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Jury Rules Samsung Must Pay Apple $290 Million in Damages Retrial
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Even Safari crashes, iOS crashes. Sometimes to the point it restarts itself. So not sure what is it you're trying to prove here.
And talking about tilting, iPhone 5S had problem with compass calibration.
Not only are you probably right, but this is hugely tragic and anti-competitive behavior because as long as the profits outweigh penalties IP expect to see a lot more piggy backing on Apple designs.
But this is not 1985. Apple has learned. And as Steve Jobs said on January 9th 2007 at 10:44am: "We filed for over 200 patents for all the inventions in iPhone and we intend to protect them.""
I used iPhone 5s for almost 2 months and I just could not take it anymore; did an even trade for a brand new Note 3 and I enjoy that so much better. I was actually fine with the size and speed of the iPhone but iOS is so limited in what you can do. Apple is to stubborn to realize that Android is the better platform. But they rather blame it patent infringement.
And $290 million to Samsung is nothing. Samsung just gave all Note 3 owners (old and new) $50 playstore money just for the hell of it. Samsung is just going to stay relentless model after model. People are laughing at their smart watch but wait till revision 2 and 3. And the kicker is that Apple will still ask Samsung for manufacturing help.
And $290 million to Samsung is nothing. Samsung just gave all Note 3 owners (old and new) $50 playstore money just for the hell of it. Samsung is just going to stay relentless model after model. People are laughing at their smart watch but wait till revision 2 and 3. And the kicker is that Apple will still ask Samsung for manufacturing help.
A "nickel" (5 cent coin) actually costs 7.7 cents to make. Anyone trying to remove $890 million dollar worth of nickels from circulation would find themselves in a world of trouble.
And trying to deliver 89,000 tons of coins to Cupertino would probably get you arrested for disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct, and so on.
Exactly, but I think this applies to Apple itself. It is a very litigious company that hates competition and would rather sue than innovate, given its propensity to patent the most simple things imaginable, while taking advantage of the very lax US patent law.
Those who can innovate, innovate. Those who cannot innovate, sue for patent infringement.
I think that after the original iPod/iPhone/iPad combo they lost their mojo and now they're just riding out what's left of the wave, suing left and right in an attempt to keep it going as much as possible. Not cool.
Explain what is so innovative about what Samsung is doing, for one.
And two Apple gave birth to the entire form, function and expectation of Smartphones in 2007, and tablets in 2010. The entire industry was redefined.
That's Apple. Who has innovated more than Apple in the last 10 years? And if you say anything about a big screen being an innovation, you're not worth speaking to.
Except 'better platform' is highly subjective. Considering how malware ridden it is, how so many manufacturers refuse to update their phones, that Google tracks freaking everything you do AND the fact that it doesn't have any features that are compelling enough for me to want to consider switching... iOS is still the platform for me.
The constant Android vs iOS is really old and was three years ago, tbh. And I'm speaking as someone who owns a Galaxy tablet.
Why should I do that? I said nothing about Samsung and the only thing I care about in the Apple vs Samsung piss-in-the-wind contests is that we, the consumers, lose, by virtue of more expensive products and less innovation.
You're being melodramatic, smartphones existed before the iPhone. This has nothing to do with patents however. Apple made very good products, which is not the same with being extraordinarily innovative, which they weren't.
Apple has always been a very good integrator of existing technologies, but not necessarily a pioneer. If you look at their patents, you'll see that virtually every single one is for something trivial, not something unique and non-obvious (i.e. innovative).
Apple, to me, does very little technological innovation. They're a lifestyle company, more akin to a fashion company. Their use of patent law is abusive and fundamentally anti-competitive.
Given your rudeness and inclination to fight straw-men rather than the argument, I am doubtful that you're a person worth speaking to.
And Apple used everybody else's designs, technology and concepts to make a smart phone, so what? I know there is no point bothering with that debate anymore, as Apple appears to have re-invented the wheel where smart-phones are concerned in most ill informed peoples minds.
I am sorry to hear that feel you are a sheep and cannot tell an Apple product from a Samsung one. That's clearly your problem and not that of a multinational. Myself and many millions of others have a brain, a pair of eyes and if all else the internet to make an informed decision.
I believe I said what I wanted to say, so I do not understand your "man-up" rhetoric. I always speak my mind in my posts.
The disclaimer was a semi-humourous footnote to avoid all the usual and pathetic "your a Samsung Troll", "You should not be on this forum" nonsense I see when somebody dares say something not pro-Apple.
You are sadly confusing my avoidance of wanting to enter into disscussion with the mindless, who think Steve Jobs was a living god and Apple can do no wrong at all, with me caring about what people think..
This jury was acting on assumption that Apple had a valid patent. Now this patent is gone. Samsung can't be guilty of infringing on a non-existing patent.
PS: this one is easy. Google.
Where Apple is the Burberry of the tech world, with overpriced but good quality, functional and stylish products available to a relatively rich section of the world, Google's impact was a magnitude higher, both in effect and number of people affected.
I recall a Steve Jobs quote, I believe it was in his biography, that he would spend every cent of Apple's cash reserves to defend the company's patents if it came to it. Tim Cook might not share that sentiment today but Jobs would be satisfied with a win over Samsung regardless of the money made (or spent).
Also, to be fair, the $290 million is on top of the $600 million the judge left on the table from the previous trial so Samsung owes $890 million. Still not much compared to the money Apple spends on patents and legal fees.
If it's like you said, then anyone can do it. Why didn't Samsung patent those "most simple things imaginable" in US and sued Apple after they released iPhone in 2007? And if they are so simple and obvious, why copy them in the first place? Just find other simple and obvious things by couple of days of work, since they are simple and obvious.
Good news, each time Apple cries foul and more money is awarded, they get temporary relief from their massive greed. Unable to rise above the rest (or choosing not to) and leave them marveling at what Apple creates, they're getting sucked into the competitions web.
Sooner or later the odds will be against them. Once that happens they'll feel the slap of reality. It'll be time to focus on building products, not just launching legal assaults.
It's time for them to act like the first class company they used to be. Spewing venom and engaging brings them down to street fighter level. The phrase "Thug Life" comes to mind.
Apples far better than this, it's time for them to put their money were their mouth is.
I know they're capable
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As an Apple enthusiast, and extremely happy Galaxy Note 3 user, I agree.
It's sad that Apple has chosen this path.
Sooner or later the odds will be against them. Once that happens they'll feel the slap of reality. It'll be time to focus on building products, not just launching legal assaults.
It's time for them to act like the first class company they used to be. Spewing venom and engaging brings them down to street fighter level. The phrase "Thug Life" comes to mind.
Apples far better than this, it's time for them to put their money were their mouth is.
I know they're capable
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As an Apple enthusiast, and extremely happy Galaxy Note 3 user, I agree.
It's sad that Apple has chosen this path.
If only people realised that Samsung is a horrible phone due to bloatware and they could alternatively get a Nexus 5 for cheaper that looks and runs a lot better. But you know, Samsung is Samsung, all their negative campaigning is louder due to the fact that they make people angry at others and therefore gain the weak minded peoples interests.
I guess you could say "Samsheep". It is much more relevant than "iSheep" these days imo.
I constantly hear people say, they won't support a monopoly company. Well guess what, Apple are not the monopoly in anything. May as well not support Samsung lol.
5S and Nexus 5 are the best phones currently. 5S is better but double the price.
I guess you could say "Samsheep". It is much more relevant than "iSheep" these days imo.
I constantly hear people say, they won't support a monopoly company. Well guess what, Apple are not the monopoly in anything. May as well not support Samsung lol.
5S and Nexus 5 are the best phones currently. 5S is better but double the price.
Don't give Samsung business and they will in turn innovate instead of engaging in expensive patent violations against Apple
You're so right. They existed and nothing was innovative about the iPhone
So Trivial and "non-obvious" that no one else patented the ideas first...
Don't copy their stuff and you wont have a problem.
Still waiting to hear all these great innovations the competition is offering...
This is bad comedy.
Umm, no, the patent isn't gone. At the time, Apple's patents were valid by the patent office. Just because it is now in question does not mean the patents are automatically gone. It just means that Apple have to explain more to retain the validity of the patents. This kind of things happens a lot and often in the end, it gets reconfirmed as valid. It is very rare that the patent office would reject the patent as invalid in its entirely.
See this article about these previous patents that was in question as well and then the patent office reconfirmed it as valid after Apple did their work.