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Most people are only familiar with Beats as a headphone brand. And Beats headphones are often regarded as overly priced junk with no value to the consumer other than being attached to its marketing. Many Apple fans do not want to be associated with that.

Beats was valued at about $1 billion in late 2013. It is hard to see how they tripled their worth in the last 8 months or so. I bet stockholders are concerned that Apple is possibly overpaying by an enormous amount.

The Beats streaming service is often touted as the main reason for the acquisition. But it's not like Apple is buying a seasoned, successful company. Beats subscription service is relatively new and has only 200,000 subscribers. One wonders how much Apple paid per subscriber and how much it can expect to get out of that. The idea, of course, will be to grow the service. But that's a multi-billion dollar gamble.

One big problem Apple has is that the music industry doesn't like how much power Apple managed to get over them by becoming the defacto source for buying music and music devices. The industry has been very reluctant to grant Apple rights to stream music for fear of the same thing happening to streaming. Some have theorized that the "real" reason Apple is acquiring Beats is to get Jimmy Iovine's industry connections and/or all of the music streaming rights. But this makes no sense for two main reasons: 1) Beats and Jimmy will just be seen as a front for Apple. 2) Contracts for rights typically end upon acquisition, or if they don't in this case, they'll typically expire yearly anyway.

This is pretty much what I'm thinking, based on what little I know. I don't think my concerns are completely unreasonable. Of course the executives at Apple are much more business savvy than I am, and they have access to information that we don't have. I have also liked their acquisitions in the past, so I trust them somewhat. Nevertheless I remain very skeptical about this one, especially the price paid for it.

Here's the thing. What you just said was well thought out and a valid concern. That's not the norm on here. Most people go with a "this sucks" or "Apple is doomed" type mantra and leave it at that.

I get that it's an eyebrow raiser ($3.2B seems a bit high for me too), but the people who are getting their panties in a wad based solely on the fact that they don't like the Beats brand is a bit much.
 
Hope Dr. Dre lasts!

Hey Dr. Dre let me give you some advice. Don't act like one of your homeboys while you work at Apple. If you do you probably won't last long. You see Apple is very serious about why they are doing. Unless you can add something of value you won't be there long. Anyone remember Scott Forstall?
 
Buying Steve Jobs replacements (in relation to music) will cost Apple $3.2 billion and increase headcount by 2.

Look for Apple to do the same on the movie side soon?

The beginning of the end...

What? Somebody predicting Apple's doom. Wow, I certainly haven't read this in every MR thread ever started. So how long before it's over...One or two months?
 
So Eddie Cue is out of the music liason business? He was projected as the go to guy for all music related stuff?

The beef with this deal with many is Apple being associated with a sub standard product rather than their business acumen/vision/streaming etc...

If the beats partnership works for Apple then its all good. But if Apple is going to take the beats headphones and market it as .... whatever, then, the stuff hits the fan!
 
I hate Hip Hop and "urban" culture (thanks political correctness for saving my ass on that one) in general, but this deal doesn't bother me in the slightest.

You have to hand it to Dr. Dre, he built a great business and a widely recognized brand.

Apple can build on that foundation with their brilliant engineering.

I for my part will relax now and wait how the new products turn out.

Exactly.

People can hate hip hop and it's culture or the quality of Beats all they want, but we have to give due respect and credit Dr. Dre and Iodine's brilliant marketing and using their position to elevate Beats into it's current status.

I will say this again. What is obvious so far if this deal is true ...

Apple will definitely steal a big percentage of that market. Dr. Dre and Iodine endorsements and influence will definitely bring additional billions $ to Apple for the long term. It will be also be new arena(s) for Apple engineering to explore. And there maybe some other big surprises too. And what if Google, Facebook or Samsung beats Apple to this?

Why the supposed gurus and analysts cannot get this? Smh
 
This is a run-on sentence.


Love it when people worry about grammar when someone does not agree with their opinions. I dare you try to make a comment about what I posted rather than worry about grammar but than again I doubt you can also read.
 
Apple should have bought Spotify + Netflix which would have equaled a one media service to rule them all. Anyway, Iovine will be out from Apple under a year if he even makes it there in the first place. IMHO whats the value of Dr. Dre for Apple in the first place. Dre is too concerned about "billions" then actually getting Detox out...
 
The irony of you choosing Bose is not wasted on me. Audiophiles laugh at Bose just like you deride Beats. The unattractive look of the headphones is your opinion, so I can respect the validity in that. Your assertion for others buying Beats only because it's trendy; it's still an opinion, but so much less valid because you have no idea of another person's motivation.

You said Bose:eek:


So basically all you care about is looks and trend over quality, this is really sad I mean really you think Beats headphone actually sounds good while listening to anything?
 
Apple welcome to Popeye's chicken.
Should be quite interesting and quite the Compton ghetto.

Apple should have had a fusion with something a bit more elegant and not so blingy. Welcome to your self made downfall.

Jobs would never have made this move..

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...ies-with-iovine-key-driver-of-beats-deal.html

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Apple should have bought Spotify + Netflix which would have equaled a one media service to rule them all. Anyway, Iovine will be out from Apple under a year if he even makes it there in the first place. IMHO whats the value of Dr. Dre for Apple in the first place. Dre is too concerned about "billions" then actually getting Detox out...

Yeah, why not buy AT&T and/or Verizon and/or Comcast and/or Amazon and/or Sharp and/or Sony too since you are at it!
 
Apple should have bought Spotify + Netflix which would have equaled a one media service to rule them all. Anyway, Iovine will be out from Apple under a year if he even makes it there in the first place. IMHO whats the value of Dr. Dre for Apple in the first place. Dre is too concerned about "billions" then actually getting Detox out...


LOL! If Netflix ever wanted to sell which they did to Blockbuster few years back but to Apple it will be very expensive and as for Spotify they will have to work together but I doubt Spotify at the moment would even consider selling because they are doing okay just like Netflix, both companies are doing perfectly and have no problems at the moment to worry about.
 
Yeah because if their speeches were anything like the gangsta, "sh** yo, billionaire yo" vid that they just came out with last week then there should be lines of people lining up for that. Please..... :rolleyes:

Yea Dre is ghetto but you know what, Jimmy Iovine has produced music for Tom Petty, Stevie Nicks and U2. So all you lily white folk, next time you get scared black dudes from Compton are gonna infiltrate that whitebread haven known as 1 Infinite Loop, just pull out your Tom Petty anthrology and realize Jimmy Iovine got your back :D
 
Most people are only familiar with Beats as a headphone brand. And Beats headphones are often regarded as overly priced junk with no value to the consumer other than being attached to its marketing. Many Apple fans do not want to be associated with that.

Apple is regarded in same manner by many. Doesn't necessarily make those people right, in either case.
 
Hey Dr. Dre let me give you some advice. Don't act like one of your homeboys while you work at Apple. If you do you probably won't last long. You see Apple is very serious about why they are doing. Unless you can add something of value you won't be there long. Anyone remember Scott Forstall?

Next time Ive tries to redesign iOS to look like My Little Pony, Dre's gonna point his Mac-10 laser sight at Ive's forehead until Ive pisses himself and changes his mind

Apple will be better for it. I believe it

I also heard Dre will be replacing Ive's acid tab stash with some bomb sticky icky purple weeeeeeeed. Should be better for the creative process
 
You don't get it? Really? Let me help you out with this people are sick and tired of terrible rap or hip hop music that have come out for the last few years even with the Pop scene. Rap or Hip Hop back in the in day was great because it had poetry and a story todays Rap scene is just about hoes and money not about originality and with Apple attaching themselves with beats a lot of us do not want more mainstream music especially through iTunes Radio which already plagues under some genres like electronic music.

Ok, I'm not personally a rap/hip-hop fan. Mostly too old for a start :) but your comment could (and should) be equally applied to almost any genre of music today. Creativity is now largely left to accountants rather than artists :mad:
 
WHAT IF THE RUMOUR IS FALSE?

This is currently all speculation at the moment.

If Apple buys Beats, I do not think it would make much difference to people buying headphones, which in my opinion, are poor quality, expensive over equalised equipment.

It's about the music service and Iovine, not Young.

Apple needs to close the gap with the other streaming services, something the music industry want - Get the public paying on a regular basis even if they are not listening. If they opened iTunes Radio up to all the markets a lot quicker than they are then the streaming issues will have disappeared.
 
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