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I've a series 1 and I actually think the series 4 is quite nice. What's holding me back is the lack of apps. I don't know of any killer apps for the watch

there will be none, Apple develops this product in the completely wrong direction. health is a dead horse, and they make them selve only embarassing with their words.

the right direction would be a complete iphone replacement. you would gain health immediately not staring at the screen. they need perferct word recon, and siri - navigation with watch only works over voice.
you can pay with the watch. you can make phone calls - they need to find a way to integrate a small small earpod, for more personal phone calls.
and the watch must be completely independent from iphone. and all the junk must be removed, like ekg, and stuff. keep it simple - keep it mean and clean!
 
there will be none, Apple develops this product in the completely wrong direction. health is a dead horse, and they make them selve only embarassing with their words.

the right direction would be a complete iphone replacement. you would gain health immediately not staring at the screen. they need perferct word recon, and siri - navigation with watch only works over voice.
you can pay with the watch. you can make phone calls - they need to find a way to integrate a small small earpod, for more personal phone calls.
and the watch must be completely independent from iphone. and all the junk must be removed, like ekg, and stuff. keep it simple - keep it mean and clean!
Are you high on something? “Like ekg, and stuff”. What other stuff? All of the health-related stuff? Or does that include the GPS? That’s what the other watches in the lineup are there for, duh. And do you seriously think that a) Apple will not keep an EKG by default on all of their watches if it’s cheap enough for it to not make a price difference or b) if it’s an eternally expensive technology (I seriously doubt it, because of economies of scale), they wouldn’t keep offering a cheaper version without it?

Also on the subject of the AirPods: how, pray tell, can they make them smaller without seriously compromising ergonomics and/or battery life? I don’t think the laws of physics work quite like you think they do… And besides, with all the complaining about how easy to lose they supposedly are (they aren’t, as they indeed grab onto your ears and have no cable to be tugged from), should Apple really make them any smaller?

Oh, and as for the Watch being completely independent from the iPhone… It’s now as independent as the iPhone was when the App Store was launched in iTunes; you can use it independently, install apps from the phone but then run them independently, and load it up with music and photos (or use Apple Music and iCloud Photo Library) independently. The only thing you can’t do with it yet are true OTA updates, as you must be tethered to the iPhone for those to happen, and the only reason I can see for you to be mad at that slight shortcoming may be the fact you live somewhere where even a second-hand iPhone 5S is stupidly expensive, and/or that you suffer from a serious smartphone addiction and can’t even have one in a drawer at home…
 
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Offtopic: I never liked this photo of Jony Ive they always use. It looks like he accidentally **** his pants and is ashamed.
 
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Every bone in my body tells me this is very significant.
Every bone in my body tells me if this was very significant then why the hell are you restricting access to such a device and not make it available to those with android handsets or iPads?
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I love the Apple keynote videos that use Ive's voice. Whoever writes those deserves a raise. Very well done. With that said, a lot of Ive says outside of those videos on the press is mostly BS or hyping nothing. Either way, I am glad Apple has him.
What I hate is the Apple voice, that genre of speaking that is overly slow that only sounds normal when you play it back at 1.25 to 1.5 speed.
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People don’t want to admit this because they want it to fail. They want everything under Tim Cook to fail.
Not everyone sees the need for a watch and they are entitled to their opinion, would you rather this site was an echo chamber?
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That’s Your opinion. If it’s too expensive for you, no problem, don’t buy it.
You do know the difference between overpriced and affordability?

When I got my Apple watch, I got it even though I thought it was overpriced, at something like $565 AUD.
Looking at the site today, I now see that the 4 costs $650/$800. Just pure greed.
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Then, Goodbye ECG function...
Why do you say that? Only the electrodes need to be metal?
 
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Apple watch is the new phone. Will definitely get it for the EKG, Ceramic bottom and Water Resistance. Look for Apple to drop iPhone moniker next year and just go with Phone. I like the red circle in the crown for the Cellular enabled ones.
 
Where is the Apple Watch Air? I don't need all the health and movement tracking and LTE. Just need notifications and apps and a week battery life without all that baggage inside. Could easily be priced at $149 or less.
 
Where is the Apple Watch Air? I don't need all the health and movement tracking and LTE. Just need notifications and apps and a week battery life without all that baggage inside. Could easily be priced at $149 or less.
I am sure it shouldn't be that hard to find discounted versions of older apple watches in shops.
 
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I bet he was so happy recording the voiceover... he finally got to say something was "thinner" again! (.34 on the youtube vid) He kinda downplays the inflection but that had to feel good.
 
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Wish they could improve battery life!! Fall detection is useless if it’s on a charging stand !!

Agree with this... I can go several days with my Gear S3 (LTE version) without a charge. I normally put it on the charging stand while I'm taking a shower or something because I like to wear it overnight. That way it tracks my sleep and I also like the feature of it vibrating on my wrist to wake me up. It just does that automatically if I've set an alarm on my phone or the watch. The extra life is great if I forget to charge it or on a long haul flight where I don't have an easy place to charge it because I'm in airports and planes for 30+ hours.

I actually turned off watching the keynote when Jony's video came on. I can't take that guy. For the small portion of the keynote I saw, I think they must take the script for the last one and change a few words as they use the same lingo and go through the same stuff... other than the silly woman running with the remote. Tim made it to his second sentence before using the word magical.

I do applaud them for breaking ground on new features like fall detection and ECG. For a portion of the user base, those things will be of interest. I'm not sure its an "every bone in my body" kind of thing. Overall the watch is just a small incremental update.
 
Until it can monitor my blood sugar with out a sensor that needs to be changed every 10 days (Type 1 diabetic here) and make calls with out the help of a phone, I'm going to stick with my AquaRacer.

Maybe Jony and Ajit could get together and have some sort of ultimate douchebagoffathon to see who comes out on top.
 
One last time: Tim Cook is the CEO, not the designer, not the engineer. That's why you have staff in those positions. He's responsible for running the company, not whatever it is that you regard as "innovations".

As far as your statistical model, it's BS. First, those with an afib indication or other anomaly will go see a cardiologist in a clinic, by appointment, not the ED. And it won't take "decades" of "double-blind studies" to establish the benefit of early warning, any more than it would take a cardiologist decades to diagnose an irregular heartbeat.


A) He is ultimately responsible for every BS Apple produces. Every badly designed product. Every product delay, every final released but bugfull version of software. It is him and him only. If other people fail at Apple, he should have fired them before they failed. This is why he is CEO and no one else. This is why he is paid a lot money. Period.

b) Again, this is false by 100%. If the Apple watch warns an average -but health aware- individual, who is not a cardiologist, an alarm that says: "You have afib, see a doctor" , the user will with 100% certainty immediately seek help. If it is at night or on weekends or holidays, he will show up at the ER. If it is during daytime and he calls an office for an appointment, the secretary will tell him to immediately go to an ER if a new arrhythmia is just discovered, otherwise, in case of death, the remaining family members of that user can sue the flesh of this doctors bones for giving im an appointment for the next day...

We absolutely have NO idea, how this device works, we have no idea about the sensitivity and specificity of this method, at this time, nobody has. You probably don't know what these words mean, hell even former art student Ive has no clue what these words mean, just blah blah about all his bones... he is implicating, that Apple Watch buyers live longer. At this time, this intentional misinformation just to skyrocket sales is dangerous.
 
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He should do more Sport instead of visit press events or say things like "In 12 months’ time, this object (iPhone X) will be able to do things that it can’t now.".

A year is over and what things can the iPhone X now better? Nothing.
 
I'm glad they added the fall sensor and the ECG. I hope they add something to read blood sugar level for diabetics soon. That would skyrocket sales of the watch.
 
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I love the Apple keynote videos that use Ive's voice. Whoever writes those deserves a raise. Very well done. With that said, a lot of Ive says outside of those videos on the press is mostly BS or hyping nothing. Either way, I am glad Apple has him.

Ive is becoming more & more like Ronald McDonald. Voice everywhere and speaking to a script on anything asked. Makes you wonder how much is he really involved in designing products anymore?!
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Looking forward to an Apple Watch in 10-15 years that can constantly monitor my vitals, warn me when I'm starting to come down sick, and stay connected to my doctor and emergency services in case something serious happens. Nearly like a tricorder but always running silently in the background.

And that basically replaces the iPhone using VR glasses or AR glasses as the display.
 
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