I hope they do fix it, I don't have my 3g(that I updated to ios4) anymore but I sold it to a buddy after getting iphone 4 and warned him that he would have to live with the lag or do the super long downgrade process, hopefully he can just get 4.1 and fix it easy.
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Watch the keynote. It doesn't say anywhere "it's not a good idea", if you reread, that's my logic on the situation.
Jobs CLEARLY stated in the keynote that ios4 on older devices would be crippled in certain functionalities, lacking in some of the key ios4 features.
Any IDIOT knows that installing a new OS on a two year old device is not going to see great performance. more features and functionality thrust onto older hardware may work, but it's not going to be fast, is it?
little logic, and learn to read, perhaps?
No, it's not worth getting upset.
Simply drop the notion that when you buy a phone that you'll be able to upgrade to newer firmware versions for years. Simply drop it.
Phones are not desktop computers. They have critically limited CPU power, memory and storage. Each phone model has a particular set of hardware devices that need drivers. (Sometimes the same "phone model" will change hardware suppliers mid run.)
Unless you have a written guarantee (and not some verbal "yea, sure" from the droid who sold you your Droid) that you can upgrade, assume that you can't.
Did HTC or your phone company promise an upgrade? If so, get upset. If not - does the phone do what they promised when you bought it? If yes, be happy and upgrade when your contract allows.
Don't expect IOS 5 to run on an Iphone 4. Be happy if it does, but don't consider it an entitlement.
Clearly Apple screwed up in allowing IOS4 upgrades on a 2G Iphone - the device doesn't seem to be capable of supporting it. They should only have allowed IOS4 upgrades on a 3G Iphone. Now Apple is scrambling to clean up the mess - but I doubt that any 2G Iphone owners will be really happy at the outcome.
It can't be "fixed", all they can do is take more and more functions away from ios4 until the processes on older devices can cope better. You can't get significantly faster performance without either sacrificing processes or physically increasing processor speed.
When I received my brand new phone, three months ago, Android 2 was out. It's not unrealistic to expect a new android phone to run the current/latest system. I don't expect software upgrades (it's an OS, not firmware btw) free for ever, but don't expect a phone to be outdated before it's even arrived.
I understand and know everything you are saying - my point is that Android/Google who ever is meant to be in charge of Android crap should stop saying "we have flash, we have multitasking" and stop mis-selling products. If it's a very few models, that needs to be made clear. if Apple did that, there would be hell to pay from the media.
Firstly your phone is functioning as well as the day you bought it and my 3G IS NOT
secondly there were many people that updated the Hero to android 2.1 Maybe its your carrier that did not prepare an update for your phone.
I know this because I have a friend with one and he has android 2.1.
So all Apple customers are obliged to watch Keynote presentations so that they know what to install on their phone. The fact that every time you plug in your phone/Ipod it asks to be updated or the fact that the updates are recommended by Apple for security purposes has no bearing.
There is a difference between *Some features are not supported* and a non properly functioning phone ya know.
I'd genuinely, really, appreciate a link to any information on this, both t-mobile and HTC tell me it can't be done...
It does function, it's just slow and you've reduced the battery life. Restore it to it's default OS and the problems go away.
Your making incorrect assumptions. IOS 4 has many things turned off on 3G phones, but these lags have nothing at all to do with not been able to run the new iOS 4 but more to do with bugs. No one here is dumb, we know it is not going to run like a new iphone 4, but bugs are bugs, they pushed this iOS to fast out the door. Apple use to tend to take their time and bring out things that where stabe, but lately they have been rushing which is not the Apple way.
Its not like they really have to rush.
No, but you could have read the notes before you upgraded, which were presented on screen - did you bother? My partner did, it gave him cause for concern and he didn't upgrade.
Troll!
Fiasco? It is selling like free pancakes, it is an incredible products, scoring best reviews around the world. All people i know have one love it, the antenna problem is non existance and everyphone (i've tired like 30 or more) does it more than iphone4.
maybe it is a fiasco in your mind.
Fanboy!
Kidding. But I mean the antenna issue. Now I actually never had an issue with my own one but a lot of other people did, so that is what I mean when I say the iPhone fiasco, in rather how they dealt with it. My dad's iPhone did have the issue though, so he returned it. Sorry but I'm going to have to call BS on the "everyphone does it more than iphone4" as even the phones they had on the Apple website weren't used the same way.
Maybe you're just delusional.
If you didn't get a written guarantee of an upgrade from the carrier or the handset manufacturer - it's unrealistic to expect an upgrade.
If it's burned into the NVRAM, it's firmware. My espresso maker runs Linux in its firmware - there is no clear line between an "OS" and "firmware". Even the most primitive firmware can have features that are common in operating systems (networking, scheduling, memory management, ...).
The light switches in my house organize themselves into a self-healing mesh network with peer-to-peer communications.
Is it firmware? Yes.
Do they run operating systems? They certainly do many of the things that one expects of an OS.
Did your phone stop performing its advertised functions? If not, then it's not outdated.
You are not entitled to years of firmware upgrades on a phone - unless the vendor has a written guarantee that stating that fact that you can read before buying.
Apple is paying the price now for leading people to expect that entitlement - but now that the Iphone has fragmented too much to make it a reality people are upset.
My 3G was never particularly slow with iOS 4, so that may be cause for hope.
But it crashed daily! Let’s hope 4.1 fixes that as well as the speed. I don’t think 4.0 was ready for release on 3G—they could have held off for 3G users, like they did for iPad users, and I’d have been happier.
In other words, Apple said certain features would be missing to PREVENT problems. Yet the features are missing AND the problems are still there. Not sure how that justifies the rage against people whose telephones no longer function in a usable way.
Nobody’s asking for “great perfomance,” but simply for basic usability. That promise is implied by the very fact of the OS being released to 3G users at all (and in fact, the update is quite automated, so many people—“idiots” as you call them—would treat it like any other software update from Apple).
But it crashed daily! Let’s hope 4.1 fixes that as well as the speed. I don’t think 4.0 was ready for release on 3G—they could have held off for 3G users, like they did for iPad users, and I’d have been happier.
In other words, Apple said certain features would be missing to PREVENT problems. Yet the features are missing AND the problems are still there. Not sure how that justifies the rage against people whose telephones no longer function in a usable way.
Nobody’s asking for “great perfomance,” but simply for basic usability. That promise is implied by the very fact of the OS being released to 3G users at all (and in fact, the update is quite automated, so many people—“idiots” as you call them—would treat it like any other software update from Apple).
Yeah, like that's friendly intuitive thing to do as if most people just hang out in boards and read posts all day.
I am not having a problem since i have an iPhone 3Gs, I am talking about all my friends who do have 3G's who are having a problem.
I'm done with you!
Oh not you again.
As someone rightfully said not all Apple customers watch the keynotes. The only bit of information the average user will get is in iTunes when it tells them there is an update available. No iPhone update page in iTunes has ever said that it won't perform well on older iPhones.
And "installing a new OS on a two year old device is not going to see great performance" - that's a bit of a grey area. I'd accept that but this isn't the situation with the iPhone 3G. With my own one it would crash everytime the screen turned off and restart - if I was lucky. Otherwise it would not work at all. This after a clean restore with no backup.
And two years, even in technology, is a poor lifetime for a product.
Not a parody
As someone who bought the initial iPhone and then a 3G (and an iPad, and run my business using mac products such as OS X server, macbooks, minis, etc.), I would appreciate a more informative and less arrogant response. What does soon mean? Next week, next month? How long are consumers of apple products expected to suffer such poor performance? From my point of view, the video was less a parody and more 'reality TV'.
As someone who bought the initial iPhone and then a 3G (and an iPad, and run my business using mac products such as OS X server, macbooks, minis, etc.), I would appreciate a more informative and less arrogant response. What does soon mean? Next week, next month? How long are consumers of apple products expected to suffer such poor performance? From my point of view, the video was less a parody and more 'reality TV'.
If an update is released for your phone you expect it to perform better not worse. Most people upgraded knowing that they didn't have the latest and greatest but expected an update for the 3G to work on the 3G. Now they cant answer their phones, which is by the way, the primary function of the iPhone.
I was thinking the same thing. But I guess "terse" has a more negative connotation than "concise" or "succinct". But to say that it was "far from terse" is definitely wrong.