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I wonder if there is a degree of envy of Jony Ive here. He designed most/all of the Apple devices that have become iconic worldwide. He’s a fantastic designer and was instrumental in Apple coming back from near-bankruptcy to the $2 trillion company it is today.
 
I wonder if there is a degree of envy of Jony Ive here. He designed most/all of the Apple devices that have become iconic worldwide. He’s a fantastic designer and was instrumental in Apple coming back from near-bankruptcy to the $2 trillion company it is today.
I think there is.

Pretty amazing the influence Ive has had over Apple’s success.
 
Not surprising. The new design has Ive’s fingerprints all over it - from the unnecessary thinness in a desktop (thus forcing the headphone jack to be on the side of the machine and the Ethernet port to be a part of the power adapter), to the dearth of ports, to the white bezels around the screen.

That being said, it is a beautiful machine - Jony Ives’ designs have always been beautiful. I just still wish there was less a focus on making things thin and light and more on repair and upgradability. Alas, that ship has thoroughly sailed at this point.
So Ive, who is no longer an Apple employee, is able to dictate the thickness of a device over the engineers? John Ternus (who’s the new SVP of hardware) has no say in how Apple’s products are designed? He and the engineers just takes orders from designers?
 
Sorry don’t buy it. Designers aren’t telling the leader of hardware engineering how many ports can be on a machine.
As I said, I don’t know about now - but a quick look into apples history and that’s exactly how it’s been before.
 
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Sorry don’t buy it. Designers aren’t telling the leader of hardware engineering how many ports can be on a machine.

Jobs was famous for demanding the engineers fit into the design and not the other way around. It’s why we have beautiful computers with apparently strange engineering choices (according to some)
 
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Not surprising. The new design has Ive’s fingerprints all over it - from the unnecessary thinness in a desktop (thus forcing the headphone jack to be on the side of the machine and the Ethernet port to be a part of the power adapter), to the dearth of ports, to the white bezels around the screen.

That being said, it is a beautiful machine - Jony Ives’ designs have always been beautiful. I just still wish there was less a focus on making things thin and light and more on repair and upgradability. Alas, that ship has thoroughly sailed at this point.
Where would you put the headphone jack, in the back so it is harder to reach?
Power brick outside is better for the life of the computer.
Bezels are a nice grey, not white.
 
It certainly is a mistake and impacts everyone who uses a butterfly keyboard every day. Worst keyboard I have ever used.
I know people who like(d) the butterfly keyboard, but I admit there was some bad press about it. But that really wasn't the point of my post. IMO, people grow by making mistakes and trying new things. (except for those who are not capable of learning and keep repeating the same mistakes)
 
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I know people who like the butterfly keyboard, but I admit there was some bad press about it. But that really wasn't the point of my post. IMO, people grow by making mistakes and trying new things. (except for those who are not capable of learning and keep repeating the same mistakes)
Have to say I liked it. Never any problems for me (or, let’s face it, the majority of the millions of people that have one). Same with the Touch Bar. Macrumours isn’t the real world.
 
Not sure why I need to know who designed, engineered, marketed, Apple Products. They meet my needs or they do not.
 
The design screams Ive, but the 7 colors do not. He would not have been involved in anything but the “design in white” and probably wouldn’t have approved of the color chin being visually wider than the screen.
 
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