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Just got a Blackberry! :P

Problem with blackberry is that they seem to be making phone worse instead of better.

The torch is not as good as the previous version. They were so desperate to make a touch screen phone they just failed with it.

This is based on my own experience and those in my office so please don't mark me down.. or do, not really fussed.
 
Well, if the new iPhone doesn't come out in Canada by October 1st, I'll be getting a 9860, my 3GS is tired and wants to go to a better place.
 
MaryDun said:
I also have a Blackberry for work. But I still prefer my iPhone 4, though :)
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Yup, Blackberry is great for business, but not (yet) a very good entertainment/consumption device. iPhone is a very good entertainment/consumption device, but pretty average when it comes to being an actual phone, certainly for business. However, for most people, it's more than adequate in that department.

Sankersizzle said:
Well, if the new iPhone doesn't come out in Canada by October 1st, I'll be getting a 9860, my 3GS is tired and wants to go to a better place.
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I'm quite sure that if they announce a launch date of October 7th, you'll be eating your words just like a lot of people on here.

MonkeySee.... said:
This is based on my own experience and those in my office so please don't mark me down.. or do, not really fussed.
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Obviously you are...
 
twitt3r said:
I'm quite sure that if they announce a launch date of October 7th, you'll be eating your words just like a lot of people on here.
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Well obviously if it's the 7th I'll wait the extra 6 days, but if we get it a month later like the iPhone 4, I'm throwing all my Apple products into a furnace and crying.

Not to mention that it will be impossible to get one for the first week... :p
 
Sankersizzle said:
Well obviously if it's the 7th I'll wait the extra 6 days, but if we get it a month later like the iPhone 4, I'm throwing all my Apple products into a furnace and crying.

Not to mention that it will be impossible to get one for the first week... :p
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Obviously eh? Your original statement was quite clear:

Sankersizzle said:
Well, if the new iPhone doesn't come out in Canada by October 1st, I'll be getting a 9860, my 3GS is tired and wants to go to a better place.
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Why say things like that when you don't mean it? As for them being impossible to get in the first week, I think you'll find that hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people will have one in the first week, so they can't be that hard to to come by.
 
twitt3r said:
Obviously eh? Your original statement was quite clear:



Why say things like that when you don't mean it? As for them being impossible to get in the first week, I think you'll find that hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people will have one in the first week, so they can't be that hard to to come by.
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Because we are people and not robots? If something doesn't occur on a prearranged day I won't turn blue and die. If it's coming out so soon after my arbitrary deadline of October 1st, I'll wait. A week isn't that long to wait since I've been waiting for two years. It's not like on October 1st my 3GS is going to bite me, leap from my hand and scamper away. October is just when I told myself I'd stop waiting. And you know exactly what I meant when I said "they'll be impossible to get" so I'm not going to indulge you on that one :p.
 
My ex and daughter both swear by Blackberries, so I think for some people they are the perfect solution to their communication needs.

However, BB's aren't for me. The thing I hate about BB's is actually their strongest selling point – BBM – for it informs the sender when you received their message. Guess what? I sometimes don't want the person sending me a message knowing when I received it, or indeed that I have received it. I look at my loved ones with Blackberries and see them acting like trained dogs whenever a BBM message arrives, slavishly responding within seconds because they know the sender knows they've seen the message. Yuck. Life is too short for that sort of thing... I'd love the other features of BBM though - it's quicker than texting, it's encrypted, and in general it seems more robust than texting or e-mailing. Apple should consider a similar service (indeed perhaps team up with RIM to create a compatible service).
 
VulchR said:
My ex and daughter both swear by Blackberries, so I think for some people they are the perfect solution to their communication needs.

However, BB's aren't for me. The thing I hate about BB's is actually their strongest selling point – BBM – for it informs the sender when you received their message. Guess what? I sometimes don't want the person sending me a message knowing when I received it, or indeed that I have received it. I look at my loved ones with Blackberries and see them acting like trained dogs whenever a BBM message arrives, slavishly responding within seconds because they know the sender knows they've seen the message. Yuck. Life is too short for that sort of thing... I'd love the other features of BBM though - it's quicker than texting, it's encrypted, and in general it seems more robust than texting or e-mailing. Apple should consider a similar service (indeed perhaps team up with RIM to create a compatible service).
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It isn't just people with BBs that act like trained dogs whenever they receive a message - the vast majority of people who get a text message have to drop what they are doing to read it otherwise they get withdrawal symptoms. Besides, since when does a read notification mean that somebody read it?

Apple teaming up with RIM...yeah right. If Apple really wanted the corporate market, they could have it. Guess what? They currently target consumers primarily.
 
VulchR said:
My ex and daughter both swear by Blackberries, so I think for some people they are the perfect solution to their communication needs.

However, BB's aren't for me. The thing I hate about BB's is actually their strongest selling point – BBM – for it informs the sender when you received their message. Guess what? I sometimes don't want the person sending me a message knowing when I received it, or indeed that I have received it. I look at my loved ones with Blackberries and see them acting like trained dogs whenever a BBM message arrives, slavishly responding within seconds because they know the sender knows they've seen the message. Yuck. Life is too short for that sort of thing... I'd love the other features of BBM though - it's quicker than texting, it's encrypted, and in general it seems more robust than texting or e-mailing. Apple should consider a similar service (indeed perhaps team up with RIM to create a compatible service).
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If you would rather avoid your friends and family than read your messages, your choice of smartphone isn't your problem... :rolleyes:

Besides, if you send someone a message via BBM and they leave it for a bit, the sender sees a "D", which means "delivered". Only when the person gets their phone out to look at the message does it turn into "R", which is "read". So if you don't get your BlackBerry out right away when you get a BBM message, the sender won't think you've already read it at all, they'll just know you received it, which is the same level of information you get from any other messaging medium.

Of course, if you read their message and just ignore them, they'll find out, which is quite a cool feature :p
 
0dev said:
Of course, if you read their message and just ignore them, they'll find out, which is quite a cool feature :p
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Believe it or not, not all messages require a response. Problem is, people want to have the last say, which is why you get saddos' racking up 5027 texts in 26 days.
 
twitt3r said:
Believe it or not, not all messages require a response. Problem is, people want to have the last say, which is why you get saddos' racking up 5027 texts in 26 days.
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If the message in question doesn't require a response, it shouldn't matter to you if they see you've read it or not, surely? In fact, it's helpful, because it tells them that you've seen their message without you having to tell them so.
 
0dev said:
If the message in question doesn't require a response, it shouldn't matter to you if they see you've read it or not, surely? In fact, it's helpful, because it tells them that you've seen their message without you having to tell them so.
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This is what I like about e-mail, I turn off all read notification requests. This nanny-state we live in where you are contactable and accountable at all times is getting just a little bit sad. I couldn't care less if somebody reads something or not. If it's important I'll more than likely make a phone call - mobiles are good at that you know :rolleyes:
 
twitt3r said:
This is what I like about e-mail, I turn off all read notification requests. This nanny-state we live in where you are contactable and accountable at all times is getting just a little bit sad. I couldn't care less if somebody reads something or not. If it's important I'll more than likely make a phone call - mobiles are good at that you know :rolleyes:
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If you send an e-mail and don't get a failed message notification from the postmaster, you can probably assume it sent, so that's irrelevant.
 
0dev said:
If you send an e-mail and don't get a failed message notification from the postmaster, you can probably assume it sent, so that's irrelevant.
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Just goes to show how a little knowledge can be dangerous.
 
The "read receipt" on BBM I find quite useful and would like to see it in iOS. Maybe it's because I'm a student who's always making bar plans and what not, but if I'm trying to organize a posse that's scattered about town, it's better to know who has read what. I didn't know how useful it would be until I borrowed my friends Blackberry for a night and organized some people. It was nice knowing that your message was received -for example, if we had a last minute change of plan as to which bar we were going to and someone was in the shower or something, we could make sure they got that message and read it, because some people don't check their phone before stuffing it in their pocket and going about their business.
 
0dev said:
So, so dangerous. God forbid that someone who has your e-mail address knows if you've received their message or not! :eek:
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More referring to your lack of knowledge on hoe e-mails are sent and received...
 
twitt3r said:
More referring to your lack of knowledge on hoe e-mails are sent and received...
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How do you mean? If I send an e-mail to someone and the delivery is unsuccessful, the e-mail provider will send a message with an error.
 
One thing I love about my Blackberry is it's ability to be used as a Bluetooth modem which is a huge plus considering the battery life these buggers get over any other smartphone platform I've ever used.

Sure it may not be swank with the nice touch screen phones everywhere, but it's a platform that refuses to die.
 
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