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Japan Passes Law to Allow Third-Party App Stores on the iPhone
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Nope not going to. Will rag on Apple until they change their policy and allow side-loading world-wide.
WOW! This is just precious!
Don't like the Apple ecosystem, use something else! Vote with your wallet! I've been saying this all along!
If you know the "perceived" limitations of the Apple ecosystem and don't like it, buy something else, you have that choice! If alt-stores are FORCED on us via legislation those of us that find value in the current ecosystem have no other choice.
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This. It should be illegal to lock down hardware, let me put whatever OS I want onto the hardware I purchased.
Precisely my thoughts this is nuts. I like the protection of apples walled garden and of course goverments also want access to our devices that apple does not want to give them nor do I why I am so tired of our governments “protecting us”. But when you look behind this effort you see all of apples competitors who are pushing this access to get into apple and mine our data, not just malware and spammers. Sigh
So what? You can install pirated apps and roms on PC/Mac if that's your thing.
The same way you do when some other software or service has terms that are unacceptable to you: you stop using it.
The same thing you do when a product you like moves to a storefront you don't buy from for whatever reason: you stop buying it.
The same thing you do when your politicians stop representing your beliefs: you stop voting for them.
Perhaps you should a look at a Android-phone. There are a lot of stores. In case of Samsung their store, one for the provider. But everything you need is still in Google's Playstore, except for special apps of Samsung or the provider. That's why the Japanese law not only targets Apple's appstore but Google's as well.
What BS, apple do not have to allow anything.
New legislation in Japan requires Apple to allow third-party app stores and payment providers on the iPhone.
The Japanese parliament has passed the Act on Promotion of Competition for Specified Smartphone Software, a law that compels Apple to allow access to third-party app stores and payment providers on devices that run iOS. The legislation, which was passed by Japan's upper house and will be enforced following Cabinet approval within the next eighteen months, seeks to curb the dominance of major tech firms like Apple in the smartphone market.
The law requires Apple to make several significant changes to its business practices. The company will have to permit third-party app stores on its devices, just like it does in the EU. App developers will be allowed to use third-party payment services. There are also provisions to allow users to change default settings via new choice screens during setup, such as for selecting a default browser.
Apple will be forbidden from giving its own services preferential treatment in search results without a justifiable reason. The law also prohibits the use of data acquired about competing software to benefit its own apps. Additionally, the law requires that third-party developers have access to the same features as Apple's own apps and services, such as NFC for contactless payments.what BS,
Failure to comply with these new regulations could lead to fines amounting to 20 percent of relevant turnover, with the figure increasing to 30 percent for repeat offenses. In a statement to The Verge, Apple said:
The law is expected to be fully implemented by the end of 2025. Epic Games has already announced plans to bring Fortnite and its game store platform to iOS in Japan by late 2025.
Japan's move follows a trend of international legislative efforts aimed at regulating the dominance of major tech companies. The European Union's Digital Markets Act (DMA) and the UK's Digital Markets, Competition and Consumers Bill are similar initiatives designed to foster competition and prevent monopolistic practices. Various antitrust cases in the United States are also targeting similar issues.
Article Link: Japan Passes Law to Allow Third-Party App Stores on the iPhone
This type of legislation isn't about you. This type of legislation is for people and businesses that sell software. Just like you cannot be compelled to sell your goods at any given retailer, app makers should not be compelled to sell their products at any given store. It's that simple.
What would you consider "somewhat reasonable" payment conditions?
and what happens if Apple desided to remove app later on ? you will loose it as well. Only sideloading will provide 100% insurance that nobody can mess with your phone
Please tell this to everyone that buys an Apple device and then complains that the ecosystem has functionality they don't value.
I bought into the "walled garden" or "one stop shop" and if alt-stores are forced on us via legislation we have no other option. Those that want alt-stores have options available to them.
No thanks, I'd go to a flip phone before an Android, I don't want a lot of stores.
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Wouldn't it now just be cheaper and better publicity however apple wants to spin this but to allow it globally vs few areas at this point ? Get ahead of it instead of doing it what seems like slowly everywhere . I wouldn't doubt the United States and so forth would put in legislation like this.
New legislation in Japan requires Apple to allow third-party app stores and payment providers on the iPhone.
The Japanese parliament has passed the Act on Promotion of Competition for Specified Smartphone Software, a law that compels Apple to allow access to third-party app stores and payment providers on devices that run iOS. The legislation, which was passed by Japan's upper house and will be enforced following Cabinet approval within the next eighteen months, seeks to curb the dominance of major tech firms like Apple in the smartphone market.
The law requires Apple to make several significant changes to its business practices. The company will have to permit third-party app stores on its devices, just like it does in the EU. App developers will be allowed to use third-party payment services. There are also provisions to allow users to change default settings via new choice screens during setup, such as for selecting a default browser.
Apple will be forbidden from giving its own services preferential treatment in search results without a justifiable reason. The law also prohibits the use of data acquired about competing software to benefit its own apps. Additionally, the law requires that third-party developers have access to the same features as Apple's own apps and services, such as NFC for contactless payments.
Failure to comply with these new regulations could lead to fines amounting to 20 percent of relevant turnover, with the figure increasing to 30 percent for repeat offenses. In a statement to The Verge, Apple said:
The law is expected to be fully implemented by the end of 2025. Epic Games has already announced plans to bring Fortnite and its game store platform to iOS in Japan by late 2025.
Japan's move follows a trend of international legislative efforts aimed at regulating the dominance of major tech companies. The European Union's Digital Markets Act (DMA) and the UK's Digital Markets, Competition and Consumers Bill are similar initiatives designed to foster competition and prevent monopolistic practices. Various antitrust cases in the United States are also targeting similar issues.
Article Link: Japan Passes Law to Allow Third-Party App Stores on the iPhone
A lot? I literally only use Google play. Nobody is forcing you to use others even on iOS in affected areas. It's called choices.
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I think you're a little paranoid. Look at Android - alternative app stores exist, yet virtually everything of note is distributed via the central marketplace that is Google Play. I honestly think your concern is a non-issue because 9 times out of 10, people will use the default store.
You're worried about Meta or Amazon or whoever exclusively distributing their software via their marketplaces, but this simply has not happened.
Maybe the laws around software needs to change instead of allowing software to be "rented" or "leased" as it kind of does now. You are just buying a license to use it at the developers will, which makes your point relevant. Although hand in hand with that would be the question of if you are entitled to said software is your copy the "CD" you purchased, translated to 2024 the hard drive you downloaded and installed it on? Should the seller be responsible for providing you the ability to redownload and install the product? Should Home Depot be responsible for replacing the shovel you purchased in 2008? I honestly don't know.
On the same topic, the converse can be said about Apple, what if they go out of business and you can't redownload your app? This is an even more difficult topic because you can save PC/Mac software and install it later, but you can't save Apple apps without jailbreaking. With sideloading on Android, for example, you can indeed save apps as apk files. You can get even deeper on the topic of not really owning your own hardware, if Apple goes out of business your iPhone will become a paperweight very soon since you aren't free to install your own OS, can't backup or sideload the apps you purchased, and can't even install Apple's OS but a past version.
Please, do not pretend to know what's needed and what's not in my country better than me. That's not very civil. Precisely ONE bank has the option of a physical device.
At this rate the US will be the only country without a “selection” of options in computing. How sad and how far we’ve fallen.
Bloated how exactly? A third party app store is simply an app you would install and have to open.
Payment systems integrated into an app Apple or third party work the same bloody way - you'd likely just need to store a credit/debit card in it or someone like say Amazon Prime Video could leverage apple pay but skirt a 30% commission paid to Apple.
How does the Mac work with downloads, installs, in app purchases, etc.? Oh wait.... the same way EU and Japan are telling Apple how the iPhone should work.
This is nuttier than fruit cake.
No developer is going to lose revenue by doing this. How many apps in Steam are exclusive to Steam? And in a worse case scenario - if anything like this would even begin to be a possibility - it would force Apple to charge fair commissions. Do you think BestBuy or Target make 30% on software/download cards? Nope - like 10% - and they have to physically stock and manage inventory that brings a labor expense to it that Apple has never had.
If what you’re saying is true then why hasn’t it happened on Android? Android has always allowed third party stores yet all of these apps still exist on the official app store.