/items/1904464...-under-dmca-android-apps-now-legal-on-iphones
http://www.pvcmuseum.com/electronics/jailbreaking-ruled-legal.htm
http://www.tequilabomb.com/shotglass/2010/07/26/jailbreaking-ruled-legal-in-the-us/
http://ipodtouchnews.co.uk/jailbreaking-ruled-legal-dcma-amended/
You were saying?
And those are just off the first page of a Google search. Maybe try actually knowing what you're talking about the next time you decide to open your mouth.
BTW, see you December 3rd in Rupp. Good luck!
So it's not true and practically every news agency in the world was wrong when they reported on the ruling that jailbreaking was legal?
Since I specifically mentioned the likelihood that simply installing an otherwise compatible and licensed application would fall under fair use, no, I haven't forgot about that or suggested that installing an application such as BiteSMS results in piracy. Of course, if the OS is modified in any way to provide additional functionality to the applications, you are solidly in a gray area.
Since iOS doesn't provide any mechanism to replace the built in SMS app as the default messaging app, I wouldn't be comfortable with the legality without understanding exactly what changes are made.
I think people jailbreak for a lot of reasons, and to pirate software is just one of them. I read the question as people jailbreak soley to pirate software, so I answered false.