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Jony Ive Officially Takes 'Chief Design Officer' Title at Apple

AngerDanger said:
Somewhere, Scott Forstall is bitterly whittling a phone out of wood.
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It's been said countless times before by people much smarter than me, but I would love to read the first intelligent argument of why an overly simplistic and minimalistic UI that strips down anything even remotely resembling real world appearance is better than a UI more resembling real-life? Wouldn't that also mean that the real world should be as stripped-down and minimalistic as possible? Paintings on the wall with no frames? Pool tables with a white Formica playing area instead of green felt? 21,000 paint colors in Home Depot, all of them being shades of white?

I do fear of the continued influence of Jony Ive in Apple design. IMHO He is not as good a designer as people dream him to be as he is good at somehow maintaining so much power.
 
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Rogifan said:
How does this confirm anything when according to John Gruber the new VP of UI led the redesigns of iOS 7 OS X Yosemite and the Apple Watch? If you hate the software redesigns then blame Alan Dye as he was/is the leader for all of them.
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Thanks for the info, I guess I need to do some research, you're right. Everything I've read since iOS 7 came out was that it was the miracle baby of Jony Ive who took over UI.
 
he is too fat now , he can't run all jobs at 1 times , software + hardware + design ... all he do now , sit and let his soilder take care for him , same as manager in manufactury ,,,

he know he already has design for iphone 7.8.9
he know apple make more money every year
he know he will be next CEO soon

King Of The World:D:D:D:D:D
 
JCrz said:
“I think the most diverse group will produce the best product, I firmly believe that.”
—Tim Cook

Yep, sure looks like a very diverse group there...
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Meritocracy should be the only criteria for hiring and promotion. And as far as that statement by Tim Cook... well, it's the sort of crap that you come up when the politically correct gangsters put a gun to your head. Those shakedown artists need to disappear.
 
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Tozovac said:
It's been said countless times before by people much smarter than me, but I would love to read the first intelligent argument of why an overly simplistic and minimalistic UI that strips down anything even remotely resembling real world appearance is bad? Wouldn't that also mean that the real world should be as stripped-down and minimalistic as possible? Paintings on the wall with no frames? Pool tables with a white Formica playing area instead of green felt? 21,000 paint colors in Home Depot, all of them being shades of white?

I do fear of the continued influence of Jony Ive in Apple design. He is not as good a designer as people dream him to be as he is good at somehow maintaining so much power.
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TL;DR jk
You forgot the 'IMO' in your post because I for one love his designs . . . IMHO
 
Traverse said:
Let's get ready. The amount of hatred toward Jonny Ive will be astounding.

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I think he really is great at hardware design, maybe the best in the industry. I don't care much for his software design though.
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Yep. Irrationally, unnecessarily. Do a SINGLE thing that irks certain users, and they'll call for your head, ignoring every previous thing you've done that put a smile on their faces.

Also, it should be noted that iOS UI was a TEAM effort. Led by Alan Dye. With oversight by Jony. Jony didn't design a single thing in iOS. He just oversaw the initiative.
 
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Tozovac said:
Thanks for the info, I guess I need to do some research, you're right. Everything I've read since iOS 7 came out was that it was the miracle baby of Jony Ive who took over UI.
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Well it was Ive who pulled Alan Dye (and others) to create a new UI design team that eventually merged with the old UI design team when Greg Christie retired.
 
TMRJIJ said:
TL;DR jk
You forgot the 'IMO' in your post because I for one love his designs . . . IMHO
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Fixed. :) thanks for not jumping on my rant. I'm not trying to flame bait. I'm just really unappreciative of The minimalistic design change starting with iOS 7. I find Apple is still a better alternative for me then windows or android. Used to be the only option, now it's just still the best option of the alternatives.

I continue to not be a fan of Jony Ive design tho. I think he's overrated. Safe to say, most of us use our mobile phones as much as we use our shoes. Maybe more so. There's a reason our shoes are not made of easily breakable glass. Know what I'm saying?
 
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Tozovac said:
It's been said countless times before by people much smarter than me, but I would love to read the first intelligent argument of why an overly simplistic and minimalistic UI that strips down anything even remotely resembling real world appearance is bad? Wouldn't that also mean that the real world should be as stripped-down and minimalistic as possible? Paintings on the wall with no frames? Pool tables with a white Formica playing area instead of green felt? 21,000 paint colors in Home Depot, all of them being shades of white?

I do fear of the continued influence of Jony Ive in Apple design. He is not as good a designer as people dream him to be as he is good at somehow maintaining so much power.
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I think you meant to write 'is good' considering you're questioning how simplistic UI can be that. The answer to that question would be, in my opinion, that it's not good. There are a few areas of the iOS 7+ UI that aren't too bad, but those are the highlights. I find the rest more difficult to navigate.

You might be interested in this article for the comparison images between überflat design and actual gradients.
 
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AngerDanger said:
I think you meant to write 'is good' considering you're questioning how simplistic UI can be that. The answer to that question would be, in my opinion, that it's not good. There are a few areas of the iOS 7+ UI that aren't too bad, but those are the highlights. I find the rest more difficult to navigate.

You might be interested in this article for the comparison images between überflat design and actual gradients.
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Thank you! Yes that was my mistake. I corrected it above, for better or for worse. I'm looking forward to reviewing that article, thank you. I apologize to anybody who feels this kind of discussion is not welcome in our thread regarding Apple management. But thank you for being hospitable. Besides my personally not enjoying what I feel to be functional steps backwards starting with ios7, I feel it's amazingly amateurish and shortsighted for a major company like Apple to have so thoroughly removed 3D-esque and skeumorphic cues as design options. Kudos to Instagram for continuing to buck that trend. A really extreme person might even call it design racism. :) thanks again for that article, I really enjoy reading articles like that, I'll save that for Friday.
 
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Cole Slaw said:
Getting tired of Jony Ive and his thinner at all costs design philosophy.
Wish he would just go away.
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How do you know that's not coming from marketing? Take the iPad Air 2...split screen multitasking not ready, force touch not ready...what does Schiller get on stage and talk about? A slightly faster CPU? I think some of this stuff is driven by marketing. Plus when Schiller was on John Gruber's podcast he vehemently defended the new MacBook. And it wasn't just corporate PR speak either.
 
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Wow according to Richard Howarth's bio he started working at Apple in 1996. :eek:
 
Tozovac said:
Oh joy. Now to go along with my iPhone's boring unintuitive art and squinty hard to read thin blueish grey font on darkish grey background, perhaps Apple stores will replace the tables and Geniuses with an empty white space room with no intuitive door in front - instead you have to swipe and swipe and press and swipe to "discover" the door, and then let users rely on Siri to self-diagnose their phones.

"Function Over Form" & "It Just Works," RIP 2013.

Stake in the heart, 2015.
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Exactly. Hate my iDevices since then. And won't buy any new one.
 
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