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Monster the company that fleeced customers for years with "premium cables" takes a bad deal for 5%. Sounds like karma to me!

No one was forcing them to sell that 5%. I don't see the case here, they got played but very much without anything dodgy happening and I hate apple and beats business arms.
 
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Moral of the story, keep a small percentage of common stock when you sell out. If something big happens, a check may show someday.
 
Also BTW, most people who disagree with the EU believe Apple should be paying more in taxes. Except we believe these taxes should be going to other jurisdictions. The EU is just jumping the queue and greedily trying to grab it all for themselves.
No, the EU isn't grabbing the money for themselves. They are telling Ireland to grab the money.

Two totally different things are happening: First, like every other big company, Apple is moving profits around so that they happen officially where the tax rate on profits is lowest. Second, the tax rate offered to them by Ireland is not just low, not just very low, it is extremely low. The EU didn't decide anything about moving profits around. They complained that the tax rate that Ireland gave to Apple is too low and Ireland must charge Apple a higher tax rate, including for previous years.

Even if that happens, Ireland company tax rate is still 12.5% vs. UK 20% vs. USA a lot more, so Apple would continue moving profits to Ireland. Unless Greece offers them a 10% tax rate... (but I'm told the problem with Greece is not the low tax rate, it's the low percentage of companies actually paying their taxes at all).
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Monster the company that fleeced customers for years with "premium cables" takes a bad deal for 5%. Sounds like karma to me!

No one was forcing them to sell that 5%. I don't see the case here, they got played but very much without anything dodgy happening and I hate apple and beats business arms.

If they didn't get $100 million then all they have to do is sell $1 million worth of monster cables for $100 million. Not a company I could feel sorry for.
 
I love this photo lol
The picture is them posing on the "executive balcony" overlooking the main Apple lobby in Infinite Loop One with the courtyard behind them. I have been there and it is a great view. Would be a great sport for a 360-camera pic.

I believe this is the same spot (or very close) that, right after he came back, Steve Jobs was throwing Apple Newtons into the lobby floor. The were shattering to pieces on the marble below as Steve was calling them "stupid scribble pads."

Those in the soon-to-be-terminated Newton Team were running away during this "failed drop test" as the incident was written up. Some left work for the day to avoid this legendary rant.
 
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Monsters crime : making crap and charging premium

Beats Crime : copying monster

Apples crime : buying beats

Looser in all this : the suckers who pay premium for average quality goods.
 
Monsters crime : making crap and charging premium

Beats Crime : copying monster

Apples crime : buying beats

Looser in all this : the suckers who pay premium for average quality goods.
Are Beats still average quality? I don't own any but know people who say their new stuff is quite good.
 
Monsters crime : making crap and charging premium

Beats Crime : copying monster

Apples crime : buying beats

Looser in all this : the suckers who pay premium for average quality goods.

Are Beats still average quality? I don't own any but know people who say their new stuff is quite good.
I don't know the right English term, but the opposite of "Buyer's remorse" comes to mind. Being actually convinced that your money didn't go through the toilet flush. The only problem I have with this kind of people is when they try to change my mind about that crap. For the sake of it, may their life go in peace.
 
Are Beats still average quality? I don't own any but know people who say their new stuff is quite good.


I've listened to old and new , the old were so bad. The new ones are quite good , but you need to take price point into account . At their price point the competition offers much better headphones, hence why I view them as average at the premium price point.

Best to try them in an Apple Store as SQ is subjective, and depends on the music you are into.

So.....I wish they offered better quality given the price. I don't see value in them, and I'm too old to worry about the cool factor, so that worth nothing to me
 
Lee and his company had entered into business with Beats as sophisticated investors.
That's the piece, that makes sense. They signed a contract with an escape clause and then tried to sue because Beats used that escape clause. Seems like they were a bit naive.
 
The new ones are quite good , but you need to take price point into account . At their price point the competition offers much better ________, hence why I view them as average at the premium price point.
Funny, I've heard that same argument used against another very popular, very profitable product.:rolleyes: No, I'm not talking about Bose either.:D As with any purchase, the perceived value lies with the person laying out the cash. I prefer my neutral Senn cans for my music, but I've listened to certain music on my daughters Beats... surprisingly, and if I'm honest, disappointingly the Beats sounded better.:(
 
I wonder if people would be on the side of Beats if it wasnt owned by Apple. One can clearly see Dre and his band of idiots went out of their way to get Monster out of the picture to get more Apple $$$ for themselves. Im not saying it was illegal, but they did actively pushes them out with a scheme.
 
Funny, I've heard that same argument used against another very popular, very profitable product.:rolleyes: No, I'm not talking about Bose either.:D As with any purchase, the perceived value lies with the person laying out the cash. I prefer my neutral Senn cans for my music, but I've listened to certain music on my daughters Beats... surprisingly, and if I'm honest, disappointingly the Beats sounded better.:(

That is why I mentioned Its subjective and dependent on ones music choice . For hip hop they are very good. Personally some great AKG or Senns at that price point .

I was pleasantly surprised how improved they are over the 1st gen.....which were criminal quality for the price. I no longer hate them , and give them some respect as a worthy heaphone.

If price is not an issue, they are good set of heaphones. I just personally cannot justify the price of them....for what i get.
 
Looks like Apple paid off yet another judge.
So Beats and Apple successfully argue their case based on the merits of the aforementioned contracts and the judge finds that the actions of Beats were in accordance with the terms and that somehow translates to a judge being paid off? How did you enter into that conclusion?
 
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I wonder if people would be on the side of Beats if it wasnt owned by Apple. One can clearly see Dre and his band of idiots went out of their way to get Monster out of the picture to get more Apple $$$ for themselves. Im not saying it was illegal, but they did actively pushes them out with a scheme.
"Winners write the history books.
Losers write the ethics books."

Still true to this day.
 
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So Beats and Apple successfully argue their case based on the merits of the aforementioned contracts and the judge finds that the actions of Beats were in accordance with the terms and that somehow translates to a judge being paid off? How did you enter into that conclusion?

Because Apple / Beats won the case? Apple being evil because they bribe judges, and they bribe judges because they are evil? And if they lose a case they are evil as well because they break the law? Evil no matter what, that's how he arrived at the conclusion.

BTW. Good luck to Monster trying to get the cost for their lawyers, when everything else was thrown out.
 
Beats Electronics [...] convinced Lee to sell part of his 5 percent stake. Lee alleges that the moves were made to exclude Monster from Beats by Dre profits and, later, the Apple acquisition, which would have netted Lee more than $100 million if he had kept his stake.
This looks like a simple case of seller regret to me.
 
Are Beats still average quality? I don't own any but know people who say their new stuff is quite good.
For some reason, perhaps undiagnosed hearing damage, my husband likes their stuff. :p He bought me the Powerbeats 2,earbuds for my 49th birthday. They sound pretty good but they often skip and stutter and have limited range from the device. They hold a charge decently, though and they wedge pretty well into my ears. They do well on phone calls.

I like them but they were expensive. I appreciate the gift but no way would I spend that kind of money for them. Unfortunately I keep misplacing them. I never misplace my wired ones, but these are easy to lose so I'm not digging the wireless trend.

For my 50th birthday he got me the Beats Studio wireless noise cancellation headphones. He had asked for the same for last Christmas, and I got them for him and he loves his. I tried his once on the airplane and liked how they blocked the engine noise of the plane well enough that I could hear the music. At the time, because of the plane noise I couldn't judge the quality of the music, I just appreciated the muffling of the exterior noise and really envied him those headphones. So he got me my own when my birthday rolled around a few weeks ago. His I had purchased from Amazon and they came with the charger.

I think he purchased mine from the Apple Store. We searched the box thoroughly but there was no charger. Fortunately I have a charger on hand for a Bluetooth speaker. So that's a minor ripoff right there if they've decided to drop the charger from the newer package to save a few dollars.

As for the sound...imagine for a moment you're in a nice stereotypical man cave with the big no expenses spared stereo system and a big squashy leather sofa. Make it poofy faux leather from a shady discount furniture store, because the money went into the awesome stereo and the budget had to be cut somewhere. ;) Turn the stereo on to a comfortable volume, not overly loud and then go over to the sofa. Have a seat and listen. Music sounds great,doesn't it?

Well...now stand up and shove your head in between the poofy faux leather sofa cushions and give the music a listen that way.

That is what it's like to listen to music on Apple Music on my iPhone on my Beats Studio Wireless. :confused:On my Note 7 with a special equalizer and audio booster custom set to compensate for any deficits in my own hearing, it sounds a bit better and more clear but the volume needs to be turned way up. I thought I had gone hearing impaired, but reassuringly found this is not the case with my twenty five year old Sony wired earbduds.

On the plus side they don't skip or stutter too badly and they can go pretty far from the device before they lose the signal.
 
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On the plus side they don't skip or stutter too badly and they can go pretty far from the device before they lose the signal.

You have headphones that _skip and stutter_? Oh well, I guess I stay away from wireless.

(One advantage of wired is that when I use them on the underground plugged into the phone, that makes it very difficult to steal my phone without me noticing).
 
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