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John Gruber: Apple Invented USB Type C
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My thoughts exactly.
Just because Apple has decided that it hates wires, doesn't mean that we all have to adopt slower more complex ways of doing everything.
For example.. Handoff doesn't work half the time, Airdrop is constantly stuffing up, bluetooth is a bother....Syncing iDevices over wifi for backup and for getting content on is far slower over wifi.
Those advertised 10 hour battery life stats are usually based around web browsing, watching videos, and light work. The moment you do something that spikes all the cores in your processor, or starts riding the GPU for an extended period of time, you'll be lucky to get even 5 hours out even a Macbook Air.
No, that's called buying the wrong product. No one should be "forced" to use a dongle. If they are, then they should have purchased a MB Pro or Air. For someone who'd use the dongle 1% of the time, if that, I'd gladly give up a few ports for something so svelte and lightweight.
It should've been the future but Apple dropped the ball or maybe Intel dropped the ball and it ended up being just another proprietary port a la that xkcd comic.
If everyone actually adopts USB C (and it's looking good so far) then it will be the dream.
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Thunderbolt 2 isn't enough for 5K today. That's why the retina iMac doesn't support target display mode.
If you don't use ports and don't need processing power then buy an iPad. This product is wrong for everyone.
I don't see Thunderbolt going away. I consider it more of a high-end type of connection, rarely to be used by the target market of the "entry-level" MacBook laptop. Anyone with a MacBook that wants Thunderbolt could have their cable connected to a hub that is then plugged into the MacBook. Thunderbolt still has some advantages over USB-C, such as the native optical, long-distance cabling. That may come to USB-C eventually, but that conflicts with the bi-directional power capability of USB-C, so it's hard to say. I hope USB-C doesn't get messy like earlier versions, where certain cables can do power and others can't.
Right... Yet, they'll see it in drove. Guess those people are ghosts... I'm going to trust Apple did more market research than you.
2Gbps is not nearly enough bandwidth for the things that people really use Thunderbolt for, like Fibre channel and 10GigE and external PCIe chassis.
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Actually, it's what Thunderbolt is delivering in spades. USB-C is also a great standard. They may even converge at some point. But the two in conjunction are fantastic.
I'm sure most products that fail have as well. By your reasoning no products should ever fail.
That's not a reason for not using a magsafe-style connector. Instead, it is a reason for not using a transfer protocol without error detection. But nobody in their right mind would dream of using such an inferior and defective protocol for a modern multiple-Gbps connection, since there will be bit errors even if the physical connection is rock solid.
There may be other reasons for not using magsafe for a data connection (e.g. difficulty of having enough pins in a reasonably-sized magsafe connector) but data integrity is not a factor here.
Yet, you provided no cogent argument for this failure.
That's why I say I trust their market research more than you.
Its not like this is something totally out of left field for them like the watch.
The watch is were they're taking much more risk, not this.
I meant the other way around, people will hand you a USB-C memory stick at some point while you computer still doesn't have USB-C ports.
You raise a good point. Couldn't Apple invent a magnetic port, though, that shuts off the date transfer if it is disconnected, and resumes transferring data when reconnected? This could either be a hardware or software-based safety.
They would have. If you listened to the unveiling of the new MacBook, they use the term re-invent.
The problem is not the data transfer (do error detection on that is pretty standard), the problem are the file systems (HFS+, NTFS, FAT, etc.). They have gotten better as well (like the journalling added to HFS+) but only the newest ones like ZFS have things like copy-on-write and checksumming. Networking protocols are designed to expect interruption, file systems less so.
And when you have external storage powered via the data connection (as it is often the case with USB, FW, and TB), cutting the connection means also the external device is without power and cannot gracefully shut down. The most extreme case is booting from an external device, cut that connection you have a full OS crash and there is obviously not enough smarts in an external disk to properly shutdown the OS. An advanced file system might be able to ensure not no file is left in a half-written state (but even that is impossible if the power is cut at the same time) but the OS is certainly dealt a messy state on disk from which it has to boot the next time. And of course everything that was not saved (ie, only stored in memory) will be lost in such a situation.
