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Well after a day of burn in I am pleased to announce my battery life is still great. 86% left and it predicts 10 hours, very happy I did the upgrade, check out the screenshot..

Is this 15''? If so, how fast of processor, RAM, and SSD?
 
i have not interest in refurb and have had bad experience in 2012 with two MBPrs.
I really wouldn't use anecdotal evidence—i.e., luck—to guide your decisions.

are you saying that 750 is always faster than iris pro when it comes to openGL?
I wouldn't say "always," but certainly most of the time, and sometimes significantly so.

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Coconut Battery on my 2012 model reports that its capacity is at 89% after 1 year and around 350 cycles, whereas I assume the Haswell model is at 100%.

Out of curiosity, what's the mAh reading for each? I'm wondering whether there was any change in design capacity between the two. I wouldn't assume so, but I've also learned better than to assume.
 
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Virtually no lag on apple applications. Don't know about all 3rd party though.

This is do to Mavericks.

So Ivy Bridge with Mavericks
or
Haswell with Mavericks no lag

How is the screen quality? Brightness?! Samsung or LG screen?
 
Mid 2012 15" rMBP Battery Status on 10.9

Battery ...

Sorry about the crappy pic
 

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Would appreciate any quick advice from those that are planning to return their 15" 2.3/16GB/512GB Haswell system.
Apple has the Feb 2013 Ivy system 2.7/16gb/512gb for $2,169. With my student discount there is only a $230 difference between the Ivy and Haswell with matched specs. It's always nice to save a few bucks when I can (every penny counts), but for a 3-4 year machine is the price difference worth it?

Thanks!
 
Dudes most of us here (including myself) are upgrading from our 2007-2008 models, enough with the returning my laptop talk let us feel good here!

The last 3 pages were totally depressing to read. Im all for benchmarking and measurebating (im super guilty of it with lenses and camera bodies in the photography field) but lets throw in a compliment here and there and appreciate what a wonderful blend of software and hardware we have our hands on.
 
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Some buyers advice.
If you game and don't want to spend 2600$ get the early 2013 refurbished for 1600$. Thats a 1000$ price difference. For this kind of money you can get a gaming PC. The performance difference between 650M and 750M are minor because the 750M is just a rebranded 650M with higher clocks (Same Chip only 1Gb extra Vram which you won't notice). In windows you can easily overclock your 650M near or over the 750M lvl. If you consider buying the new one base 1999$ you will loose massive gaming performance because the Iris Pro really sucks in gaming and you can't overclock it !!

$1000 is a lot of money. But I have a feeling that this 802.11 AC wifi down the road is going to be like the Elvis line was for music. And since this purchase is going to be with me for 5 years, I feel I would regret not getting the new model
 
Dudes most of us here (including myself) are upgrading from our 2007-2008 models, enough with the returning my laptop talk let us feel good here!

The last 3 pages were totally depressing to read. Im all for benchmarking and measurebating (im super guilty of it with lenses and camera bodies in the photography field) but lets throw in a compliment here and there and appreciate what a wonderful blend of software and hardware we have our hands on.


Amen, all this talk about 2% vs 10% and discrete vs integrated is laughable. If you have a 2011 or 2012, YOU DO NOT NEED A NEW LAPTOP!!!!

I am typing this from a 2005 iMac with a Core duo and a integrated card with 128 mb of graphic RAM.

I am going to get the full boat Macbook Pro 2.6 1tb 16 gig RAM as I plan on having it for another 5 -7 years.

I understand the focus on details but lets be honest here....

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[/COLOR]not trying to be preachy here, but we live in a culture that thrives off the latest and greatest. There is something good to be said about wearing something out. Once again, not trying to offend anyone, just trying to offer an alternative perspective


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9GorqroigqM
 
Virtually no lag on apple applications. Don't know about all 3rd party though.

This is do to Mavericks.

So Ivy Bridge with Mavericks
or
Haswell with Mavericks no lag

Wrong. Haswell 13'' rMBP with Iris 5100 still has noticable UI lag.
 
Amen, all this talk about 2% vs 10% and discrete vs integrated is laughable. If you have a 2011 or 2012, YOU DO NOT NEED A NEW LAPTOP!!!!

I am typing this from a 2005 iMac with a Core duo and a integrated card with 128 mb of graphic RAM.

I am going to get the full boat Macbook Pro 2.6 1tb 16 gig RAM as I plan on having it for another 5 -7 years.

I understand the focus on details but lets be honest here....

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[/COLOR]not trying to be preachy here, but we live in a culture that thrives off the latest and greatest. There is something good to be said about wearing something out. Once again, not trying to offend anyone, just trying to offer an alternative perspective


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9GorqroigqM

He gets me - we are all on the same team here nothing personal at all!
 
Amen, all this talk about 2% vs 10% and discrete vs integrated is laughable. If you have a 2011 or 2012, YOU DO NOT NEED A NEW LAPTOP!!!!

I am typing this from a 2005 iMac with a Core duo and a integrated card with 128 mb of graphic RAM.

I am going to get the full boat Macbook Pro 2.6 1tb 16 gig RAM as I plan on having it for another 5 -7 years.

I understand the focus on details but lets be honest here....

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[/COLOR]not trying to be preachy here, but we live in a culture that thrives off the latest and greatest. There is something good to be said about wearing something out. Once again, not trying to offend anyone, just trying to offer an alternative perspective


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9GorqroigqM[/QUOTE

I completely agree. I came from a 2009 13 in dual core. Apple has always done things in small increments since the return of Steve Jobs. If you have a 2012 or hell a 2011 there is no need to upgrade to this version unless u want a little better portability or better screen (retina).
 
I am confused why people are so focused on the processor/gpu performance upgrade only.... I have been dying for a 1TB option and that's what's making me get this computer not to mention the faster storage speed. You people must barely use your computer to be able to live with anything smaller. I'm upgrading from a mid 2010 MBP and have my 1TB HDD nearly maxed out. Can't wait till my haswell comes in.
 
I am confused why people are so focused on the processor/gpu performance upgrade only.... I have been dying for a 1TB option and that's what's making me get this computer not to mention the faster storage speed. You people must barely use your computer to be able to live with anything smaller. I'm upgrading from a mid 2010 MBP and have my 1TB HDD nearly maxed out. Can't wait till my haswell comes in.

Most people are using less storage these days. If people aren't using close to a terabyte, that doesn't mean they aren't using their computer. SSDs and the cloud have changed the way we are using our storage.

But a 1TB SSD is a great option.
 
Most people are using less storage these days. If people aren't using close to a terabyte, that doesn't mean they aren't using their computer. SSDs and the cloud have changed the way we are using our storage.

But a 1TB SSD is a great option.

I barely use 128GB on any of my machines pretty much. I have a 24TB ZFS server in my house for backups, videos, etc.
 
Would appreciate any quick advice from those that are planning to return their 15" 2.3/16GB/512GB Haswell system.
Apple has the Feb 2013 Ivy system 2.7/16gb/512gb for $2,169. With my student discount there is only a $230 difference between the Ivy and Haswell with matched specs. It's always nice to save a few bucks when I can (every penny counts), but for a 3-4 year machine is the price difference worth it?

Be mathematical about your choice.

Price: 10% price diff.

MacBook Pro (15-inch Retina Late 2013)
Intel Core i7-4850HQ 2300 MHz (4 cores)
11794

MacBook Pro (15-inch Retina Early 2013)
Intel Core i7-3740QM 2700 MHz (4 cores)
11511

CPU perf diff: 0.024%

GPU: OpenGL... there's only a handful of games that use OpenGL, and Google Earth.

Boot speed seems to be 1 second faster for PCIe.

... add your own metrics.
 
I am confused why people are so focused on the processor/gpu performance upgrade only.... I have been dying for a 1TB option and that's what's making me get this computer not to mention the faster storage speed. You people must barely use your computer to be able to live with anything smaller. I'm upgrading from a mid 2010 MBP and have my 1TB HDD nearly maxed out. Can't wait till my haswell comes in.

1TB (+512) for +$660 in Aus ($500 US), I can get a new PC, PS4, XBOX1, flight to another country... with that.

Who "really" needs 1TB in their lap?
 
Can anyone say if their MagSafe adapter connection feels solid? People complained last year that the magnet was too weak.
 
That seems like a pretty big difference…

It is and I notice the difference.

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Wrong. Haswell 13'' rMBP with Iris 5100 still has noticable UI lag.

I see none.

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Amen, all this talk about 2% vs 10% and discrete vs integrated is laughable. If you have a 2011 or 2012, YOU DO NOT NEED A NEW LAPTOP!!!!

I am typing this from a 2005 iMac with a Core duo and a integrated card with 128 mb of graphic RAM.

I am going to get the full boat Macbook Pro 2.6 1tb 16 gig RAM as I plan on having it for another 5 -7 years.

I understand the focus on details but lets be honest here....

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[/COLOR]not trying to be preachy here, but we live in a culture that thrives off the latest and greatest. There is something good to be said about wearing something out. Once again, not trying to offend anyone, just trying to offer an alternative perspective


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9GorqroigqM[/QUOTE

I completely agree. I came from a 2009 13 in dual core. Apple has always done things in small increments since the return of Steve Jobs. If you have a 2012 or hell a 2011 there is no need to upgrade to this version unless u want a little better portability or better screen (retina).

Well it's a good thing you aren't trying to be preachy....

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Dudes most of us here (including myself) are upgrading from our 2007-2008 models, enough with the returning my laptop talk let us feel good here!

The last 3 pages were totally depressing to read. Im all for benchmarking and measurebating (im super guilty of it with lenses and camera bodies in the photography field) but lets throw in a compliment here and there and appreciate what a wonderful blend of software and hardware we have our hands on.

I think that's a pretty silly thing to say. Most people are upgrading from much newer Macs.

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Pretty much spot on. Improvement is minor at best, but a lot of that is Intel's fault.


Umm no.
Twice the ssd speed
Much better battery life
802.11ac

These are easily worth the upgrade to lots of people.
 
+1

I don't know what to do. I need a new laptop but at the same time...that screen. I keep trying to say to myself i'll mostly be looking at my Cinema Display but that isn't a good justification. Why can't panel manufacturers just get this right.

Just a wee update - I went into my local Apple Store today to take a look at the models on display. Of the three on display, two reported they had an LSN screen whereas the other just reported Color LCD which makes me think it's some other manufacturer - perhaps LG or maybe some other company entirely.

I ended up buying another 2.3GHz model in store and this one's screen is pretty much perfect - all screens have some level of uniformity variation but I can't detect any issues on this one with the naked eye. I checked and it's a Samsung display, but it looks significantly better than the 2.3GHz model I got online.

Good screens are out there!
 
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