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Speaking as an Englishman this character is an embarrassment and the fact he was knighted is inexplicable and only serves to point up the outrageous misuses that have crept into the system. Apple has descended into an abyss of self-congratulation, myopic "vision" and insularity. Ive is just another maggot in the Apple.

Yep, well spotted eagle-eye. He's a complete failure.

:rolleyes:
 
Jony is taking on Steve's role in finishing the new campus, consulting with designers & architects.
That is going to be a very iconic building.
Jony will retire when that project is complete I predict.
 
Speaking as an Englishman this character is an embarrassment and the fact he was knighted is inexplicable and only serves to point up the outrageous misuses that have crept into the system. Apple has descended into an abyss of self-congratulation, myopic "vision" and insularity. Ive is just another maggot in the Apple.

What? As an Englishman I am embarrassed you have no idea why someone is knighted.

Actually looking at All 110 of your hateful one sentance posts. You clearly have a massive chip on our shoulder. Perhaps you should get out more and stop being so Jealous of other people's success and actually do something yourself or are you a Paid Shill?

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So they're going to split UI and hardware design again? Not sure if I like the sound of that.

Well I am fairly sure it was split under Ive already. He's still at the top of that tree - just with 2 minions ( albeit very experienced minions ) between him and the paperwork
 
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For all their design savvy, that bench and table in the picture look incredibly uncomfortable

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Jony is taking on Steve's role in finishing the new campus, consulting with designers & architects.
That is going to be a very iconic building.
Jony will retire when that project is complete I predict.


He'd only quit if stops enjoying his work in my opinion.
Maybe he came to close to is with all the "admin" he had

Ho Hum, life in the real world hey Jony
 
What? As an Englishman I am embarrassed you have no idea why someone is knighted.

Actually looking at All 110 of you hateful one sentance posts. You clearly have a massive chip on our shoulder. Perhaps you should get out more and stop being so Jealous of other people's success and actually do something yourself or are you a Paid Shill?

I couldn't agree more with this. This guy pollutes this forum with non-stop hate speech about Apple and its management without adding anything constructive or alternative.
 
So, are the fugly iOS and the new Mac OS fixed?

So do you have anything useful to actually say here? Show me your idea of good design and what is wrong with OSX in your eyes?

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I couldn't agree more with this. This guy pollutes this forum with non-stop hate speech about Apple and its management without adding anything constructive or alternative.

oh look here's another one...

So, are the fugly iOS and the new Mac OS fixed?

It's like me going on a BMW forum (when I have a range rover) and slating everything they do for no reason at all. I've no idea what goes through their heads... It's like they are not wired correctly. I wonder if they do the same on Linux forums?

"I MUST GET MY POINTLESS HATRED ACROSS"
 
Not under Steve jobs watch! Oh wait! :confused:
Seriously this was long over due.
Love him or hate him, this man deserves the credit of this title.

It's about time.

######:apple:
 
Jony Ive, the man who has single handedly taken apple computers from being a computer company, to a disposable fashion accessory company.

Don't get me wrong, he is making apple a LOT of money, and in that respect props to him and apple, they are doing what a company should be doing, making money, but he has also destroyed the ability of the computing side of the company, that they no longer seem to care about, making hardware that is to be of no use to anyone but casual users, there was a time that Mac OS and apple hardware was a robust , and sustainable workhorse, now however they overheat and throttle under load because heat vents and fan ports are "ruining" Jony Ives design aesthetics,

Steve Job and Jony Ive were needed for balance, Steve demanded that the end product and the user experience to be seamless and fluid wrapped in a superb design, with Jony Ive its all form over function.

Just my Opinion, one of someone who has had to switch back to windows and a PC, because the Apple computers i am now looking at to replace my aging kit are no longer up to the job of actual work.

I respect your opinion but I also disagree in your opinion. Why can't other users be this nice?
 
Attention Apple Employees:

When taking official apple photos, please remember to wear your watch.

Thank you and continue on,
 
oh look here's another one...

Hah, I was editing my post but it did not save unfortunately. In general I was supporting your view and would prefer not be cast in the same corner as the random hate generators.

IMHO there doesn't need to be an alternative drive behind this "promotion" of Ive other than that design is becoming ever more important within Apple and that the responsibility for design has become so broad that it makes sense to distribute operational responsibility over a number of shoulders.

Of course it could mean that either of the two new guys is a future successor and that the structure is now in place for them to be groomed, but that could be years away.

Not everything is a conspiracy as so many here always assume. Just like the logo of the big events in hindsight doesn't correlate to a fraction of the suspicions that people had before the event.
 
Can anyone make out from these awful resolution images what watches they're wearing?

I'm hazarding a guess at Cook wearing a SS with blue leather loop, and Ive the Edition with classic buckle.

Definitely looks like Cook is wearing an SS with the blue leather loop. I think Ive is wearing an Edition but I can't really tell if the strap is a sport or the BCB.
 
Whatever this means - whatever Jony has planned, I think some thanks are in order.

Thank you Jony for all the years of dedication to your craft. Through your passion for industrial design, the world of technology has become a more connected, prettier, and well thought out place.

You've even challenged those who never cared about design into stepping up their own game - and have you have won, Jony. Every tech firm cares about design now - it's their top priority!


Thank you, on behalf of all of the Apple Fan community :) :apple::apple:

You know he doesn't read this right? Your post is like yelling at the car in front of you on the road, telling them to go faster! They can't hear you.
 
Definitely looks like Cook is wearing an SS with the blue leather loop. I think Ive is wearing an Edition but I can't really tell if the strap is a sport or the BCB.

That's funny, not saying a guy can't change his mind... but Cook is always touting his SS with White sport band.
 
I hope this means there's a job opening for a Senior Icon Design Officer with Apple ;-) I don't know what they were smoking but it has gone from bad to worse with their icons.
 
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new product leak?? Apple Hardhats!!
 
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Uhm, I think its you that hasn't paid attention. It has been brought up multiple times, in books and in blogs, that he wants to move back to britain and wants his children to have a British education (this is common knowledge from reliable sources)...Jony Ive even went public a few years ago when the rumour mill all thought he would leave, assuring people that he will still work for apple for the time being. Of course this new role is a more overseeing role and he is still as important. But, it is also a transition role to let new players become a bigger part of the company (something that is important for companies that doesn't want to be completely reliant on one person for a task). So no matter how you look at it, this is all good News.

No he has never said that and he specifically said in the New Yorker that he and his wife had no intention of moving back to England. Hence why they sold their house over there and bought a $17M mansion in San Francisco.
 
No idea. But maybe this will happen now that Ivy has a C-level title.

I also think that this might be a sign of possible succession for Cook. Not that I think Cook is going anywhere. But there may be a view that Apple is better served with a visionary designer in charge than a stellar manager. Maybe Ivy will never be CEO because he doesn't have the finance background. But he certainly is making some huge decisions. It is about time for him to get the right title.

Get ready for other companies to copy this. If you claim that design is important for your product, then why doesn't the head designer have a big time corporate title?

I doubt he'd ever want to be CEO but Cook could have easily reduced his day to day managerial stuff without a promotion or creating a new C-level position. That suggests to me this isn't a one foot out the door thing it's a those car rumors are more than just rumors thing.
 
Ive has always been the worlds best hardware designer.... but not so great at software design, which to be fair is a completely different thing.

Just because your awesome at industrial / hardware design does not mean that your good at all kinds of design...

Design at Apple has always been very collaborative, but after Jobs I feel like they were looking so desperately for a replacement figurehead who could be everything to everyone that they burned Ive with way too much.

Hardware & Software design were always split because they require very different talents. Its like asking a cabinet maker to craft a beautiful oil painting.
 
I doubt he'd ever want to be CEO but Cook could have easily reduced his day to day managerial stuff without a promotion or creating a new C-level position. That suggests to me this isn't a one foot out the door thing it's a those car rumors are more than just rumors thing.

I think it also creates a corporate structure that is closer to what Apple actually was under Jobs. The reality of Apple was that Jobs and Ivy had lunch every day. That kind of access to the CEO kind of meant that Ivy had more influence than his job title would indicate. I think Cook and Ivy probably want to continue in that vein and make it clear to Apple and the world that this is what is happening. But I haven't heard that they have the type of relationship where they are eating lunch together every day. So they will construct it in some fashion.
 
Hmm, Ive wears the same Wallabees I had when I was 18yo. :cool:


Way to visit a construction site (while wearing a hard hat :p)... :D
 
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