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Jony Ive: Apple Watch and New iPhones Apple's 'Best Work Yet'

kwijbo said:
IMO its disingenuous at the very least and could even be seen as condescending. Since the introduction of GUIs devices have had the ability to reorganize/customize UI appearance. Why was this never a "marriage" of HW and SW on the Mac? iPhone? iPad?

Its almost a hint of insecurity to me - a "made up" feature to cover for other absences. Battery life has been mentioned and as a consequence of that, what about sleep tracking? That's a fairly important piece of the equation for me and if it has to charge every night its not possible.
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I think you're reading too much in to it. If that's the way he sees it and designs it through that lens then that's what it is. For me, that's a progressive lens - one many technology companies have struggled to ingrain in their cultures.

For me, I do see hardware and software getting more integrated - particularly with the advent of touch screens where we more directly interact with content; the physical presence of the device is significantly reduced in our interactions. It prioritises interaction and experience over an arbitrary (from a user perspective) separation of hardware and software.

Agreed on the sleep stuff. I use that on my fitbit every so often and find very useful.
 
Keirasplace said:
The review have been very positive, so "ugly" it is not. I don'T find it ugly at all, especially the top end one. Very very pretty!
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Are you referring to the shape? It's ugly as hell. I feel sorry for the tsp i comment that ivy made about this watch killing all Swiss watch maker.

The universal shape for all watch has always been round. It seem that you may like it. Chick's dig it. I get it!
 
nascimento said:
The quartz watch was popular because of the battery life, people were just fed up with having to wind or fiddle with mechanical watches.

No iWatch will ever be a success unless they can, at least, give it a few days life without having to recharge it.

(this goes for all of them not only the apple watch)

Oh and by the way that crown is nicely protruding from the watch and ready for a knock!!!!!!!
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You can't seriously compare winding up a watch to something that takes half a second as plugging it in.

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djorn2k said:
Are you referring to the shape? It's ugly as hell. I feel sorry for the tsp i comment that ivy made about this watch killing all Swiss watch maker.

The universal shape for all watch has always been round. It seem that you may like it. Chick's dig it. I get it!
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No... not for all watches at all. You get many, many square/rectangular watches. If you think all watches are universially round you obviously don't know a lot about them. Yes the majority are perhaps round but to say all is just bonkers. And also, look at the reason they are round: their only practical function is to display time. A clock face is round. Why wouldn't they make normal watches round most of the time? It makes perfect sense practically. However the same is not the case for a smart watch at all as they have many other uses.
 
keysofanxiety said:
Jony is so up himself it hurts to watch (pun intended). The Apple Watch is an exercise in self-indulgence and adds absolutely nothing innovative, new or practical to the wearable market.
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Heard the same about the iPad, the iPhone, the iPod...
 
CJM said:
People here really hating on someone who traditionally does not like speaking to press. Give the man a break.

As for the watch... We'll see. V1 Apple products usually have great ideas but leave something to be desired. Further refinement will make it awesome.
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Oh No! You did not just say that!
Please don't be in denial. If a company is referring to their best work in 25 years and here you are at trying to justifying that this release is not up to par. They could have waited a little longer? Oh wait. Investor might not agree.
 
Zodiac.mj said:
So many questions, no rush for me to get it. Something has changed. Is it me, or is it Apple, I'm not sure at the moment.
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I like that buddy; it's a good comment. I really think these keynotes should make you go, man I need that. I think it's sad that this is the Watch Apple has come up with and I think a lot of people are feeling that.

I can't help but think Apple is becoming a bloated mess of a company - what we saw with Microsoft back in the day. At some point Apple stopped being hungry.
 
djorn2k said:
Are you referring to the shape? It's ugly as hell. I feel sorry for the tsp i comment that ivy made about this watch killing all Swiss watch maker.

The universal shape for all watch has always been round. It seem that you may like it. Chick's dig it. I get it!
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I honestly don't care what shape it is - it just shouldn't look like an uncomfortable lump on someones wrist - which it currently does.

It doesn't make a design statement, there is nothing striking about the lines or shape, conversely it doesn't echo the lines of the arm and wrist. Its not sleek or stylish. Its a thing, devoid of all aesthetic or sympathy to its use and function. Just a shrunken iPad or rounded Nano. How on earth did this pass muster with Ive.

Side note: Noticed that the BBC shut down their comments section re news on the iWatch after just an hour - that's odd!
 
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Wow! If Apple can get this everywhere, it'll be a huge cash cow for them. I'm a little disheartened that they've said it's starting only in the US because we already have all the contactless technology here in the UK so there's really no reason why it can't be available here as well. Also, I seem to recall iTunes Radio starting in the US and nearly 2 years later, it still isn't available in the UK. Really hoping something as useful as :apple:Pay doesn't take years to come here.
 
I should say that I am in the camp that finds the overall Apple Watch design quite funky and fresh. :cool:

But I still see these devices as utterly pointless with 1 day battery life, and I seriously think they made the watches GUI in 5 minutes flat and that scrolling crown is a daft idea, and some of its features are pointless gimmicks people will be bored off after 5 minutes.
 
Your mileage may vary, but to me also the new iPhone is no design milestone: the bands, big bezels, etc. Maybe Jony has reached his peak already and from now it is downhill - but to give him the benefit of the doubt, one reason why he looks uncomfortable in the video is, because he knows the watch will be criticized by many for its bulky clunkiness.

I would bet that if it had been up to Ive, he would have not designed and realized this disaster of a product, because the technology (namely battery, logical boards) is not there yet. If they thin out a phone so much, that the camera will protrude its shell then you can be assured that Jony would have made the watch not to look like soap bar. But probably he couldn't, because the electric components and battery life were dictating factors.

But the pressure was up on Apple and namely Tim Cook to come up with something new, so the watch was forced into reality.
 
I'm a little bit confused right now..

Part of me really loves Apple, their brilliance and love for details, userbility etc., and I look forward to get the new iPhone

But a part of me is also disgusted by the constant FANTASTIC AMAZING GORGEOUS UNBELIEVABLE INCREDIBLE wordings and ecstatic party with U2's uninspired music praised as "IS THAT THE BEST SONG YOU'VE EVER HEARD IN YOUR LIFE OR WHAT!?!?"

That does not make the product itself bad.. it's just a weird feeling

Am I losing my religion, or waking up? :eek:
 
Burger Thing said:
Your mileage may vary, but to me also the new iPhone is no design milestone: the bands, big bezels, etc. Maybe Jony has reached his peak already and from now it is downhill - but to give him the benefit of the doubt, one reason why he looks uncomfortable in the video is, because he knows the watch will be criticized by many for its bulky clunkiness.

I would bet that if it had been up to Ive, he would have not designed and realized this disaster of a product, because the technology (namely battery, logical boards) is not there yet. If they thin out a phone so much, that the camera will protrude its shell then you can be assured that Jony would have made the watch not to look like soap bar. But probably he couldn't, because the electric components and battery life were dictating factors.

But the pressure was up on Apple and namely Tim Cook to come up with something new, so the watch was forced into reality.
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Nope.

I’m not sure there was any market pressure on Apple to come up with a 6.Xmm phone with a protruding camera instead of a 7.Xmm phone without a protruding camera.
 
If I buy the sport watch it will only be for sport I can not see myself wearing it full time. I haven't worn a watch for years and this watch doesn't change my view it's actually terrible looking and looks stupid on the two of them.
 
Apple Watch = Microsoft Zune.

I just don't think there is a market for any smart watch. Hardly anyone wears watches anymore and those who do only do for aesthetic reasons. I occasionally wear my Citizen Watch when entertaining new clients. But if someone asked me if I knew the time--I wouldn't look at my watch because the time is wrong. I am too lazy to fix the time because I only wear it because it looks nice.

Even Steve had some flops. Remember the iPod BoomBox (iPod Hi-Fi)? They even had a Big Announcement event which was a huge letdown. Live & learn.

People are so critical of others'. If you applied that same level of criticism to yourself you'd probably not like yourself very much.
 
H2SO4 said:
Nope.

I’m not sure there was any market pressure on Apple to come up with a 6.Xmm phone with a protruding camera instead of a 7.Xmm phone without a protruding camera.
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????

That is not why I meant.

The pressure was up on Apple to come up with a new product (category). Hence the watch.
 
Deepshade said:
I honestly don't care what shape it is - it just shouldn't look like an uncomfortable lump on someones wrist - which it currently does.

It doesn't make a design statement, there is nothing striking about the lines or shape, conversely it doesn't echo the lines of the arm and wrist. Its not sleek or stylish. Its a thing, devoid of all aesthetic or sympathy to its use and function. Just a shrunken iPad or rounded Nano. How on earth did this pass muster with Ive.
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I totally agree
 
colmaclean said:
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Is he wrestling an invisible bear?
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Nope. A visible one with red strips.... :roll eyes:

On a serious note, I really love this watch. The more I see it, the more I want it.

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Apple Watch is nice, I was honestly expecting something more revolutionary and similar to band-style mock-ups, though. iPhone 6 & iPhone 6 Plus Space Gray and Gold & White are great, including their contrasting antenna lines. I only dislike the antenna lines on the Silver & White, the light gray is just a bad color contrast in my opinion. My only real complaint about iPhone 6 is that it isn't 7.1 like the iPhone 6 Plus, and therefore doesn't have the camera Optical Image Stabilization. At least they both have the Cinema Stabilization.

View official Watch and iPhone images: http://www.apple.com/watch/ & http://www.apple.com/iphone-6/
 
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