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Not so fussed about the aesthetics. Just fix the fekking Ap Store. It makes iOS look slooooow. I couldn't give a crap about the eye candy, I want something that is slick and intuitive. Ive has got to be the man to deliver on that...

Yeah, and allow me to search the iOS AppStore by price range, rating range, etc. so I don't have to scroll through hundreds of POS apps to get to a good few to pick from.

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And this could be confirmed by the new Speetest icon:
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That's definitive proof? WTF? It's one guy's icon...means nothing.
 
Yes to this! :)

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This is beautiful.

I have been championing a redesign since ios5 I really hope this rumour holds water....

I have always liked the windows redesign too, so the above as a similar look wouldn't be too bad, but wouldn't be innovative... Looks like the blackberry CEO hit the nail on the head.
 
Hmm, well in my years in software design when we talked about 'flatting' we meant limiting the amount of clicks someone needed to get to their objective. Not the look of any icons.

For instance, when using a menu we would limit the amount of arrows to expand the menu further. More having everything seen immediately with one click. Hard to explain. But it does in fact make navigation easier because things are not as buried. The Settings is a good example. One must make many steps at times just to get to your target. 'Flatting' would simply state that most, if not all, options are available from the first menu rather than buried several clicks (touches) further down.
 
I can't understand why so much praise is lavished upon Ive ... Apple deigns have stayed the same across all brands for many years with the main changes being a reduction in thickness only (which for the iMac has resulted in lost optical drives and the SD slot on the back (WTF!) ... Not to mention the 'chin' is still there! More recently, iPod designs look like children have designed them and iPhone's ... well, they scratch, they're boring and yes, the OS is old old old.

Ive might have drawn some good designs MANY years ago, but surely the credit should go to the engineers who actually designed and manufactured the products; their skill in giving Apple what they wanted ... Because anyone can draw pictures of pretty products, actually making them is a different thing!


Couldn't agree with you any more
 
Hmm, well in my years in software design when we talked about 'flatting' we meant limiting the amount of clicks someone needed to get to their objective. Not the look of any icons.

For instance, when using a menu we would limit the amount of arrows to expand the menu further. More having everything seen immediately with one click. Hard to explain. But it does in fact make navigation easier because things are not as buried. The Settings is a good example. One must make many steps at times just to get to your target. 'Flatting' would simply state that most, if not all, options are available from the first menu rather than buried several clicks (touches) further down.

So we'll click less and scroll around more (since screen real estate is limited).

That actually sounds better. Scrolling with your thumb (swiping up and down) through a 'flattened' version of settings will be much more fluid than what we have now: Scrolling around at the top level looking for the right settings category, clicking it, scrolling around one level down, deciding that's not where you want to be, clicking the BACK button to go back up a level, scrolling around again, hunting for the right category.... repeat, repeat.

I think you're on to something.
 
He was incredible, and he might be going to do a fantastic job with this. Just like he does with hardware.

Fixed that for you.

Apple's hardware design language is starting to get boring. It could really use something fresh. I understand it's kind of a signature design, but it hasn't evolved since they switched to 'aluminum & glass, silver & black' all over the place. If Ive would be as good as people claim him to be, he should be able to evolve the design language without making it look tacky...

Anyway, Louie Mantia about skeumorphism — http://mantia.me/blog/skeuomorphism/

I pretty much agree with this blog entry.

There's lots of skeuomorphism and glossy 3D-ish stuff in the current springboard, apps and UI elements that clash against more current clean design concepts.
Mmmh - i would rather call those more current design concepts "boring".

Looks like a child's toy to me with the Icons being printed on a cardboard. If iOS actually went this way with 7 or 8, the successor of my iPhone 5 would not be an Apple device for sure!

"Flatter" doesn't necessarily - or even likely - mean the extreme of Metro.

It will likely be similar to the change that OS X has gone through, from this in 10.1:

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to this in 10.8:

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Call me backwards, but I still like the look of 10.1 with its Aqua theme better than 10.8...

Here's the kind of change we can expect. Look at the Passbook intro screen before the release of iOS 6.1 and after.Image
Too bad - that's a disappointing outlook.

Relax, folks. If it's half as well designed as his hardware, it'll be amazing.
Exactly - that's why a race driver is the ideal airplane pilot as well! Oh wait...

App icons will never change that radically, and why should they?
Why did they with e.g. the folder icons from 10.6 to 10.8?

I also interpret flat as in moving away from skeuomorphisms. Ive seems to be simple and clean, where as skeuomorphisms are overly detailed and trying to be something they aren't
How about skeuomorphic design aims for a less boring UI?

I really hope that Apple doesn't go too far in the Windows Phone 8 and Google Now direction. Their visual design is far too flat and boring. iOS needs to retain its colour and character.

q.f.t.

'Flatting' would simply state that most, if not all, options are available from the first menu rather than buried several clicks (touches) further down.
I'm not convinced that a loooooong list on one page is less confusing than properly(!) grouped items on multiple pages (i.e. submenus). I think Apple is missing out on "properly" here...
 
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complimentary/complementary

I hope they become more complimentary (= free of charge). And if they say nice things to each other (also complimentary) , that's fine by me, too. And if they tend to work better together (complementary), then I'm happy just the same.

(puts flame suit on for attacking language issues and for not checking if someone already beat me to it.)
 
I'm new to this thread. What exactly is the "FLAT Design" the article is referring to for iOS 7? :confused:
 
AFAIK Steve had the final say on software design. There's even an infamous story about him ringing Greg Christie personally because he didn't like the shading on an app icon.

There are so many invented stories about Steve Jobs.

He called Google's SVP of Engineering (Vic Gundotra) to complain about the icon's colour not Greg Christies.
 
I'm really excited to see the results but this isn't something Apple will do over night. It will be a guided transition over the next few releases as not to pull a Microsoft and just say "Here ya go!". iOS has become seriously dated. It's about time they get rid of all this skeuomorphic design as well.
 
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inb4 microsoft sues.


I'm thinking it will be like this but with round edges on the tiles. Apple likes round edges :D

I did say in another thread that Apple could make their icons/tiles resizable like Windows Phone 8 allowing various degrees of displayed information, similar to the live tiles WP8 has.

This might be what Jony Ive has in mind. Something which is like a hybrid of the Windows Live Tiles and the HTC One main screen tiles. The idea being that you don't need to click on the app just to get basic information as it's already there in front of you like a Newspaper, or you can keep the icons small like they currently are. Your phone, Your choice.

looking forward to what he brings to the table now for iOS 7
 
So does this mean when when we get an update on our iPhone 5 to the new iOS 7, that we will lose the look of our current home screen icons?. If so, I won't update to a flat icons look like windows 8.
 
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I don't care about what the next iPhone itself brings in it. iOS 7 is going to be the best update in a long time.

Jony Ive saves us again :cool:

These are the thoughts that create waves of disappointment in people later.

When a new version of IOS hits the market, they're likely already far along on the next version. Ives took this role in what would have been more than the half way point of IOS7 development...

Which means, don't expect much of IOS 7 change wise. There isn't the time. I think there will be improvements and tweaks, but it's IOS 8 that will really show if Johnny has the chops for something outside of hardware or not.

I think IOS 7 is going to be a huge let down... I don't think Apple has been poised for what their competition is rolling out, and I think IOS 7 next to the latest version of Android and custom features from Samsung and other will seem disapointing.

Honestly, the iPhone needs more hardware... and software features to bring that hardware to life. The iPhone is looking very dated right now with all that just hit the market at CES this year.
 
Please just make sure the desktop environment works for the desktop environment and the mobile for the mobile.

Don't go the Windows 8 route and shove a touch tablet interface onto the desktop users.

People like to knock that idea, but until you use it you really don't understand how good it is...
 
There are so many invented stories about Steve Jobs.

He called Google's SVP of Engineering (Vic Gundotra) to complain about the icon's colour not Greg Christies.

Yes, and told him he was going to have Christie fix the icon.

http://gizmodo.com/5834317/vic-gund...lls-a-story-about-steve-jobs-being-steve-jobs

"I've been looking at the Google logo on the iPhone and I'm not happy with the icon. The second O in Google doesn't have the right yellow gradient. It's just wrong and I'm going to have Greg [Christie] fix it tomorrow. Is that okay with you?"

My guess is Christie took a fair amount of direction from Steve. Would be interesting to know if he was an advocate for some of the kitsch we find in iOS or if he was just following orders from Scott and Steve.
 
Fixed that for you.

Apple's hardware design language is starting to get boring. It could really use something fresh. I understand it's kind of a signature design, but it hasn't evolved since they switched to 'aluminum & glass, silver & black' all over the place. If Ive would be as good as people claim him to be, he should be able to evolve the design language without making it look tacky...

Yeah it's so boring...that's why everyone seems to be copying it. HTC One has a unibody aluminum shell. Word is Nokia is also working on an aluminum phone. And of course all the ultrabooks that take cues from the MacBook Air. Go read reviews of the iPad mini. I've yet to find one that says the design is boring.

Just curious what you think the design should evolve to?
 
Flat design

Apple products should be designed by hardware and software engineers, not graphic designers. Let's hope that Jony Ive will keep this in mind when his iMac overheats.
 
Cant wait for an iPhone with Super Nintendo graphics!

Jony Ive, its time you leave Apple

I hope Tim Cook learn from the Windows 8 fiasco and stop integrating iOS and OS X
 
I smell the fear of no longer supporting some of the previous iOS versions.
"Let's force a hardware upgrade by not supporting any iOS that is not current." - JI
 
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