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These patents are ridiculous! Pinch to zoom, really? This is a waste of time and hinders innovation. The US patent system is out of control. And, no I'm not an android lover, I'm typing this on my iPhone.
 
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If Steve Jobs was alive today that would be his quote above.
 
Probably posted somewhere but this thread is huge. Samsung's comment...

"Today's verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer. It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices. It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies. Consumers have the right to choices, and they know what they are buying when they purchase Samsung products. This is not the final word in this case or in battles being waged in courts and tribunals around the world, some of which have already rejected many of Apple's claims. Samsung will continue to innovate and offer choices for the consumer."

No. No no, no Samsung, it is a win for Apple, you didn't innovate a damn thing, you stole, stole it point blank because you (and Android) are bankrupt of ideas. Microsoft makes a decent OS for mobile and tablet, and you... you just stole, stealing isn't innovation, it's just pathetic, and you're pathetic. After reading this pathetic PR BS you put out there, I've changed my mind, if this is your whiny excuse that boohoo you were caught ripping off someone else's ideas, I hope Apple takes you for everything you got and you become just a footnote in tech history. FU!

Just an interesting question what did samsung exactly steal? Pinch too Zoom is a feature in android not anything samsung have made, neither is scrolling with your fingers.
 
Good thing Apple makes incredible 55 inch LED hdtvs...wait thats Samsung.

:rolleyes:

I also have a xbox and a ps3...so am I an apple, samsung, microsoft, sony, panasonic, toshiba, or hp fan because I have products from all of them.

There are other companies that make just as good if not better LED HDTVs then Samsung. You don't have to give the world's worst copy cats your money. I wouldn't.
 
I do wonder if the exclusion of the F700 from evidence will be revisited, though. If Samsung could have shown even one device from 2006 that looked remotely like an iPhone (or at least close enough to some of the phones released in late 2007 and early 2008), this verdict might have been far less one-sided.

IIRC, the F700 evidence was not excluded - Samsung did not file the evidence in time and the judge refused to allow them to file it after the deadline. The judge didn't do anything wrong here, the blame lies solely with Samsung.
 
I bought an HTC Desire because, frankly, it 'looked and felt like an iPhone'. Of course, I later got an iPhone and it was much better. So I suppose HTC tricked me and ripped off Apple as well.

Maybe Apple do have a point. I mean, Windows Phone is something different. You don't have to copy Apple just because.
 
They can't as Apple didn't make a single blue box. Apple was formed after Jobs and Woz stopped making blue boxes.

AT&T could sue Woz over blue boxes, but I doubt they are going to.

Hm....that would be interesting.


DO IT ATT!
 
Originally Posted by DakotaGuy
Everything Samsung builds has been copied from someone else. They have absolutely no engineering ability. A true Apple fan wouldn't have Samsung stuff sitting around the house.


I really like comments like that since a lot of the stuff inside your apple things are built by samsung :)
 
Apple does not care for that **** of $B money. They need a win to stop those copycats and make them think twice before copying in the future.

Do not argue with me if samsung copied or not as everybody can keep his/her perspective. But for this trial, it is a huge win for apple. Personally I think it is a huge brand damage to samsung. Even if some of jury verdict is overruled by the appeal court in the future, many people will link samsung to a copycat.

I so enjoyed so many "experts with +++ professional experience" in this forum now shuffling their ass!

Well I give you this. The win has nothing to do with copying or money. The real Apple victory (unless overturned in an appeal) is the validation of patents. Nothing else really matters as Samsung will tweak their skin of Android and make cosmetic changes and pay whatever fine they have to pay. Water under the bridge.
 
Samsung works with Apple to manufacturer Apple's designs and in return Samsung copied many of Apple's implementations without working to license the tech like Microsoft and others have done.

Samsung will steadily see less and less work orders from Apple moving forward. There are much bigger fab corporations out there that don't include Intel.

Don't be surprised if they don't end up working more closely together after this is all settled.
 
Well I give you this. The win has nothing to do with copying or money. The real Apple victory (unless overturned in an appeal) is the validation of patents. Nothing else really matters as Samsung will tweak their skin of Android and make cosmetic changes and pay whatever fine they have to pay. Water under the bridge.

Really do wish that some of those patents were made invalid.
 
There are other companies that makes just as good if not better LED HDTVs then Samsung. You don't have to give the world's worst copy cats your money. I wouldn't.

Apple is giving their money to "the world's worst copy cats." So I think it's ok.

You buying Apple products is giving money to Samsung.

When will these types of hypocritical comments end? lol
 
We're about to get 500+ posts raving about the wonderful patent system we have, "serves Samsung right," "now sue the rest of them Apple", "did Google die", etc.

Or, we're about to get 500+ posts finding huge fault with the "outdated, antiquated" patent system we have, "Apple should appeal," "Apple should immediately cut all business relations with all Samsung units," etc.

More like 1500+ :p
 
This is total BS. This is what happens when important decisions are left with people who can't tell the difference between their earhole and their @sshole.
We are not talking about inventions. Pinch zoom, bounce back? Icons on the screen? While Samsung's patents cover communication and power savings. Actual technical inventions, not some irrelevant little software feature. It's a shame that patent offices allow obvious things to be patented and abused. Here are some more ideas that Apple might be able to patent:
"The way the user is holding the phone with the right hand"
"Conveying verbal information through sound waves to the mobile device"

Apple can't keep all competition away with lawsuits. The market is won be making a better product and right now Samsung has a better device. Just like RIM and Nokia, Apple can easily lose their lead in the next few years.
 
Just an interesting question what did samsung exactly steal? Pinch too Zoom is a feature in android not anything samsung have made, neither is scrolling with your fingers.

There is a difference between patenting Pinch to Zoom and a method of implementing Pinch to Zoom.
 
There are other companies that makes just as good if not better LED HDTVs then Samsung. You don't have to give the world's worst copy cats your money. I wouldn't.

Oh apparently you are a fanboy. Or just mad you live in South Dakota. Who the hell lives there anyways? Cows?

Samsung is the number one TV manufacturer IN THE WORLD. With consistently high reviews.
 
It's morning in Asia, and Samsung fans are up! :D I have my popcorn with me reading those comments.
 
IIRC, the F700 evidence was not excluded - Samsung did not file the evidence in time and the judge refused to allow them to file it after the deadline. The judge didn't do anything wrong here, the blame lies solely with Samsung.

That's what Magistrate Judge Grewal ruled and Judge Koh concluded. However, it's exactly that kind of thing that appellate courts look at. They won't look at whether the Nexus S does or does not have a bounce back feature, or whether the Tab 10.1 violates the iPad's trade dress. They will consider whether the denial of admission of evidence was permissible.
 
There are other companies that make just as good if not better LED HDTVs then Samsung. You don't have to give the world's worst copy cats your money. I wouldn't.

Companies? You mean two which own the HDTV market, LG and Samsung. And frankly, samsung TV's blow LG's out of the water.

If Samsung was smart right now, they should practice discriminatory pricing against Apple. Apple cannot cut Samsung from the supply chain without cutting production--which cuts forecasts. Increase the cost for your competitor to do business.
 
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