That's not because Froyo is particularly good. It's just that previous Android versions were really bad performance wise. Bar the browser, Froyo just brings Android up to standard with other smartphones.
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That's not because Froyo is particularly good. It's just that previous Android versions were really bad performance wise. Bar the browser, Froyo just brings Android up to standard with other smartphones.
Call me pessimistic but I have a hunch that the iOS4 on 3g update may have had more to do with iAds than anything else.
As long as they can get it running well then that's all that matters.
I don't agree or disagree on your comment regarding Android catching up with other smartphones performance wise but an update that can improve performance across the board is a welcome one.
I had a client whose 3G was critical for her business operations and scheduling. After she upgraded to iOS4, she experienced the same poor performance as so many others have complained about here. I told her to first sync and backup her current setup through iTunes. I told her to then restore iOS4 to the standard installation and NOT restore her personal backup, but to manually reinstall her necessary apps and settings (a BIG inconvenience, I know). She said that completely fixed the performance issues and she loves the fact that she was able to do some housecleaning at the same time.
Much like doing a clean OS install on a computer, legacy files that corrode performance persist when simply upgrading (restoring you personal backup on the iPhone is synonymous with an upgrade NOT a clean install).
I hope this helps some folks out there who want to fix the performance issues while trying to avoid violating Apple's warranty on their phones.
Much like doing a clean OS install on a computer, legacy files that corrode performance persist when simply upgrading (restoring you personal backup on the iPhone is synonymous with an upgrade NOT a clean install).
I hope this helps some folks out there who want to fix the performance issues while trying to avoid violating Apple's warranty on their phones.
Isn't that what terse means?
Plus it's a bit of an ambiguous response considering it's been almost two months since the update screwed up the iPhone 3G. The problems seemed to vary so much but my one was really bad after the update. My girlfriend wanted to get the iphone when i got my iphone 4but after seeing me call apple support to just get no help at all (just suggesting a restore which did not help at all - even had a techie suggest I upgrade to the iPhone 4!) but she doesn't want it now and I don't blame her. Apple has a great rep for support (experienced this first hand) which makes it more surprising that they basically ignored the iPhone 3G issues when it left my phone bricked. They even made it really difficult to downgrade.
I like apple and I still have faith in the support teams but it wouldn't hurt to actually look after the customers.
Awesome, except then you lose all of your saved games, like the 10+ hours spent in Final Fantasy, any cities you've spent countless hours creating in Sim City, or any of the other many games available only on the App Store.
Oh, and if you downgrade as I did, your OS 4 backup won't restore to OS 3. Now that's my fault for not ensuring that I had my last OS 3 backup safe (I'd have only lost a couple days' worth of stuff), but it's still a huge pain and a really big turn off.
Until Apple allows backups and restores for individual apps, this is a huge CF.
I must be one of the lucky ones. My iPhone 3G was unbelievably slow after the 4.0 update but I did a reset (hold down the power and home buttons until the phone restarts and you see the Apple logo) and it's been just fine ever since. I did that just on a whim but since then, I've seen numerous articles showing up online confirming that others have had success with that as well.
I get a couple odd lags every so often, maybe once or twice a day, but it's nothing even close to the video and nothing close to what I hear from others.
I get a couple odd lags every so often, maybe once or twice a day, but it's nothing even close to the video and nothing close to what I hear from others.
Coincidentally, before seeing this story, I left feedback for Apple earlier this morning describing 2 things about iOS 4 on my 3GS
(1) There's apparently a occasional bug in Mail display where it won't display new messages downloaded via IMAP -- so that I have to kill it from the background task list, and then when relaunched, all the messages are right there.
(2) Responsiveness has been a significant issue on my 3GS. I can sometimes swipe several times trying to just answer a call coming in. And at other times, the phone stops responding for a few seconds. This is why I've left my wife's phone on iOS 3. I'm glad to hear that Apple's looking into this.
Re: new software on old hardware.
My parent's 1999 candy-color iMac and my 2000 Powerbook G4 both performed significantly better with each iteration of MacOS X 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, and then 10.4 (end of the line for MacOS on PowerPC). It was really impressive how Apple was optimizing the OS such that performed better with each iteration. Both of these Macs are still used daily.
(1) There's apparently a occasional bug in Mail display where it won't display new messages downloaded via IMAP -- so that I have to kill it from the background task list, and then when relaunched, all the messages are right there.
(2) Responsiveness has been a significant issue on my 3GS. I can sometimes swipe several times trying to just answer a call coming in. And at other times, the phone stops responding for a few seconds. This is why I've left my wife's phone on iOS 3. I'm glad to hear that Apple's looking into this.
Re: new software on old hardware.
My parent's 1999 candy-color iMac and my 2000 Powerbook G4 both performed significantly better with each iteration of MacOS X 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, and then 10.4 (end of the line for MacOS on PowerPC). It was really impressive how Apple was optimizing the OS such that performed better with each iteration. Both of these Macs are still used daily.
Well..
Now Apple is discovering the difficulty of managing an OS on multiple platforms like Microsoft has had to do for the past 25 years.
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17" MBP, VMware Fusion, Window 7, iPhone 4 (Jailbroken and loving it!)
Now Apple is discovering the difficulty of managing an OS on multiple platforms like Microsoft has had to do for the past 25 years.
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17" MBP, VMware Fusion, Window 7, iPhone 4 (Jailbroken and loving it!)
With all due respect, you are seeing it wrong...
There is an issue, created by Apple, and that does not change because a self-professed 'geek' says so. This is a phone that people use mainly to make calls and the other things that any '$0 with a contract' phone does these days. More so, end-users just plug it in, and there it is, iTunes telling you to update to the latest version (sometimes with security fixes, etc. that you need). Regular users are not the kind, nor should they be, that will look at it from a geek point of view: "This is a .0 release, I better skip this one". Unfortunately, the 2 years old 3G phone feels like an 8 years old PC running windows Vista. Sluggish, erratic, crappy, etc. That is frustrating when all you want to do is call somebody and you have to wait for the screen to be responsive so that you can 'slide to unlock'. Then you tap the Phone icon, and you have to wait again. Then tap the Contacts icon, and guess what, wait again. Then scroll, and wait, and tap the contact and wait, and tap phone number, and wait, to finally have a phone call being made. So, I am sorry but the complain is legitimate now, regardless of what you think.
Additionally, as a Developer using 4.1, I hope the issues are addressed soon because 4.1 beta 3 is still as frustrating and slow as seen in the video attached in the original post.
Now about your comments on Apple engineers, poor quality software cannot be excused just because most software companies do such crappy job, and you apparently go to crappy restaurants and don't like most of the people around you. As much as those engineers are people, like you and I, QA is done for a reason, especially for a company that will tell you "is all about the software" and that prides itself in the quality of their software. And all those comments on the Apple engineers are just silly and out of context here. If anything, most people who follows Apple or their products know that their engineers are usually over worked. (Ever heard of Mac OS being delayed because some engineers where shifted from that team to the iPhone OS team? That, no matter how much you and I like Apple and their products, is a very ridiculous situation for a multi-billion dollars company.
There is an issue, created by Apple, and that does not change because a self-professed 'geek' says so. This is a phone that people use mainly to make calls and the other things that any '$0 with a contract' phone does these days. More so, end-users just plug it in, and there it is, iTunes telling you to update to the latest version (sometimes with security fixes, etc. that you need). Regular users are not the kind, nor should they be, that will look at it from a geek point of view: "This is a .0 release, I better skip this one". Unfortunately, the 2 years old 3G phone feels like an 8 years old PC running windows Vista. Sluggish, erratic, crappy, etc. That is frustrating when all you want to do is call somebody and you have to wait for the screen to be responsive so that you can 'slide to unlock'. Then you tap the Phone icon, and you have to wait again. Then tap the Contacts icon, and guess what, wait again. Then scroll, and wait, and tap the contact and wait, and tap phone number, and wait, to finally have a phone call being made. So, I am sorry but the complain is legitimate now, regardless of what you think.
Additionally, as a Developer using 4.1, I hope the issues are addressed soon because 4.1 beta 3 is still as frustrating and slow as seen in the video attached in the original post.
Now about your comments on Apple engineers, poor quality software cannot be excused just because most software companies do such crappy job, and you apparently go to crappy restaurants and don't like most of the people around you. As much as those engineers are people, like you and I, QA is done for a reason, especially for a company that will tell you "is all about the software" and that prides itself in the quality of their software. And all those comments on the Apple engineers are just silly and out of context here. If anything, most people who follows Apple or their products know that their engineers are usually over worked. (Ever heard of Mac OS being delayed because some engineers where shifted from that team to the iPhone OS team? That, no matter how much you and I like Apple and their products, is a very ridiculous situation for a multi-billion dollars company.
I keep expecting iOS 4.1 to come either when the new iPod touches are available and/or when they are ready with 4.1 for the iPad. I get the impression that won't happen for another month at least. Apple's response to this issue with the iPhone 3G has been criminal.
But there are MILLIONS of iPhone 3G users who are not complaining. The only thing we have in these forums is anecdotal evidence. The plural of "anecdote" is not "fact".
There have also been several workarounds which people have reported either solve the problem or mitigate it quite a bit.
But in the end, Apple has said they are working on an update that should address the issues. What more would people like? A free pony?
How about a fix for the bluetooth now. Ridivulous after two months and this widespread problem still hasn't been addressed
It runs fine for me now but it did run too slow to be usable with 4.0 but 4.1 rocks my phone. the first iphone would run 4 fine but people should really upgrade if they are still on that phone. they took out game center then it ran fine (4.1b3) and now my 3g runs fine. i cant afford the 4 yet
Why would they spend time testing the older phone when they did not even do enough testing on the 4!
Apple has lost their way. I hope they find it again.
The iphone 4 proximity sensor makes it just an ipod touch
You don't know that. I do know though that many everyday users of iPhones won't complain on an internet forum when it slows down to an unsual state.
LOL ROFL!!!! AT THAT VIDEO
THAT VIDEO THOUGH IS HILARIOUS!!!!
iOS 4 on a 3G iPhone FTW!!!
LMAO...so true. I dont even bother trying to answer the phone anymore. I see who is calling and I start the process...slide to unlock, wait...slowly type in code....wait...by then the call is missed and just call them back. The 3g with ios 4 sucks a big one. This video is EXACTLY what I am experiencing.
Every 3G users that I know had complaints,, they just aren't all vocal about it (they don't necessary write to Apple or post to Apple forums).
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Listen to yourselves. So melodramatic.
If they hadn't released it for the 3G you would have complained. They did and it isn't quite up to snuff, you complain. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
You do realize you can email the CEO right? In 2010, you can email the CEO of a multi-billion dollar company and get a reply. Apple is an excellent company with unparalleled support, I trust them to do what is right.
If they hadn't released it for the 3G you would have complained. They did and it isn't quite up to snuff, you complain. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
You do realize you can email the CEO right? In 2010, you can email the CEO of a multi-billion dollar company and get a reply. Apple is an excellent company with unparalleled support, I trust them to do what is right.
The video reflects my experience with iOS4. Nothing meldramatic about it I'm afraid. Had I known it was going to be this slow I would happy if it was never released for the 3G.
As others have mentioned, turning off all spotlight options does give you a slight boost, but doesn't bring the speed up to anything like it was pre-iOS4. My 3G is a pain in the backside to use now. This update can't come soon enough.