I think they’d have to implement dynamic frequencies to not impact battery life. It would be nice, but there isn’t a lot of pressure either, because most users are fine with 60 Hz.
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'Jelly Scrolling' Rumored to Be Reduced on iPad Mini 7 Thanks to Rotated Screen Assembly
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You are very lucky - I couldn’t NOT see it, every single second I owned it (which wasn’t very long)
I’d happily upgrade from my mini 6 just for extra RAM. The frequent reloads are pretty annoying particularly when compared to the M1 iPad Pro 1TB. I just love the size of the mini though.
Honestly why bother with an A chip, just put an M chip in it. An M1 would be superior to the A16, remember the M chips come with 8GB of ram. Even if the M chip (1 or 2) is under clocked it is still superior and most likely cheaper than an A17.
That is definitely not an issue with LCD panel types. You can also easily see it on an iPhone with OLED screen if you put it in landscape orientation and scroll up and down quickly with text. Even on the newest 120 hz screens.
It has to do with the something in the screen refresh hardware, can’t remember exactly what part, but some people on this site can probably tell us. The reason you see it more on an iPad is because you use it more frequently in different orientations and the screen is larger. (I can also see it on my iPad Pro)
It has to do with the something in the screen refresh hardware, can’t remember exactly what part, but some people on this site can probably tell us. The reason you see it more on an iPad is because you use it more frequently in different orientations and the screen is larger. (I can also see it on my iPad Pro)
This will not help 100%, I still notice this on my iPhone 15 Pro Max when scrolling landscape in Safari for example.
The A17 doesn’t seem to be much of a performance boost over the A16 either, especially with the CPU. Playing Death Stranding on an overheating iPhone’s small screen isn’t really the experience most of us are looking for in gaming.
That will be the best upgrade. Maybe they could also upgrade the capacity to 512GB.
Yeah, I got it the day it came out and have never noticed it.
My expectation will be:
- new chip (A16)
- better screen (less jelly scroll effect) still 60hz
- better screen brightness, i hope.
- slimmer bezel
- new starting storage config ( 128gb ) i would assume.
- improved cameras ( still single rear camera config )
- has facetime iD with the front-facing camera orientation will be on the landscape side. (doubt apple will do this)
- WiFi 6/6E
- BT 5.3
-same battery capacity
features that i want to have on the mini but will not be included were:
- A17 pro (for gaming performace)
- 120hz pro motion or similar refresh rate tech
- OLED screen with 60hz refresh rate (though possible, but doubt it.)
- dual rear cameras (wide and ultrawide)
- bigger battery capacity
- USB 3 USB C port
-magsafe charging
accessories that i want:
-keyboard case (not possible for apple to make) though i wish they will make one.
-magsafe accessories
- new chip (A16)
- better screen (less jelly scroll effect) still 60hz
- better screen brightness, i hope.
- slimmer bezel
- new starting storage config ( 128gb ) i would assume.
- improved cameras ( still single rear camera config )
- has facetime iD with the front-facing camera orientation will be on the landscape side. (doubt apple will do this)
- WiFi 6/6E
- BT 5.3
-same battery capacity
features that i want to have on the mini but will not be included were:
- A17 pro (for gaming performace)
- 120hz pro motion or similar refresh rate tech
- OLED screen with 60hz refresh rate (though possible, but doubt it.)
- dual rear cameras (wide and ultrawide)
- bigger battery capacity
- USB 3 USB C port
-magsafe charging
accessories that i want:
-keyboard case (not possible for apple to make) though i wish they will make one.
-magsafe accessories
I never said that people don’t notice it. I notice it all of the time. I’ve noticed it on every iPad I’ve ever owned. I even see it on my MacBook Pro. But it’s just not a real problem. So what if things are a tad slanted when scrolling really fast? I cannot make out anything on the screen anyway while scrolling at that speed.
Sure, an M series chip would be great but I doubt we'll see that happening with the Mini anytime soon since they've only ever used iPhone chips in the iPad Mini before. Given the smaller size of the mini there may be technical reasons behind that (thermal and/or power constraints). If they have to underclock the M chip to make it work the advantages may not may it worth it compared to just using an A series chip.
I’m with you, except that they likely won’t change the form factor, so slimmer bezels and Face ID are out. They’ll save those for an iPad Mini in 2024 (also wishful thinking).
Completely agree with this, for every Mini they have released in Sept/Oct, it has come with the latest A series chip that went in the then released iPhone models (including the A15 with the extra GPU that went into the 13 Pro models). For the Mar Mini releases, those got the previous year A series chips (released 6 months prior). Why would they put a year old chip in it? So it only makes sense that it would get the A17 Pro.
There are a lot of comments about keeping the iPad mini the same price. I understand that expectation, but I think a good bit of mini users and prospective buyers would be willing to pay a little more for ProMotion. I certainly fall into that camp. Those who want the cheapest possible iPad can still purchase an iPad 9 or refurbished model. Maybe keep the mini 6 with lower specs like they keep an older iPhone for those who have a tighter budget.
Most screen technologies update one row at a time in some direction. In the iPhones and almost all the iPads, this is from top to bottom when you hold it in portrait orientation. As a side effect, when you scroll, at any given moment the top part of the screen has scrolled already, but the bottom part hasn’t. This leads to an illusion - almost completely imperceptible - that the screen has stretched or squashed during scrolling.
On the iPad Mini 6, the screen updates left to right in portrait mode, not top to bottom. This means that when you are scrolling, the left side of the screen has scrolled already, but the right side hasn’t. This leads to a much more obvious illusion that the screen has skewed. It’s the same underlying cause but because it’s at right angles to the scrolling rather than parallel with it, it’s more obvious.
You can see this effect on any non-iPad-mini-6 device by turning your device to landscape and scrolling. Conversely, if you hold your iPad mini 6 in landscape, the effect goes away.
Nobody knows why Apple went with this refresh pattern for the iPad Mini 6 screen.
Completely agree. 8.3" iPad Mini Air as has been rumored here, starting $499, and a new 9" iPad Mini Pro with all the extras, OLED Pro Motion, M(maybe previous gen, than latest) processor, FaceID, dual rear camera, MagSafe charging, starting $599. This puts it at the same price as an iPad Air, but you get to choose if you want a 9 or 10.9" screen for that price. Ultra portable, or a less spec'd bigger iPad.
They need to update iPad Pros fast… no jelly scrolling, but the lag is terrible. They are way way beyond requiring an update. Laggy, just so laggy.. and this is in the settings menus.
They need M3 transplant, and fast.
They need M3 transplant, and fast.
An M1 would be slower than an A16 or A17 in the single-core operation that is used most often on an iPad. It would also use more power. Even on the iPad Pros, the M1 chips don’t provide much more functionality. the software just isn’t setup to take advantage of all that an M-series chip brings.