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It is not meant for you. That's as simple as it gets.

You're an end user, not a developer. And if you paid money, you didn't pay money to use the beta operating system, you paid money to become a registered developer and have the ability to submit your apps to the app store. If you paid a company other than Apple to register your UDID, then you have actually paid to be able to test the company you paid's apps.

You install the beta, it doesn't work properly, you are NOT entitled to get hysterical, piss or moan about it as it is unfinished pre-release software. There will be bugs and these bugs and comments should be reported to Apple using the developer site (which you should know, being a developer and all).

Too many end users with no common sense whatsoever using the beta version is giving iOS7 a bad reputation it does not deserve.

Um...can you say irony and satire.:p

I thought that it was obvious enough (actually over the top) not to require smilies to make the irony clear...obviously I was wrong.:(

But thanks for the lecture, anyway!:D
 
I really hope the OS is so late they ship the new iPad and retina mini with iOS6.

I'd assumed the new devices were going to ship with iOS7, and for the first time I wasn't going to do my yearly upgrade. Fingers crossed
 
Um...can you say irony and satire.:p

I thought that it was obvious enough (actually over the top) not to require smilies to make the irony clear...obviously I was wrong.:(

But thanks for the lecture, anyway!:D

I enjoyed it too.

[Parenthetically, if Apple cared that much why wouldn't they implement some type of developer verification process? I don't give a hoot who d/l it. I reserve the right to arbitrarily skip the posts or threads.]
 
Then maybe people should say that to Apple, instead I am hearing things generalizing the WHOLE UI...and ALL the icons...not one lick of praise for the new icons, all I hear is negativity...

That's because ALL of the icons ARE HIDEOUS.

The colour scheme is god awful, and the glyphs on the icons are just as bad.

OK Flatten the UI all you want, but you still need buttons and depth of field (bevels, shadows) for any GUI to actually work and make sense. iOS7 as it stands is a HIG disaster.

Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave, if not trying to dig his way out and make heads roll at Apple HQ.
 
They don't need to change all of them, just some of them. Especially the "settings" icon. I'm always afraid to touch it because it looks like I'm putting my finger into a grinder of some sort.

Yeah, it doesn't even look like settings. Or gears, or whatever it's trying to be. It looks dangerous. Apparently Apple does not research or anything. They just "Do.".

I wonder what Forstall has to say about this.
 
So Apple shouldn't presenting iOS7 for all customers on their page.

www.apple.com/ios/ios7

Its necessary so that consumers who is going to upgrade to iOS 7 is well informed of what is happening in the near future instead of seeing a new software update notification popping out on their phones and totally caught unaware of whats going on afterwards.

Consumers aren't dumb actually. They read news. And the local newspaper here printed news about WWDC.
 
That's because ALL of the icons ARE HIDEOUS.

The colour scheme is god awful, and the glyphs on the icons are just as bad.

OK Flatten the UI all you want, but you still need buttons and depth of field (bevels, shadows) for any GUI to actually work and make sense. iOS7 as it stands is a HIG disaster.

Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave, if not trying to dig his way out and make heads roll at Apple HQ.

Calm down.... jesus man :) Hyperbole much?

1) I like the icons
2) I think the new glyphs are a significant upgrade
3) Retina display really pops with this release
4) major advance in text legibility and in many of the UI widgets. Lots of improvements, hundreds even, that you are all not aware of.
5) Relax. They have only had 7 months to do all of this (it was an unplanned direction made when Ive took the helm). You will see more refinements than typical between each beta release compared to previous versions.
 
That's because ALL of the icons ARE HIDEOUS.

The colour scheme is god awful, and the glyphs on the icons are just as bad.

OK Flatten the UI all you want, but you still need buttons and depth of field (bevels, shadows) for any GUI to actually work and make sense. iOS7 as it stands is a HIG disaster.

Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave, if not trying to dig his way out and make heads roll at Apple HQ.

What will you do when iOS:7 is made public??
 
What will you do when iOS:7 is made public??

Well I hope they see the flawed direction they are taking in regards to design and change course.

If not I'll be praying for a release day jailbreak and some good themes.

I've been an iPhone customer since its release in Canada, and I'm not about to throw money away that I've spent in apples ecosystem.

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Calm down.... jesus man :) Hyperbole much?

1) I like the icons
2) I think the new glyphs are a significant upgrade
3) Retina display really pops with this release
4) major advance in text legibility and in many of the UI widgets. Lots of improvements, hundreds even, that you are all not aware of.
5) Relax. They have only had 7 months to do all of this (it was an unplanned direction made when Ive took the helm). You will see more refinements than typical between each beta release compared to previous versions.

I am calm.

I'm a part-time designer, and I enjoy minimalism, just not the approach they have taken.

I'm the one who ported over the watercolor theme from whistler betas to XP via msstyles, and a windowblinds skin, so I really do appreciate a minimalistic, muted UI.

It's just the pastels, harsh gradients, and overall lack of depth that has me concerned.
 
Anyway, they're not going to be able to fix all of this by the Fall. There's too many problems, too many bugs.
 
Um...can you say irony and satire.:p

I thought that it was obvious enough (actually over the top) not to require smilies to make the irony clear...obviously I was wrong.:(

But thanks for the lecture, anyway!:D

Heh, it did occur to me as I was posting, but I thought in case anyone took it seriously there'd be an answer :D
 
lol anyone who complains that the ios7 beta version 1 is slow loses immediate credibility imo

You do realize he's talking about the animations in iOS 7, right? The opening and closing of folders, opening apps such as Settings, etc. He's talking about the speed with which things open and close, not the speed of the OS itself.

I agree with him on this point. And this is probably something that will be sped up once the official release is out.

Hmmm....why do I get the feeling this person was probably planning to go Android anyway.

This just shows how completely out of touch you are. pod2g is HUGE in the jailbreak community and has been for a long time. For him to say he's seriously considering moving to Android isn't a small thing and it isn't something he'd idly threaten. For anyone who knows what they're talking about, this is a BOMBSHELL of a revelation and could cripple jailbreaks going forward. Sure, there are others that work on jailbreaks, find exploits, etc, but losing pod2g to another platform wouldn't be a small loss in the least.
 
So youre saying those cheap icons, gray dull folders and awful colors will be changed until the official release? Lets hope so. They make my eyes bleed.
 
If anyone is an ACTUAL developer like I am you can SEE how the icons go together by watching the video about UI, and designing apps for iOS 7. It covers the default icons, and you'd be surprised at how it actually fits together. People WILL upgrade to iOS 7, and regardless of the people "boycotting" the adoption rate will still overthrow competition. Stop being butthurt over the icons and go switch to another mobile OS, or better yet a basic phone with ZERO apps or features, maybe that will get you to appreciate what you had with Apple.
 
Remember it's a phone.

Then remember said phone has the best apps going to conduct your first world activities.

Then remember it will be slick and fast, contain new functionality and will no longer be the "Fisher Price" device.

Relax. It will be superb when it's done.
 
You do realize he's talking about the animations in iOS 7, right? The opening and closing of folders, opening apps such as Settings, etc. He's talking about the speed with which things open and close, not the speed of the OS itself.

I agree with him on this point. And this is probably something that will be sped up once the official release is out.



This just shows how completely out of touch you are. pod2g is HUGE in the jailbreak community and has been for a long time. For him to say he's seriously considering moving to Android isn't a small thing and it isn't something he'd idly threaten. For anyone who knows what they're talking about, this is a BOMBSHELL of a revelation and could cripple jailbreaks going forward. Sure, there are others that work on jailbreaks, find exploits, etc, but losing pod2g to another platform wouldn't be a small loss in the least.

Under the assumption that the icons are tweaked. Will people still want to jailbreak? The only thing I'm missing right now is quick reply, and once/if that is implemented, I never have a need to jailbreak again. I know some people jailbreak for quick settings and to "breathe life into the aging os" but that's been done.
 
Under the assumption that the icons are tweaked. Will people still want to jailbreak? The only thing I'm missing right now is quick reply, and once/if that is implemented, I never have a need to jailbreak again. I know some people jailbreak for quick settings and to "breathe life into the aging os" but that's been done.

Quick Reply should be coming, OS X Mavericks got this feature
 
I believe Apple worked on the first version of iPhone software for like 2 years.

From the time they started on iOS, to the time Jobs showed it off publicly, was exactly one year. It would be much less for the basic ideas.

iOS 7 has a completely different UI that was completed in roughly 6 months.

My friend, you're too easily impressed by Apple's feel-good videos.

If Apple had added things like resizable widgets, replaceable keyboards, and user themes... then yes, I'd say that was a big difference.

However, it's still the same basic UI design, only colored differently, and with some minor additional (and non-novel) gesture functionality tacked on.

Even the additions were not rocket science. Heck, Cydia programmers long ago came up with live wallpapers, quick settings, gestures, visual task managers.

Mind you, while I think their color scheme is not well thought out, I do like their gesture additions a lot. Especially the back gesture, something long needed.

Regards.
 
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