Your entire rational and argument regarding Jailbreaking and its legality is mind boggling. As said above, is every news source wrong?
What are they teaching you guys up in Chapel Hill?
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Jailbreaking = Software Piracy?
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Your entire rational and argument regarding Jailbreaking and its legality is mind boggling. As said above, is every news source wrong?
What are they teaching you guys up in Chapel Hill?
Who would have guessed that a Kentucky fan would be defending cheating. If you read past the headlines, you would understand that what was reported as "Jailbreaking is legal" was actually "Jailbreaking was granted an exception to the DMCA for specific reasons, particularly for the installation of otherwise compatible and licensed applications."
The Library of Congress based this exception on their opinion that those specific circumstances are not a violation of copyright law. Their opinion is not law and their decision does not affect copyright law at all. It only applies to the DMCA.
I completely agree that jailbreaking itself is likely legal. My specific claim was that "people are obviously pirating iOS when they jailbreak and modify the OS." I acknowledged exceptions, but claimed tweaking" the OS isn't one of them.
Like I said, I have no idea whether BiteSMS is legal or not. But what do you base your definitive claim on?
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Lots of grey area indeed, considering that Cydia apps are being built with Apple's own iOS SDKs. I.e. they have access to methods and data that "legit" apps do. The difference is they are installable, as is enabled by Jailbreaking.
Tweaking the OS itself? Grey area. Tweaking the UI, definitely.
Tweaking the OS itself? Grey area. Tweaking the UI, definitely.
These apps are the ones that were addressed by the Library of Congress's exception.
Exactly.
As long as you don't download paid apps without paying for them nothing about jailbreaking is a grey area, it's all legal.
Ha, ha, touche, my friend! I'll tell you what, though...you show me when Cal has cheated (evidence, please, not innuendo), and I'll bow to you.
Maybe you can have Leslie McDonald do the research for you. It seems he's got plenty of time on his hands now, what with a torn ACL and all. And he's gonna be at it for a LONG time, since never...not once...has Cal been implicated in anything.
As I said, we'll see you and Deputy Dog on December 3rd. I wouldn't get too attached to that preseason #1 ranking, either. We plan on taking it away pretty quickly.
7>5
On what do you base this opinion?
Well, I was referring to the violations under Rupp and Sutton, but I'm sure something will eventually stick to Cal. I suppose it's a coincidence that he's been to the Final Four twice before this year and had both trips vacated. And recruited three players in the last four years (Rose, Bledsoe, Kanter) with serious eligibility issues. You can take away any preseason ranking you'd like. We're more concerned with the postseason ranking.
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But by installing even things like themes, BiteSMS (enhanced texting app), SBSettings, LockInfo, etc, how is that piracy? These are unique applications and tweaks, things that Apple does not offer, for free or for pay. I am not taking anything away from Apple nor am I "taking my business elsewhere" to get the same thing. The fact is, they don't offer exactly what I want and therefore I'm getting it somewhere else. Using BiteSMS quick reply is not piracy, using themes is not piracy, SBSettings is in no way piracy. I'm honestly really not sure what you're getting at unless you intend on poking at subtle legal technicalities.
NO!!Pirating is to download paid content for free.I use cydia for making my ipod touch even better.The cydia just make the ios more easier.I spend my money to download apps from the Apple Store but im also buying tweaks.So are you sure that is piracy?
There is nothing subtle about the legal issues. The fact that what you want isn't offered for sale doesn't give you the right to modify someone else's copyrighted work to do what you want. Apple has the exclusive right (subject to specific limitations) to create derivative works from iOS.
Can you avoid insults and have an intelligent conversation? I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Here is a link to the US Copyright Laws and related laws.
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/
Find something that says that you can modify someone's copyrighted software without permission however you want.
I have no problems with individual jailbreaking. I just think people are deluding themselves over the legality of many uses of jailbreaking. And they are giving bad advice to people in these forums. It's just like the whole song sharing issue. Go for it. Just don't pretend that what you are doing is legal.
It's cool man, clearly you are a legal expert. This is said without disrespect. I'll leave you to it. Meanwhile, I will enjoy my jailbreak, guilt-free.
Not a legal expert, but someone who relies on copyright laws to make a living.
Stuff like this sucks:
http://www.appleinsider.com/article..._game_center_support_to_pirated_ios_apps.html
91% of users of the app on Game Center are pirates.
Meanwhile, I will enjoy my jailbreak, guilt-free.
Good for you!
I understand. My apologies for earlier posts.
That's neat though. I don't pirate, I just play Angry Birds.
Not accusing you of this, but some do. Using the said paid apps for theft is still a crime. In other words, if you buy a app that allows you to tether off a carrier without permission is a crime. You may not have stolen an app, but you are stealing a service.
The capacity of iPhone/iPodT allows it to store many apps, some people just doesn't have the luxury to spending hundreds of dollar on apps after paying several hundred for the device. For iPhone users the monthly contract has to be paid which makes it even more likely that people will JB for free apps.
Most people won't admit it but its true, people JB for free apps.
"A penny saved is a penny earned" -BenF
Most people won't admit it but its true, people JB for free apps.
"A penny saved is a penny earned" -BenF
Last I checked, UNC wasn't exactly walking the straight and narrow.
Now there's a good excuse for being a thief.
hint: MOST people know right from wrong and don't steal to pay a monthly contract. Thieves and other criminals are the minority. Everyone does it is a ****** excuse and totally false.
In a conversation between a Kentucky fan and a Carolina fan, you can assume that football isn't one of the topics being discussed.