If you start rolling the pencil, it will keep rolling for a bit (and eventually stop rolling with the word "Pencil" facing up. If you just place it down it will just roll into that position and no further.
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Jony Ive: Apple Pencil Will Not 'Replace the Finger as a Point of Interface'
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If you start rolling the pencil, it will keep rolling for a bit (and eventually stop rolling with the word "Pencil" facing up. If you just place it down it will just roll into that position and no further.
hahaha yeah right Johny... sure....
I can hear the sound of that Apple car shouting "Vehicle Reversing" now.......
Seriously, he should have just kept it closed as now all it looks like is Apple doing serious damage control trying to cover up their utterly embarrassing hypocrisy. Pretty much everyone had forgotten about it and then Hereeesss Jony!!!! To remind us all again lol.
I can hear the sound of that Apple car shouting "Vehicle Reversing" now.......
Seriously, he should have just kept it closed as now all it looks like is Apple doing serious damage control trying to cover up their utterly embarrassing hypocrisy. Pretty much everyone had forgotten about it and then Hereeesss Jony!!!! To remind us all again lol.
Didn't Apple at one point say touchscreen navigation on Surface like tablets is unergonomic and people should not be reaching up from the keyboard to touch the screen to navigate? So what makes touchscreen navigation on the iPad Pro ergonomic when it has a keyboard docked like shown above?
Apple said, it is unergonomic on the Desktop, never on iOS.
Big difference here, I think.
It's hard to imagine not being able to design an app's interface so the Pencil would work as well or better for the application you describe.
A mouse can only be that precise if you're zoomed in or have a 'snap-to' feature (or some similar accommodations). There are many ways to design an app interface so a point selected by the Pencil would 'stick.'
BTW, I've noticed a pattern whenever I hear the phrase "I know for a fact ...."
Wow! Are you from an alternate timeline where that is still kind of clever or funny or ironic or even meta-ironical?!? What is it like where you are from???
Oh really?
Then I have something you should seriously read written by legendary Apple designers:
http://www.fastcodesign.com/3053406/how-apple-is-giving-design-a-bad-name
And if you don't know who Don Norman and Bruce Tognazzini are, they were the gods that preceded Jony Ive:
http://www.fastcodesign.com/user/don-norman-and-bruce-tognazzini
When they speak, people listen and take them seriously.
My, that's quite the praise. Anything interesting in particular that they've recently worked on? It seems to me that they're criticizing touch based GUI principles for not being exactly like keyboard plus mouse. Seems a bit narrow minded to me.
Didn't Apple at one point say touchscreen navigation on Surface like tablets is unergonomic and people should not be reaching up from the keyboard to touch the screen to navigate? So what makes touchscreen navigation on the iPad Pro ergonomic when it has a keyboard docked like shown above?
I agree that Apple has (largely) contradicted themselves on this one. I believe the quote extends to MacBooks as well - certainly it does in practice (based upon what they've done, design-wise) whether or not the original quote was regarding a desktop (does anyone have the quote?). Their refusal to put a trackpad on the iPad Pro's keyboard rather solidifies Apple's position on this.
Nevertheless, iOS is different, which is a good point - it's a dedicated touch OS. And the screen probably gets used much more often in a "~flat on the desk (or lap or whatever) orientation."
Plus the keys are very close screen, with no trackpad moving the keyboard farther away from the user. Still, I think accepting this design requires "a bit of a reach."
Didn't Apple at one point say touchscreen navigation on Surface like tablets is unergonomic and people should not be reaching up from the keyboard to touch the screen to navigate? So what makes touchscreen navigation on the iPad Pro ergonomic when it has a keyboard docked like shown above?
"it gives great demo...but after a while your arm just wants to fall off"
on a serious note, Apple released a keyboard accessory for the 1st gen iPad IIRC. it's meant for typing long documents and emails.
Further - that's not even the quote. When Steve wrote back to me (yes.. really) the exact quote was "Non issue. Just avoid holding it in that way."
Stylus is latin for an writing instrument that was used to etch in clay. The word is still used in english to mean an object used in writing, drawing, or engraving. Stylo means pen in French.
The idea that stylus is too rooted in technology is completely false. It's very much the opposite. It's a simple item that works very much like the apple "pencil." They just wanted it to sound different, and he had some stupid spin on it.
The idea that stylus is too rooted in technology is completely false. It's very much the opposite. It's a simple item that works very much like the apple "pencil." They just wanted it to sound different, and he had some stupid spin on it.
Exactly: iOS is touch-based OS, it can not even utilize a trackpad, because there is no mouse and no pointer.
People from the past, who wish a trackpad to the iPad pro keyboard still don't get it, - it's like demanding a steering wheel on a bicycle because a car has one
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To further - I think the use of the word "Pencil" is limiting for what it does. It's not a Pencil. They just made it "look" like one. But on a tablet, it can be a pen, pencil, marker, paint brush, crayon, stamp, etc.
FYI, the Apple Pencil is weighted and that prevents it from rolling. Moreover, the weight is distributed so that the pencil will always end showing the "Pencil" word facing upward.
It makes a lot of sense, particularly if you're going to replace a PC for lots of people. The default pointer on the PC was the mouse, on an iPad it's your finger. And that's plenty for most people. I've used a Wacom tablet for almost two decades because I've required more precision for graphic and illustration work. As usual, the applications on the iPad just need to catch up. I'm hopeful they will.
There really is no reason why the iPad, in time, shouldn't be able to replace a PC for almost everyone (not just "most"). What would be needed is A) for people to really figure out what their job is – not the series of tasks they perform or processes they follow, but their honest-to-goodness output and B) for software developers to make apps that are flexible enough or custom enough for people to get their output better.
Andreessen Horowitz analyst Benedict Evans has had some great thoughts on this. A strategist's job isn't to put together charts and graphs; there are dashboards that do that stuff now. Their job is to derive meaning from those dashboards. The thinking stuff, and there's no reason a tablet shouldn't be every bit as effective as a PC for that. If your job is to check people onto their flights, your job isn't to type a bunch of stuff in, it's to make sure people get to where they want to go. It feels like software developers are mostly making touch versions of legacy applications – software so large and broad that it optimizes on volume rather than being the best tool for the individual.
I feel like the missing piece is many more smaller teams of app development companies that are creating lower cost ad hoc tablet software for specific individual businesses – everything from food trucks to corner stores to teachers, shipment companies, hairdressers, etc. What's needed is to know PRECISELY what people need and to focus on the best UX for their outcome. Not so they feel busy or effective but so they actually are.
Maybe what's missing is something like hypercard so these businesses can get part of the way themselves without having to learn Swift.
There really is no reason why the iPad, in time, shouldn't be able to replace a PC for almost everyone (not just "most"). What would be needed is A) for people to really figure out what their job is – not the series of tasks they perform or processes they follow, but their honest-to-goodness output and B) for software developers to make apps that are flexible enough or custom enough for people to get their output better.
Andreessen Horowitz analyst Benedict Evans has had some great thoughts on this. A strategist's job isn't to put together charts and graphs; there are dashboards that do that stuff now. Their job is to derive meaning from those dashboards. The thinking stuff, and there's no reason a tablet shouldn't be every bit as effective as a PC for that. If your job is to check people onto their flights, your job isn't to type a bunch of stuff in, it's to make sure people get to where they want to go. It feels like software developers are mostly making touch versions of legacy applications – software so large and broad that it optimizes on volume rather than being the best tool for the individual.
I feel like the missing piece is many more smaller teams of app development companies that are creating lower cost ad hoc tablet software for specific individual businesses – everything from food trucks to corner stores to teachers, shipment companies, hairdressers, etc. What's needed is to know PRECISELY what people need and to focus on the best UX for their outcome. Not so they feel busy or effective but so they actually are.
Maybe what's missing is something like hypercard so these businesses can get part of the way themselves without having to learn Swift.
The Pro is going to be quite the revolution for pro audio and DJ software.
And it looks poised to replace the current tools in drawing and design: why stare at the pc screen when you can actually see what you're drawing under the Pencil? And with less latency?
People are grossly underestimating the iPad Pro.
And it looks poised to replace the current tools in drawing and design: why stare at the pc screen when you can actually see what you're drawing under the Pencil? And with less latency?
People are grossly underestimating the iPad Pro.
Of course - a trackpad on iOS would require an extensive change or re-design in the OS.Exactly: iOS is touch-based OS, it can not even utilize a trackpad, because there is no mouse and no pointer.
People from the past, who wish a trackpad to the iPad pro keyboard still don't get it or should get a Surface
I think your implication is that iOS works better with touch, because it's designed for it. Which is a good argument for Apple's position.
But with Tim now touting it as a replacement for "a PC," he's essentially saying a touch screen is appropriate for a PC running "PC applications" (whatever those are). He almost had to use the nebulous term "PC" here, lest he get himself into more trouble.
The real problem with their "pencil" is that I lose so many pens and pencils that I wonder of they disintegrated. I used to grab a pen with a plastic tip and retract the ball point to use when I lost my stylus on other devices I've had. I also don't see a place ON the ipad to store said "pencil." Do they have a "find my pencil" option?