Putting words in my mouth there. Did I call him a Moron? No. Ive is a genius, but the transition is quite different. It's like asking a building engineer to try their hand at interior design.
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Jony Ive Pushing for 'Flat Design' in iOS 7 Amid Greater Hardware-Software Design Collaboration
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Putting words in my mouth there. Did I call him a Moron? No. Ive is a genius, but the transition is quite different. It's like asking a building engineer to try their hand at interior design.
I think it makes sense to not have all the settings in one place.
Take safari for instance. I feel it is okay to have the "clear cookies and history" in the settings - this way, no one can clear it by mistake or out of mischief, and it is not something you will be doing everyday anyways. However, I don't see why the option to go incognito isn't available in the safari app itself. If on a whim, my surfing habits demand that I don't wish to be tracked, I shouldn't have to dive deep into another app (settings); I should be able to enable/disable it from Safari itself.
Same for mail. Stuff like setting up accounts, enabling push and choosing what to sync are decisions you make just once (and leave it at that). I don't mind it being buried deep down, simply because I won't be touching them much, if at all. Better they be in the settings app rather than cluttering up the mail app itself.
Likewise, I am grateful for notifications consolidating all my apps, I wouldn't remember which apps I had that required notifications otherwise, and it is easier to monitor them all from one unified view, rather than go delving into each and every app.
I think Apple really needs to sit down and ask themselves "What are the settings people will need to toggle frequently and which will they likely not touch ever", then sort them out accordingly by app.
UI design is very different. If you look on sites like deviantart there are many great looking concepts, themes and all kinds of tweaks, but when you actaully try to use them they are not so good.
That's the difference with UI design. If it looks good doesn't mean it works good.
For example in my opinion Google Maps iOS app is a failure design wise. I hope Apple is not working in this direction.
I don't care about what the next iPhone itself brings in it. iOS 7 is going to be the best update in a long time.
Jony Ive saves us again
Wouldn't like to be in Jony's shoes right now. The expectations for iOS 7 are so unrealistically high that the man must be having sleepless nights or perhaps anxiety attacks, while trying to figure out how to deliver on all these expectations. The bane of being at the top.
Rising to the top is easier by far, than staying at the top.
AFAIK Steve had the final say on software design. There's even an infamous story about him ringing Greg Christie personally because he didn't like the shading on an app icon. He wasn't doing the designing himself but most likely had the final say on what went out the door. I'm assuming that's Ive's role now. But since the iOS HI guys worked for Forstall (and probably have strong opinions on UI design) Ive is taking it slow; no radical changes right now. Last thing Apple needs is a bunch of talented and veteran software engineers leaving the company.
I can't understand why so much praise is lavished upon Ive ... Apple deigns have stayed the same across all brands for many years with the main changes being a reduction in thickness only (which for the iMac has resulted in lost optical drives and the SD slot on the back (WTF!) ... Not to mention the 'chin' is still there! More recently, iPod designs look like children have designed them and iPhone's ... well, they scratch, they're boring and yes, the OS is old old old.
Ive might have drawn some good designs MANY years ago, but surely the credit should go to the engineers who actually designed and manufactured the products; their skill in giving Apple what they wanted ... Because anyone can draw pictures of pretty products, actually making them is a different thing!
Ive might have drawn some good designs MANY years ago, but surely the credit should go to the engineers who actually designed and manufactured the products; their skill in giving Apple what they wanted ... Because anyone can draw pictures of pretty products, actually making them is a different thing!
this just reminded me....could the Macbook Pros, and iMacs be suffering from anoxeria....a disease of becoming too thin....jk...but it really does speak to the lengths that apple will go just to make a device thinner....as this person has pointed out, there is a limit to how thin you can make a product until its form overcompensates for its function, the mbpro is a prime example of this...
Absolutely! Ive has done nothing but take the range backwards as far as function!!!!! You didn't by the way mention the kiddy range of iPod nano's .... Call that design!!!!!
Yeah because that's all Ive does is draw pretty pictures.
And I guess that's why Steve elevated him to SVP and Cook gave him even more responsibilities. Because he can draw pretty pictures. Because that's all industrial designers do. 
Well, have you ever seen the music video for Sir Mix-a-lot's "Baby Got Back"?
Ive wants to make iOS more like the opposite.
Actually, it's very much the "done thing". It's an honour but most recipients (who aren't up their own backside) underplay it. Or do you think Jony sent out a company-wide memo stating he was now to be referred to directly and indirectly as "Sir Jony"?
Back on topic, fairly obvious this iOS revamp will be a gradual evolution, so not sure what all the hysteria is about.
Flat enough? (Thanks to http://osxdaily.com/2012/02/13/if-apple-made-ios-in-1986-this-is-what-it-would-look-like/ )
As long as it doean't have black menues like Android, I'm OK.
As long as Apple continues to use LCD display technology you have little to fear. Part of the reason other mobile operating systems use so much black is because it saves battery life with an AMOLED screen.
MIYU like !Yes to this!
anyway, apple should hire MIUI designers, have a look at MIUI 5
http://www.frandroid.com/actualites-generales/130986_miui-v5-quelques-captures-dans-la-nature/
And this could be confirmed by the new Speetest icon:
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Which is what is happening. The title of this news on all sites are just for trolling.
They didn't say he pushed for flat design but for a "more flat design" which is totally different.
But you know, web sites and their ads...
No no no. This type of springboard will never happen.
If you read the article properly (and don't forget its still conjecture) it says "Overall, they expect any changes to be pretty conservative." conservative use, which makes perfect sense. I'm pretty sure this will result in the dumping of a few gradients here and there, perhaps ditching the 'linen' background (here's hoping), but nothing too radical.
App icons will never change that radically, and why should they?
Just to clarify for those still unsure; Flat design is a recent minimal web design trend which pertains to using more vector based graphics and less 'noise' such as over-worked styles and gradients. It's come about as a consequence of the responsive 'mobile first' movement and also encompasses more focus on strong typography.
I think the real challenge for Apple here isn't how they present the current built-in apps, or worrying about the latest trends, it's how can iOS evolve to be even more useful and innovative in terms of the overall UI, i.e, a more dynamic home/lock screen, a better implementation of the multi-tasking environment and the notification centre.
A tough challenge, sure, but as well all know Apple are UI/UX masters, so I trust Jony will no doubt oversee a well crafted execution, albeit perhaps over 2-3 versions, not miraculously solely in iOS7.
Flatter = Faster?
Not so fussed about the aesthetics. Just fix the fekking Ap Store. It makes iOS look slooooow. I couldn't give a crap about the eye candy, I want something that is slick and intuitive. Ive has got to be the man to deliver on that...
Not so fussed about the aesthetics. Just fix the fekking Ap Store. It makes iOS look slooooow. I couldn't give a crap about the eye candy, I want something that is slick and intuitive. Ive has got to be the man to deliver on that...
No need to speculate.
They won't change everything in 3 months !
If you look at the rumors coming out (i.e. almost nothing), you can also expect almost nothing new to come out.
What's going to happen is:
iPhone5S = iPhone5 with better camera and processor
iOs7 = iOs6 + some semi-working pseudo-innovation like Maps, Siri or Passport
They won't change everything in 3 months !
If you look at the rumors coming out (i.e. almost nothing), you can also expect almost nothing new to come out.
What's going to happen is:
iPhone5S = iPhone5 with better camera and processor
iOs7 = iOs6 + some semi-working pseudo-innovation like Maps, Siri or Passport
I agree with this. The fix is actually pretty simple - ban apps from putting settings in the settings app.
It clutters the settings app making it (even more) difficult to find the settings you're actually looking for. The vast majority of apps don't do anything useful in there anyway, they just see it as another place to advertise their app or display useless (to users) information like version numbers.