I love his voice
especially when he says 'beautifully, unapologetically plastic' in describing the iPhone 5c.
ivey boy probably used similar language in foisting the flat look of iOS 7 on the apple executives
I love his voice
do you know how long it takes to make a product like the iPhone? they don't just think of something and start shipping them the next month.![]()
You have earned praise for your hardware design, but your first attempt at software design has been an abysmal failure.
And yet over 80% of iOS devices are running this "abysmal failure". And we have yet to hear about any revolt from Apple software engineers/designers over this "abysmal failure". If it existed, no doubt it would leak and the Business Insider and 9to5Macs of the world would be all over it.
But why? Change for the sake of change? Because one is bored? The iPhone is a great product. It simply works well and the design is well suited to its function. Look at what the latest iPhone can do compared to the first one.
I wouldn't expect them to make a game changing product every year, but it's been about 7 making a 9.7" iPod touch is not considered an innovation.
Two words: 8MP Camera....
Ive also directed the effort behind iOS 7, which was released last September and featured a completely new design in addition to various other tweaks.
Just because 80% of iOS devices are running doesn't mean they like it. Most of the updates were forced upon users and some updated without the foreknowledge that iOS 7 would be a drastic overhaul. Most people that I've talked to absolutely hate the update while some are indifferent but none of them have praised it. Device usage is a pathetic attempt to downplay the iOS 7 backlash (and believe me there is a lot of it still going around). I bet if you gave all the people running iOS 7 the option to downgrade, then you could see who actually likes it. Numbers may not lie but they don't equate to opinions and emotions.
I think he should have already quit. I have yet to see another innovative product from apple since 2007 with the iPhone. Even then, the iPhone has kept the same design que and really has yet to make a drastic design change (in my opinion)
Two words: 8MP Camera....
Dear Mr Ive,
You are entitled to be a hardware designer. But your experience at being a graphic designer requires an entirely different approach .... it's not how an iDevice feels in the user's hand, but it's how it works and functions. And that is where you should leave the graphic design software element of the iPhone and other devices to the professionals.
You have earned praise for your hardware design, but your first attempt at software design has been an abysmal failure. Learn what you are best at, and give others the chance to be the best at what they are.
In other words, get rid of grey type on white backgrounds and learn that there are other weights to Neue Helvetica than Light and Extra Light and Ultra Light and Almot Invisible Light.
-- Signed, a Book Typographer who knows the difference between readability, legibility, and just plain common sense.
I think he should have already quit. I have yet to see another innovative product from apple since 2007 with the iPhone. Even then, the iPhone has kept the same design que and really has yet to make a drastic design change (in my opinion)
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And if apple could remove those "under LSD" icons....
"It's not just about aesthetics... Our success is a victory for purity, integrity - for giving a damn." His thoughts on Apple designs and ideas that appear elsewhere? "It's theft. What's copied isn't just a design, it's thousands and thousands of hours of struggle... It takes years of investment, years of pain."
Sure Johnny...
1960s Braun Products Hold the Secrets to Apple's Future - http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-apples-future
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Apparently "innovation" is publically announcing a bunch of half-baked products, charging $1500 for them, and then having them never see the light again.
you do realise MP is not image quality right?
But another angle there is that in the U.S. in particular, Samsung was able to work the Galaxy line into people's hands at a time when Apple couldn't sell the iPhone on networks not named AT&T. If Apple would've been able to sell the iPhone on more carriers earlier on in the U.S. and other countries throughout the world, I doubt Android would have nearly the steam going for it as it has now. They might've gained a lot of marketshare in the very low end of the market in parts of the world, but that wouldn't have pushed the OS forward like marketshare that generates revenue in the overall ecosystem does. Considering Android has struggled with that even despite getting the jump on Apple on a lot of carriers despite subpar offerings, you have to wonder what things would look like right now if not for so many exclusive agreements.
And at least in the U.S., if the iPhone went to Verizon and Sprint around when Samsung was first launching the Galaxy line and the HTC Evo was the hot Android phone and the Motorola Droid was in there somewhere, Android and the OEMs wouldn't have a prayer in America. I don't think anyone at that point believed for a second that those earlier top Android devices were remotely as good as the iPhone, but too many were not about to head over to AT&T, especially with the ever-present network issues. Again, you just have to look at how much Android has struggled to become a more legitimate competitor in terms of the ecosystem and apps and that's with the early carrier advantages.
I don't think the world revolves around the U.S., but I do think that a crushing victory in America for Apple would've mostly killed any steam developers had to design apps for Android, and that would've made Android more of a non-starter among buyers that are actually looking for a smartphone and not a slightly-smarter feature phone.
I think it's pathetic that Samsung has so shamelessly copied the iPhone over the years as much as more Apple users tend to, but the more I've thought about it, the more I tend to think Apple brought it on themselves by getting stuck in exclusive deals that dramatically limited their ability to sell the iPhone to more people when the competition was much weaker. Ultimately, competition is probably for the best when it comes down to it, but the way in which it developed at Android has been pretty annoying and again, shameless. I'd rather have seen Android die and Windows 7 Mobile perhaps take off a bit more with people. At least they didn't copy, and the whole situation probably would've turned out a whole lot friendlier and complementary than the situation that's developed with Android.
Just because 80% of iOS devices are running doesn't mean they like it. Most of the updates were forced upon users and some updated without the foreknowledge that iOS 7 would be a drastic overhaul. Most people that I've talked to absolutely hate the update while some are indifferent but none of them have praised it. Device usage is a pathetic attempt to downplay the iOS 7 backlash (and believe me there is a lot of it still going around). I bet if you gave all the people running iOS 7 the option to downgrade, then you could see who actually likes it. Numbers may not lie but they don't equate to opinions and emotions.
I apologize if you found the post to be stupid. I thought it was actually pretty well thought out. I guess that's what happens when you have your own opinion, apple fanboys rage![]()
Ive pretends to be innovative and it's clearly not the case, he was inspired by Braun design... and as Jobs mentioned 'Good artists copy; great artists steal'... so who is honest here ? Ive or Jobs ?
And yet over 80% of iOS devices are running this "abysmal failure". And we have yet to hear about any revolt from Apple software engineers/designers over this "abysmal failure". If it existed, no doubt it would leak and the Business Insider and 9to5Macs of the world would be all over it.
Really?
What's your definition of innovative? I think the iPad was innovative in the way that it changed the entire PC market. Also, do you only judge Apple's innovation by new categories of devices? What about improvements on current devices? What about how far the Mac has come since 2007? How about my light as a feather macbook air with an aluminum unibody case with the best trackpad on the entire market? Find me a PC alternative of a MBA that isn't garbage. You are a perfect example of an ADHD society. You don't get new market changing product categories coming out every 2 years. Maybe once a decade. It's as if you want a holographic iPhone with a video projector and an ever lasting battery. This ain't Willy Wonka and the goddamn chocolate factory. This is real life technology that takes time and a lot of planning to create. I'd rather them take their time than release crap, like certain Korean companies which shall remain nameless.
Ok then, 51 million iPhones sold in the last quarter and over 20 million iPads. If iOS 7 was that awful why would people be buying new phones with that software on it? Word of mouth alone would put people off it. Plus I know several people who have not upgraded because they hate change and don't want to deal with it. So this idea that everyone is forced to upgrade is bogus. And as far as not being able to downgrade that's been true of all iOS releases. It's nothing unique to iOS 7.is this a joke?
- it force downloaded on people and can take up to half your space if not installed
- you cannot downgrade
- if you want to be compatible/future proof and take advantage of some apps and new core features there is nothing you can do but upgrade
using % installed as a measuring stick is like believing in the election results in countries like russia