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The hostility towards Ive is weird. Even MacRumors itself engages in it by using that intentionally awful photo of him. How insulting and unnecessary.
Jony Ive nailed Apple's aesthetic design, got promoted out of the position he was best at, then set back Apple's functional design by a decade.

He's hailed (by aesthetic designers) as one of the greatest designers. Yet he puts functional design a distant second, compromising it for the sake of aesthetic design. Making him a highly flawed product designer by true definitions of the term.

Functional design, hidden within the trojan horse of aesthetic design, has ALWAYS been Apple's secret sauce. When he was no longer reporting to people who understood that fact, Jony Ive screwed that sauce up in a variety of ways that took many years after he left to repair.
 
Jony Ive designs revolutionary products at Apple that establish Apple in the mainstream.

Jony Ive leaves Apple.

Apple design products that are progressively worse.

Apple struggles to maintain innovative edge among increasing competition.

Jony Ive starts a new tech company that will become more Apple than Apple.

Jony Ive is pushed/guided by Steve Jobs to design revolutionary products.

Steve Jobs leaves Apple.

Ive designs products that are progressively worse.

Ive struggles to maintain his position at Apple.

Ive leaves Apple and starts a new tech company that becomes nothing at all.
 
Jony Ive designs revolutionary products at Apple that establish Apple in the mainstream.

Jony Ive leaves Apple.

Apple design products that are progressively worse.

Apple struggles to maintain innovative edge among increasing competition.

Jony Ive starts a new tech company that will become more Apple than Apple.
The MacBook Pro got better when Ive left.
 
The hostility towards Ive is weird. Even MacRumors itself engages in it by using that intentionally awful photo of him. How insulting and unnecessary.
Have you seen any MacRumors posters in person? These are not people ambivalent to “thin” product positioning.
 
The hostility towards Ive is weird. Even MacRumors itself engages in it by using that intentionally awful photo of him. How insulting and unnecessary.
It's part of the dismantling of the Steve Jobs era. It's what Tim Cook's Apple has been doing subtly for years as he transforms Apple from a visionary company into a strictly profit-driven company.
 
It's part of the dismantling of the Steve Jobs era. It's what Tim Cook's Apple has been doing subtly for years as he transforms Apple from a visionary company into a strictly profit-driven company.
No, nothing here is close to factual. MacRumors posters were hostile to the entire Jobs led Apple direction. In particular the focus on thin electronics. You can peruse the boards yourself but it was clear massively overweight posters were offended by the focus on thinner designs.
 
No, nothing here is close to factual. MacRumors posters were hostile to the entire Jobs led Apple direction. In particular the focus on thin electronics. You can peruse the boards yourself but it was clear massively overweight posters were offended by the focus on thinner designs.

I liked the thin designs. I liked most of Ive’s design work. Besides, you just registered here. Are you saying you read 13 year old posts to arrive at your conclusion?
 
Jony Ive designs revolutionary products at Apple that establish Apple in the mainstream.

Jony Ive leaves Apple.

Apple design products that are progressively worse.

Apple struggles to maintain innovative edge among increasing competition.

Jony Ive starts a new tech company that will become more Apple than Apple.
The Macbook Pros are certainly better without his influence.
 
it's quite strange. Like it or not a lot of apple's success was due to this man.

Yet macrumors honors him by finding a photo depicting him as an old lost man?

You never see these unflattering photos of tim cook posted on the site.

Macrumors could you post this on a future article on tim cooke please?
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on that note of embarrassing photos - how about this one of elon?
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All of their success? not really. He didn't become CDO (someone who can actually make final calls) until 2015. He began winding down his work at Apple in 2018 to pursue other interests, and halfway through 2019 he had already left Apple. Apple was worth 600 billion when he started as CDO, and 700 billion when he started winding down his work. So in his 4 year run calling the shots, he only grew the company 100 billion. That's just standard projected growth based on consumers they already had locked in. Now compare that to the 4 years after he left the company grew to be valued at 3 trillion. No surprise really, as I myself and many millions of users didn't start buying Apple products until he left and all of his awful decisions were reversed. No one wanted to buy a keyboard that broke, a phone that bent, a laptop that overheated just web browsing, a laptop with no ports, a phone that you had to hold awkwardly just to get signal, the list goes on and on and on. The man was an artist, he didn't design products that were acceptable or useable for human needs and day to day tasks. The weird fanboying over a man that consistently made awful decisions that frustrated the average consumer and cost Apple millions in lawsuits and repairs is baffling.

Just one more sin waiting to be resolved. The Magic Ive Mouse.
 
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Jony Ive is pushed/guided by Steve Jobs to design revolutionary products.

Steve Jobs leaves Apple.

Ive designs products that are progressively worse.

Ive struggles to maintain his position at Apple.

Ive leaves Apple and starts a new tech company that becomes nothing at all.
A lot of conjecture here. Oh and Steve didn’t leave Apple. He died.
 
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So many companies coming up with ‘AI” powered gimmicks and then looking for a problem for them to solve. I mean really - what is the point of these things?

AI has replaced “Cloud Computing” which replaced “Web 2.0” in the Internet / Computing marketing speak space. It’s the latest marketing phrase that real entrepreneurs and want-to-be’s posing as real entrepreneurs in Silicon Valley know they can throw around to drum up cash from venture capitalists looking for the next big thing.

At the end of the day it’s machine learning algorithms and advancements in hardware to help increase the processing power related to those algorithms. The kind of stuff that computer science and engineering students geek out about but when you start talking about what it actually is you’re average person’s eyes start to roll up into the back of their head.

Don’t get me wrong, we’re in exciting times and the underlying technology is finally starting to mature in ways that allow for useful and unique real world functionality that is exciting but these are very, very early days and the notation that we’re talking about real AI that can do anything resembling thinking for itself is way off base at this point.
 
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I disagree, great picture! shows how obsessed with details he is and not seeing the big picture, like usability of the product. Butterfly keyboards anyone? Meticulously designing a laptop without any useful ports?

Being obsessed is one thing. Being obsessed while wearing glasses that look like a pair an 80 year old would wear is something a bit different. LOL ….
 
The hostility towards Ive is weird. Even MacRumors itself engages in it by using that intentionally awful photo of him. How insulting and unnecessary.
Maybe because he took form or function to an extreme. While he designed beautiful items, they usually lacked utility compared to competitors fugly products.. Personally, I hate apple and their fetish for dongles. I can't stand carrying around dongles and Ives really loved his dongles. And boy did we need Dongles under Ives
 
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