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Yeah it's so boring...that's why everyone seems to be copying it.
A good indication that it's time to move on. It was good, when it was new, but its peak time is over now.

Just curious what you think the design should evolve to?
Well - neither am i educated for design nor do i get paid top dollar. So i have not really an idea what might work and what not (especially without computer simulation or prototypes for testing out some ideas).

In my layman's terms the design is too cold and unemotional. Too techy, so to speak. Technologically many products are similar nowadays, so design and emotion become an ever-increasing factor in a purchase decision, especially for high-priced (read: premium) products.

Audi had similar problems in the past of focusing too much on technical aspects and have changed their marketing completely to being more emotional (think e.g. of the colour language and the "heartbeat" sample at the end of their TV ads) when they realized it.

Regarding Apple's products i could imagine giving the cold aluminum silver a slightly warmer tone, e.g. a slight hue (not more) of bronze, copper or champagne (think of something like the Pioneer VSX-908 champagne/gold, only a little bit more faded). Even a slight(!) blue hue would be better than pure silver. I also like unusual colors like e.g. Audi's "suzuka grey", which looks far better in real life than on photos. But i admit that such colors may not be mainstream and may also work better on cars than on comparably small objects. That's why it takes a design expert to test it out and decide.

Another point are the pretty sharp edges on current Apple notebooks, which could use a slightly stronger chamfer-bevel (wording?) giving a smoother curve especially at the hand-rest of the MB(P)'s.

This would show evolution without leaving the current design language.

Further long-term options could be a two-color design (perhaps with a slightly waved intersection) or glass parts, which could e.g. be smoked or lit (an evenly distributed glowing like the Apple logo on the back, perhaps with a variety of colors). Those options would require great skill and taste to NOT make it look tacky, but when done right i could imagine this quite well. Ive could be the man to do it right.

Beyond that i would like to see some intriguing new technical and design approach(es), such as the double-hinged flowerpot iMac had been back then. Current iMacs are the same rectangle sitting on the same unergonomic foot for a felt eternity. What about a more ergonomic foot using an eccentric hinge for at least _some_ height adjustment?! Again - no big deviation from the current design language, yet a step forward.

Or what about the Apple logo doubling as e.g. sensor power button (Think Cube) when an Apple notebook is used in clamshell mode?

And the huge touchpad on today's Apple notebooks is predestined to double as optional second screen for status display, program control or similar. With suitable API all programs could make use of it. Again - needs to be done right to look good, but could be a really nice addition.

Enough for starters?! A trained design expert could probably easily think of half a dozen more ideas that would fit Apple's design language and premium claims.
 
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Windows Phone 7/8 has already been there, done that and got the t-shirt.
Please Apple don't start copying others like they do to you.

btw I myself like 3D glossy interfaces.
 
Go Jony!

It's not what many of you think. It will be so revolutionary that no one among the current copycats can copy. :p

Jony: ******* yeah, copcats!
 
Go Jony!

It's not what many of you think. It will be so revolutionary that no one among the current copycats can copy. :p

Jony: ******* yeah, copcats!

If true, it will probably be such a disaster that no one would want to copy it.

Seriously - much of the UI is there because it's obvious. And other phones (before Apple made phones, and now) do the same thing because it's obvious.

For example, what if Ive decided that it made more sense to enter phone numbers right-to-left (last digit first, then...) Would that be revolutionary? I don't think so.

[Sincere apologies to those using right-to-left locale settings.... Nobody that I'm trying to reach even knows that you exist.]
 
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Osx

Please just make sure the desktop environment works for the desktop environment and the mobile for the mobile.

Don't go the Windows 8 route and shove a touch tablet interface onto the desktop users.

Its always better to have a choice and that is why Windows 8 is painful to use on desktops.
 
A simpler, flat design? I can't imagine iOS getting even more simple to use. If anything, I was hoping for more customization. Well, Ive has done good work in the past so maybe this will work out.

Sounds like copying the google redesign
 
I have never understood the idea that something is bad just because it is 'old'. There are many old things that we continue to use. For example claw hammers have been used since Roman times and have only had minor changes in all these centuries. If something suits the purpose for which it was designed why should it be changed?

Yeah I just used one of those claw hammer things the other day and it worked perfectly. :D
 
People saying things like 'the lock screen is ancient' and 'the static grid of icons is ancient' seem to forget that the menu bar in OS X has been around since system 1, eons ago. If something isn't broke, don't fix it.
 
People saying things like 'the lock screen is ancient' and 'the static grid of icons is ancient' seem to forget that the menu bar in OS X has been around since system 1, eons ago. If something isn't broke, don't fix it.

Fortunately for us the majority of the human race doesn't see it that way. Otherwise we would be using sticks to cook pieces of meat over an open fire. It worked, why invent the spit, or cooking pot, or oven? Why domesticate horses or oxen since our legs work quite well. Or why invent the plow since one can till the ground by hand?

Innovation and progress is a human trait. Sometimes it doesn't work out but most times life gets a bit easier and better. Who knows what Apple will come up with. Some will undoubtedly hate it, some will love it. Most will simply accept it.

So you need to ask yourself, exactly where in the world of innovation and progress would you like to stop? Find that point for yourself then simply opt out of further changes. Leave the rest to enjoy the progress. Win-win
 
Out of curiosity, what do you think is so painful about it?

Personally, I found it extremely difficult to navigate and completely counterintuitive on a desktop/laptop without a touchscreen. Maybe on a touchscreen all those ugly squares work well, but it was confusing as hell to me.

Personally, it was easier switching from windows to OSX than going from W7 to W8.....
 
Personally, I found it extremely difficult to navigate and completely counterintuitive on a desktop/laptop without a touchscreen. Maybe on a touchscreen all those ugly squares work well, but it was confusing as hell to me.

Personally, it was easier switching from windows to OSX than going from W7 to W8.....

See, I haven't noticed much difference, and I really think it's because most people go into it with this mindset that it's a "touch" UI, and they can't get their head around it.

It's the same situation with the springboard in OSX. There's nothing at all keeping it from working perfectly with a mouse, but since it originated in iOS, people keep talking about how much they don't like having a touch UI in their mouse driven interface.

Both the Start screen and the OSX springboard are a grid of icons. Pretty much the same thing everyone's been using since the mid 90's. The only difference being that the icons are just very slightly bigger.
 
The reason I do not like flat design is because everything and nothing is obvious that it is clickable.

Text with a square colored background can be a button or just a title. That is not user friendly.
 
Well, Ive has done good work in the past so maybe this will work out.

Just exactly WHERE did Ivy do a good job????


Mighty Mouse = Total Disaster Scroll Wheel
Magic Mouse = Diaster to work with
Retina Mac Book Pro = Cant use Bluetooth along with WIFI
iPhone = Antenna Problems

This guy is a disaster waiting to happen. And IS going to contribute to Apple's decline in quality... Most Pros are LEAVING Apple and OS X --

Ivy is obsessed with beauty in Hardware.... And his beauty in Hardware IMO is second, third, fourth to NONE..... But functionality HAS to be a part of the equation. Ivy's design is ONLY beautiful... Functionality is a catastrophe.

IVY should be designing Statues and Sculptures... NOT Computer Hardware..That needs to work..Would YOU fly a plane with CPU hardware designed by IVY.... NOT if you wanna LIVE

And he ought to be extremely ashamed of himself for THAT.

Johnny I. & Craig F. working together on OS X equals Bill G. and Paul A. trying to make windows as great as Mac OS X !!!!!

And merely thinking of this WallStreet idiot being paid by Apple to write great reviews on OS X which is going down the drain, makes me wanna call scarface and tell him that Mr. W. I just married his sister...;-)))))
 
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The reason I do not like flat design is because everything and nothing is obvious that it is clickable.

Text with a square colored background can be a button or just a title. That is not user friendly.

Make IOS Flat... What do you have... Samsung with Android @ 4 Times the price tag....

I hope that Ivy means compact when THIS editor says flat.. IOS has identical preferences in 10 different places... The IOS is a jungle... Make it Flat and I am on Samsung... As so many others are...

Apple is falling drastically. You wont see it today.. But trust me.. In 5 years MAX (I guess more like two) they WILL need another MethAmphetamine Infusion from someone with a LOT of cash...

Lose the PROS = Lose the MASSES
Apple gained the Masses by having the pros... NOW, they have forgotten ALL about it...
3pty PRo software runs BETTER and SMOOTHER on OS X than Apples OWN apps... What a JOKE
 
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Per my analyst, this is what "flat" means Image
"Courtesy of Gizmodo and iOS in Mac OS 7 style

Yeah... Looks like OS 7.5.3 --- WHY did we then have to go thru all that BS of having all that BS eye candy back then when the OS could NOT handle it... Today, the GPUs are strong enough and even lending sources to the OS via OpenCL... We go back to Black and White... Wow....Just like the new Finder. All BW and thus impossible to distinguish !!!

Hey... Why not make a traffic light all gray shades... Who cares about RED, YELLOW, GREEN

As said, Apple is moving towards disaster !!!

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Jesus. Complain complain complain. Why do you people even buy Apple products? He is incredible, and he's going to do a fantastic job with this. Just like he does with hardware. Faith people!

Exactly -- he IS in-credible....BAD in making hardware that works... He wouldn't know what an ANTENNA iS or means if it fell on his head. And he has obviously NEVER used a mouse in his life (If he has he MUST be suffering from severe spasms)

AS of now a class action lawsuit is being launched @ Apple for its total design flaw of the rMBP.... And rightly so.... WIFI doesn't really work. Fans go nuts. SSD Overheats. Bluetooth CANNOT work coherently with WIFI

Yeah... J. IVY is highly incredible... and will COST a LOT of money for Apple.
Hail Functionality === screw Beauty !!!

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I can't understand why so much praise is lavished upon Ive ... Apple deigns have stayed the same across all brands for many years with the main changes being a reduction in thickness only (which for the iMac has resulted in lost optical drives and the SD slot on the back (

If Ivy had been born beautiful...Apple users would have been paying 50% less for their computers... Dont get me wrong I like the design = looks grand and all. But I would prefer functionality over beauty.

Ivy must be using windows. Otherwise he wouldn't sit there in the video talking about the rMBP being so great. He has definitely NEVER used his own design... Either that or the man is suffering from distorted reality.

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Looks like the Finder in Mountain Lion ;-)

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I don't care about what the next iPhone itself brings in it. iOS 7 is going to be the best update in a long time.

Jony Ive saves us again :cool:

You must be from Philly... Brotherly Love :eek:
 
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