As I have said before iPhone OS 3 slowed the iPhone down to nearly unusable levels. I'd be surprised if Apple was able to kick out anything that sped the phone back to iPhone 1 speeds.
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Jobs: Software Update to Address iOS 4 Performance Issues on iPhone 3G 'Coming Soon'
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Sure. That must be why iPhone 4 is selling at record numbers.
Ever realize iPhone is on 2 year upgrade cycle?
...btw Folders is cool but it gets old and the excitement goes back to "meh"
I think it's a great tribute to apple that we now take for granted the touch screen, 3G, the ability to have our email and web browser in our pocket, thousands of photos and songs. Five years ago we'd have been stunned if someone pulled out their phone and ran apps or read a book on it, much less watch a full length movie on a flight. Yeah, the "wow" factor diminishes but now folders--to return to your point--are just one more bullet in the pocket computing arsenal we take for granted.
BTW does anyone know if the new iOS will fix the proximity sensor on the iphone4? That's the only thing shooting blanks on my phone right now.
Hey Steve! How about iOS 4 for the iPad? Remember the iPad? Uh, so when?
September? October? November? Tomorrow?
September? October? November? Tomorrow?
It's called a contract.....mine's not up for a while still. So if it were only $200 sure, but it' more like $400 for me.
Pffft. I would rather Mr Jobs just gave any existing iPhone and iPhone 3G owners a free upgrade to iPhone 4.
You guys are all completely out of touch with software development.
Name one piece of software - ever - that was issued 100% bug free and never had an update or a patch?
You cant.
Windows, OSX, iOS, Linux, Android - all receive regular patches and updates, and new major versions with bugs.
Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Opera - all have had major and minor versions, bugs, and fixes.
Wii, PS3, XBOX 360 - all have had system updates, some worked well and some broke things.
Adobe CS, iTunes, MS Office - tons and tons of versions and updates.
BIOS updates, graphic driver updates. I have had USB hard disk drives that got firmware updates.
My cable box, my TiVO - both have received system updates, both have had glitches.
I got software updates on my car and my van. Even motorcycles get software updates now.
Even satellites, spacecraft, and Mars rovers have had glitches and received software updates.
I work in IT. There is a process. Bugs are found, they are prioritized, they are cost and time boxed, and they are fixed as resources allow. Sometimes bugs just flat out wont ever be fixed. Sometimes bug fixes create new bugs. THAT IS HOW IT WORKS, thats why we use SOFTware - so that it can be updated and tweaked.
And not every company or every project will issue a press release every day keeping every customer up to date on every single issue. Sometimes, you just use what you have and if a new product or fix is released - you get it, and you try it and if it makes things better then YAY!
Jesus, you guys act like spoiled children.
Name one piece of software - ever - that was issued 100% bug free and never had an update or a patch?
You cant.
Windows, OSX, iOS, Linux, Android - all receive regular patches and updates, and new major versions with bugs.
Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Opera - all have had major and minor versions, bugs, and fixes.
Wii, PS3, XBOX 360 - all have had system updates, some worked well and some broke things.
Adobe CS, iTunes, MS Office - tons and tons of versions and updates.
BIOS updates, graphic driver updates. I have had USB hard disk drives that got firmware updates.
My cable box, my TiVO - both have received system updates, both have had glitches.
I got software updates on my car and my van. Even motorcycles get software updates now.
Even satellites, spacecraft, and Mars rovers have had glitches and received software updates.
I work in IT. There is a process. Bugs are found, they are prioritized, they are cost and time boxed, and they are fixed as resources allow. Sometimes bugs just flat out wont ever be fixed. Sometimes bug fixes create new bugs. THAT IS HOW IT WORKS, thats why we use SOFTware - so that it can be updated and tweaked.
And not every company or every project will issue a press release every day keeping every customer up to date on every single issue. Sometimes, you just use what you have and if a new product or fix is released - you get it, and you try it and if it makes things better then YAY!
Jesus, you guys act like spoiled children.
Actually, I agree and I was just a few days away from ordering the iPhone-4. But it was to be on my terms, and not Apple! The bricking of my 3G put the binders on for me, and I effectively lost confidence in the CEO and the company. Yes, I did downgrade my iPhone 3G so my immediate problem is solved.
Anyway, it was not any one single issue, rather, the culmination of iPhone related issues that caused me to look elsewhere. I love the Apple hardware/software ecosystem when ‘it just works’ but in this particular field, there are better smartphone devices arriving on the market.
Long time coming. This should have never been allowed to take place. My fear has been if someone needed to make an emergency phone call when seconds matter. I have wanted to throw this frustratingly slow thing on several occasions.
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Here is a Genreal Rule
As a software/network engineer, we have seen that whenever a new major release is installed in older hardware, you see about a 10-15% decrease in performance. This is due to 'fatter' code to support all of the new features.
The iPhone 3G was initially supported with IOS 2.x. So, 4.x represents 2 major releases for the 3G. No matter what they do, we will still see about a 20-30% decrease in performance (compared to IOS 2.x) even after the release of the upcoming optimization corrections.
As a software/network engineer, we have seen that whenever a new major release is installed in older hardware, you see about a 10-15% decrease in performance. This is due to 'fatter' code to support all of the new features.
The iPhone 3G was initially supported with IOS 2.x. So, 4.x represents 2 major releases for the 3G. No matter what they do, we will still see about a 20-30% decrease in performance (compared to IOS 2.x) even after the release of the upcoming optimization corrections.
Actually, I agree and I was just a few days away from ordering the iPhone-4. But it was to be on my terms, and not Apple! The bricking of my 3G put the binders on for me, and I effectively lost confidence in the CEO and the company. Yes, I did downgrade and my immediate problem is solved.
Anyway, it was not any one single issue, rather, the culmination of iPhone related issues that caused me to look elsewhere. I love the Apple hardware/software ecosystem when it just works but in this particular field, there are better smartphone devices arriving on the market.
Your right and that is just what I did... to anything that is not a IPhone. The only reason that I did not go with a IPhone is that fact that I had a working phone until Apple sent out a update that made it a paper weight... so why would I support them by buying another one of their products after they broke mine.
I found a new form or respect for coders after trying a very basic module in university in C. Never again do I want to touch that stuff so I have no issue with 'bugs' - heck iTunes app on my 3G running 3.1.3 just quit for no apparent reason, but it's the first time it ever happened and quite rightly not worth Apple spending any resources to fix (back when it was the current version).
I don't agree with how slow the 3G got at the minimal gain of features. Trying to run the iPod while browsing Safari simply isn't possible without the music skipping - or when I missed a call due to the slide to answer UI not appearing for the duration of the ringing. That I cannot forgive no matter the company.
Even on 3.1.3 - a far more feature rich OS than what the 3G originally shipped with, all of this is possible to an acceptable level of speed. Obviously not as snappy as it was originally but nothing to complain over when you take in account the feature gain.
So will mine. Heres to happy wives EVERYWHERE!
I downgraded hers to 3.1.3 for now and she is happy enough to be honest.
Excellent point! This is exactly why Apple should not have offered the update for the iPhone 3G. This was their 'Little Bighorn' in my view.
Many people share that frustration. It really comes down to not wanting misinformation to be spread. There probably is concern over class action lawsuits related to bugs too. The bug tracking system is aimed at the developers actually fixing the bugs and could easily be misconstrued. Major bugs are usually squashed before a major release, it is usually the culmination of a lot of minor bugs that are what people are interested in. Some of these bugs may have security implications, so they don't want to advertise them too much either. I think they could improve the situation though. At least some additional technical PR people that can respond to widespread issues in a timely manner and a single location to look for this information. Even if they just say they consider a problem anecdotal, but are looking in to it would be great. In fact they may be able to get the community to help "prove" a problem exists in the anecdotal case if they had a method for this. They could even collect iPhone backups from users easily to help reproduce a particular issue.
Sometimes these bugs are shared in an Apple KB note too. I'm sure that Apple will continue the tradition after Steve Jobs hands the reigns over someday.
Are you kidding me?!
We're not talking about some small little bug that has a few quirks here and there. We're talking about making the phone almost unusable! Did you watch the video?
They should have just not released it for the 3G. Making a phone work that badly is just unacceptable PERIOD!
I will be happy. My 3G runs like crap. At least the phone still functions and music plays back fine. I've been slightly tempted to just go buy an iPhone 4.
Too late.
I've switched to Verizon / Android and my wife has gone back to using her old iPhone 1G.
We have two unused iPhone 3G phones now... oh well, on the plus side I've not had buyer's remorse over my Droid X yet...
May still go for the iPad for myself in the future.
I've switched to Verizon / Android and my wife has gone back to using her old iPhone 1G.
We have two unused iPhone 3G phones now... oh well, on the plus side I've not had buyer's remorse over my Droid X yet...
May still go for the iPad for myself in the future.
I guess because they were still shipping the iPhone 3G at that point, they decided to save face and make iOS 4 available. I always thought it was odd it was available for the 3G and not the original iPhone, seeing as other than the 3G radio they're internally pretty much the same thing. iPhone1,1 and iPhone1,2.
Maybe this will make people more keen to get the real iOS 4.fasteron3g working on the original too! Mine is still sitting around feeling unloved.
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Image the uproar if Apple had cut support for the 3G all together. to them this was the lessor of the 2 evils.
Image the uproar if Apple had cut support for the 3G all together. to them this was the lessor of the 2 evils.
