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I saw a trailer the other day and thought it looked totally lame. Story wise and visually.
Same here, it just looked goofy to me. I'm going to re-watch the trailer, because if this many people are excited about it, they clearly picked up on something that I didn't. Are folks just excited about the visuals, or is there something more interesting about "Avatar" that didn't come through in the trailer?
 
For a start, the visuals are cutting edge, state of the art. James Cameron's technology has reached an important milestone in CGI work; it has jumped over the uncanny valley in human realism. It's very evident in the closeups of the Na'vi characters in the second trailer.

The entire environment of Pandora is created in computer, and James Cameron took huge effort in creating all the flora and fauna of this world, so much that it has it's own encyclopedia. How much of this is hype will be seen, but indications are that's it close to fully realised like the Star Wars universe.

Thirdly, the plot might be familiar (like the plot of his Titanic) but I think we know the central story will be a love story. How well he will pull this off will ultimately determine how successful it will be.

Lastly, it is filmed in 3D using his custom built 3D camera. I think he also pioneered some revolutionary greenscreen technique that allowed his actors to interact in simulated environments in realtime.
 
Thirdly, the plot might be familiar (like the plot of his Titanic) but I think we know the central story will be a love story. How well he will pull this off will ultimately determine how successful it will be.

This is the most important element to me. I don't care how visually stunning this movie will look. I will watch this, but if at the end it's an awful film, that's what I'll most remember.
 
The new Tron looks awesome! I'm excited for this movie as well.

Hell yeah!! I MUST see this movie! I saw the first when I was 7, and if the God's above or powers that be have me on my death bed before then, they'll resurrect me JUST to see this opening day & IronMan 2 May 7th!

(not feeling Don Cheadle as a bad bwoy armie yardie; great actor but the hardest I've ever seen him is in SwordFish and it just doesn't cut it).

This Avatar still looks like a decent movie. Is it just me or does the storyline or the essence of it somehow, with undertones, strikes as a Jim Hensen creation of sorts??!!
 
For a start, the visuals are cutting edge, state of the art. James Cameron's technology has reached an important milestone in CGI work; it has jumped over the uncanny valley in human realism. It's very evident in the closeups of the Na'vi characters in the second trailer.

The entire environment of Pandora is created in computer, and James Cameron took huge effort in creating all the flora and fauna of this world, so much that it has it's own encyclopedia. How much of this is hype will be seen, but indications are that's it close to fully realised like the Star Wars universe.

Thirdly, the plot might be familiar (like the plot of his Titanic) but I think we know the central story will be a love story. How well he will pull this off will ultimately determine how successful it will be.

Lastly, it is filmed in 3D using his custom built 3D camera. I think he also pioneered some revolutionary greenscreen technique that allowed his actors to interact in simulated environments in realtime.

All of it is really interesting and cool, from a technology and eye-candy point of view, but I have the same problem with this movie as I did with the last 3 StarWars movies.

Too much effort going into the visuals, not enough going in to character design and storyline. It seems like it's going to be Fern Gully 2: In Space.

Of course I can't really accurately say if it's going to be a great film or not just from the trailers, but the alien character design just looks goofy so far. Advanced texture mapping and photogenic realism or not, the aliens in the movie look more like they belong in a Hanna Barbera cartoon than a blockbuster movie.

And like I said, same issues with the last 3 StarWars. Unnecessary visual stuff thrown in at the expense of storyline, or the kind of intricate, seamless character and ship design of the first 3 movies.

I'd really like it to be good, but from what I've seen--bleh.
 
On a completely serious note, I feel the need to point out that Avatar is written entirely by James Cameron. The only other movies that he's the sole writing credit for are Titanic and The Abyss, both of which were extremely overwrought and represent his worst offerings. Additionally, the movie just seems like a merger of Halo with World of Warcraft to me.
 
On a completely serious note, I feel the need to point out that Avatar is written entirely by James Cameron. The only other movies that he's the sole writing credit for are Titanic and The Abyss, both of which were extremely overwrought and represent his worst offerings. Additionally, the movie just seems like a merger of Halo with World of Warcraft to me.

Im in.
 
On a completely serious note, I feel the need to point out that Avatar is written entirely by James Cameron. The only other movies that he's the sole writing credit for are Titanic and The Abyss, both of which were extremely overwrought and represent his worst offerings. Additionally, the movie just seems like a merger of Halo with World of Warcraft to me.

the abyss was abysmal...
 
"It's a 3D movie people will look back on in years to come to comment on how it transformed cinema"

That's the bit that gets me. As someone who can't stand 3D cinema - I wear glasses already so putting on an extra layer is just uncomfortable and silly, and it flickers too much which hurts the ol eyes - the gimmick of it subsides so all I'm left with is story. And given the writer, yea :eek:.
Although I didn't think The Abyss was that bad when I watched it as a kid.
 
i'm not into 3D either ... so if the movie isn't as good without it, then the movie sure doesn't deserve the great reviews

so far it looks to me as somebody else said: combine "Dancing with Wolves" story + lots and lots of CGI

also i don't like the character design at all
 
Next for Cameron: Two 'Avatar' Sequels and 'Fantastic Voyage'

If there's one thing guaranteed even before Avatar hits theaters, it's that 20th Century Fox spent a ton of money investing in Cameron's new technology and they're not going to let it go to waste. What that means is there's a very good chance we'll be seeing more Avatar movies (specifically two additional sequels), if only because the legwork is done -- the intricate world of Pandora has now been created -- and so now all Cameron and Co. need to do is focus on the kind of story that might give Avatar a shot at landing high on a list of the greatest trilogies of all time.

Speaking to press in London, Cameron fully admitted that he's already got plans for two more sequels should Fox want to pull the trigger on them (which they should, because I feel audiences will devour this sucker). Says Cameron (on his pitch to the studio): "So in terms of the pitch it was: OK, you've spent a lot of money on the first one; on the second one we'll be able to amortize it and focus on the story and all that ... and they bought that." If there's one piece of Avatar that people will criticize, it will be the somewhat weak, cliched story -- and so knowing that story will be the main focus of any sequels is definitely a good thing.

Aside from Avatar sequels, Cameron will also be producing -- and subsequently applying his new technology -- to a remake of the 1966 sci-fi flick Fantastic Voyage, about a dying scientist whose survival depends heavily upon the five colleagues who are shrunken down and injected into his failing body.
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They seem to think its going to be hit already. I wouldn't count my eggs until they've hatched.
 
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