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Another Serious issue. If you hold it with your pinkie covering the bottom of the right on the right side you can't hear it well when playing music it reduces sound coverage your pinkie covers that little grill On the bottom. some serious design flaws *also another design flaw if you hold it with your Palm covering the front you can't see anything on the screen serious design flaws here guys serious ever since this was mentioned I started noticing lots of design flaws out there if you cover antennas you do lose reception if someone stand in front of televisions you can't see the television lots design flaws out there and that little black band is huge. So any one left handed would have to cover it.
 
Ok so there is now a competing thread by some idiot with a number of other idiots saying that their phone is perfect. Let's give the idiots the benefit of the doubt:

IF their phone is perfect and not having the issue.... than this thing is hardware based and limited to some phones and we need to beat it down to Apple stores to get a replacement. Right?
The poll on the front page shows roughly 60% with antenna problems / 40% with no problems. Since there are thousands of members who insist they don't have the problem, I guess they're entitled to their own thread... ;)
 
i wouldn't jump to that conclusion, since people aren't relating thier exact locations in refernce to towers etc.
it is too bad apple wont be saying the whole real issue, it would hurt thier stock value even admitting it is a problem.
oh also i read 2 of those threads, and one guy in particular who says he has no problems doesnt even own an iphone 4 lol

I would agree, however I get the problem at home, at work in the middle of downtown Birmingham across the street from a tower, and pretty much every where I go.
 
All the board members are still beating Steve upside the head with the iPad. We’ll probably hear something Monday.

ouch, but wait my ipad 3g doesnt have signal problems.. they should be using the iphone 4 (with a bumper on it)
 
....Me:"What are my options now"
Bonehead: "You have many options sir, you could buy the bumpers or hold it differently. This phone is different, you need to hold it differently"

This is customer service at its finest people. This is how you treat your customers. :rolleyes:

*Goes to search for Returns Dept. phone number*
 
I'd say it's an issue. I setup speakers near the phone so that you could actually hear the sound of the data stopping and restarting as I touched the sweet spot on the phone. You can also see the website stop loading and resume again when released.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzn8QhrYIvI

Very enlightening video. It's a real shame this issue has been coined the "death grip". It's really confusing the simple-minded around here. All it takes is a single touch with a fingertip. It's a completely a different issue than attenuation due to the entire hand.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again -

Want something to throw at Steve Jobs while you boo him at the next keynote speach? There's an app for that.
 
Very enlightening video. It's a real shame this issue has been coined the "death grip". It's really confusing the simple-minded around here. All it takes is a single touch with a fingertip. It's a completely a different issue than attenuation due to the entire hand.

The video I posted a few posts up shows the same thing. As soon as the affected area is touched, transmission, both voice and data, slows to a trickle or ceases altogether.

I'm hoping that a software fix will do something, but based on these latest videos it really does seem like this is a hardware issue.

A 1 mill unit recall is gonna be rough.
 
A 1 mill unit recall is gonna be rough.

Too tough. Which is why they'll just sit tight, issue some noncommittal statements and some sort of software placebo.

It took them four months to even admit that the imac screen issues existed...
 
A 1 mill unit recall is gonna be rough.
It's gonna be even tougher to redesign the phone from scratch in 2 weeks. ;)

Seriously though, I don't know what a recall would accomplish. If this is indeed a hardware problem/design flaw, I guess the only thing they could do is come up with some sort of insulation coating that sticks to the stainless steel, but stuff like that needs to be tested or there will be even more embarrassment when the coating starts falling off in flakes. Redesigning the structure of the phone would take a long ass time. So the only option would be to make the bumper an included accessory in the same color as the phone, and if people want other colors they'll have to buy them extra.

Another thing I'm wondering about is these reports of the glass shattering. There's one thread where someone talks about the front shattering after a 2 foot drop. What the hell? I have 99¢ Ikea glasses that have survived being dropped from 4 feet and they sure as hell aren't made from "chemically strengthened glass 20 times stiffer and 30 times harder than plastic and used in helicopter windshields".
 
Very enlightening video. It's a real shame this issue has been coined the "death grip". It's really confusing the simple-minded around here. All it takes is a single touch with a fingertip. It's a completely a different issue than attenuation due to the entire hand.

I still don't get under what normal usage do people touch the phone there.

It is not part of any normal handling or usage of the phone.

Also I thought everyone used cases in the first place. All I heard about for years was how everyone used a case on their phone. Now for some reason nobody is using a case? It is all so confusing.

So if you specifically touch one part of the phone it impacts the signal.. I think Mr. Jobs advice is good then, don't touch it there. The video shows where he is touching, please show me a video of a normal usage of the phone that would have someone touching the lower left hand corner of the phone when actually using it, short of some kind of palm wrapped death grip.

Are people holding the phone between their thumb and forefinger on the bottom of the phone? I just tried it and it is awkward and unstable as the phone is prone to flip and rotate...

So for those few people who do not plan to use a case, please show me a video of someone actually using the phone like a normal person would, that causes this to be a problem.

There is no normal grip short of a full palm and hand wrap that anyone would ever use to hold the phone that would cover that part of it, be it for a lefty or a righty.

So for the second time I will reiterate, Steve's advice of not holding it there seems extremely solid and not difficult.
 
I have 99¢ Ikea glasses that have survived being dropped from 4 feet and they sure as hell aren't made from "chemically strengthened glass 20 times stiffer and 30 times harder than plastic and used in helicopter windshields".

Are those glasses as heavy as the iP4 though? Otherwise, it's an unfair comparison. Plus, with any glass based product, is has a weak point. If the phone is dropped and it lands on that, it's going to shatter. Better get that insurance sorted!
 
please show me a video of a normal usage of the phone that would have someone touching the lower left hand corner of the phone when actually using it, short of some kind of palm wrapped death grip.

Suggest you watch the keynotes video
 
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