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I'm probably getting a 9700 soon. It's basically the same as the 9780 once you update it to OS6 and they're dirt cheap on eBay now the new generation of BlackBerries is out. Will make a nice change from my outdated Curve (which actually performs very well, I just like shiny things) :D

I have seen the 9780 for £279 it thats any good for you?
 
Why come on an Apple site to trumpet buying a Blackberry? Wouldn't you find more people who care on a Blackberry site?


You have to remember Apple doesn't have the greatest stuff out there.. People have their right to voice their opinion and give their advice...
 
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That I'm not really sure of.. I maybe downloaded the update about 3 weeks after it came out on ATT.. I have maybe no more than 10 apps on my BB. I could have gotten a bad download or something, don't really know.. I did like OS6 on the new torch though..

OS7 looks pretty promising..


James

My friend's 9700 has the absolute latest build (downloaded from CrackBerry, wiped the vender.xml) and it's butter smooth. Probably just needed time to iron out the kinks.

OS7 does indeed look promising, though I am a little upset that it's only being offered for the absolute latest devices.

Why come on an Apple site to trumpet buying a Blackberry? Wouldn't you find more people who care on a Blackberry site?

It's funny you say that, because people on BlackBerry forums don't whinge about people who bring up other platforms, they simply engage in a discussion or, if they're not interested, they don't post. They seem more mature than the people on MR.
 
I really really want the features and apps of an iPhone, but in a BlackBerry body.. Something about them is so awesome.

Problem is I know I can't have that, it doesn't exist. The closest I could do is the HTC Status. But I've had 3 Android phones before, I don't know if I could live with that again.

Guess I'll wait till I have money to burn, then I'll get the Status and experiment. But I think the moral of the story is... It'd be nice for Apple to do different form factors :p I wish..
 
My friend's 9700 has the absolute latest build (downloaded from CrackBerry, wiped the vender.xml) and it's butter smooth. Probably just needed time to iron out the kinks.

OS7 does indeed look promising, though I am a little upset that it's only being offered for the absolute latest devices.



It's funny you say that, because people on BlackBerry forums don't whinge about people who bring up other platforms, they simply engage in a discussion or, if they're not interested, they don't post. They seem more mature than the people on MR.


This is true.. Seems like a WHOLE LOT of people that use apple products are more snotty than people on other platforms...

I hope this does not offend anyone



James
 
android and blackberry forums have just as many whiners, snobs, and cry babies as mac rumors. not to mention the at&t and verizon forums are filled with them as well. its safe to assume most forums are crawling with them, present company excluded of course guys ;)
 
android and blackberry forums have just as many whiners, snobs, and cry babies as mac rumors. not to mention the at&t and verizon forums are filled with them as well. its safe to assume most forums are crawling with them, present company excluded of course guys ;)

I've seen a lot of open discussion of other platforms on CrackBerry with minimal trolling.
 
This is why I like a phone reviewer like Noah Kravitz who used to be with PhoneDog and is now with TechnoBuffalo. When you are a reviewer, you have to see it objectively and can't show any bias. He seems to be called out as an Apple fanboy, but he really is just a fan of great products with no real allegiances to brands. He gets paid to see to review different products extensively and not make a judgement based on 10 minute demo units at the store. When I think of phones, it is like wearing clothes. You don't want to wear the same clothes all the time. Or you don't want to wear the same brand of shoes or drive the same exact car from the same exact maker.

They each have their strengths and weaknesses. YMMV with those preferences and needs at that time. Think of X-Men. Each of them have a special superpower. I have a collection of phones and only try to see the good in them and have no favoritism. I see what they can bring to table. Like having potluck.

As a multimedia device, nothing beats iPhone though. As an all-around device, they are the best one. BlackBerries is acceptable enough with their multimedia and features, but still not on par with even Android. Apple's app support and ecosystem is stellar. But I also see a falling out with this app fad once you cut the lean from the fat and separate the wheat from the chaff. I know many longtime BB users who will never go back to BlackBerry. And I know some who is missing it now just for that physical keyboard and all the little things that makes them great like the multi-colored led lights, push e-mail, and BBM. Sometimes you don't want access to all those counter-productive apps and the most popular downloads at the App Store is just that - games or Kama Sutra/sex position apps.

The 9900 looks to have a much better web browsing experience and less memory leaks like the original Bold which only had 128MB of RAM like the first two iPhones. I was thinking Android because the Galaxy S II is FAST, but since I barely started using physical QWERTY on a phone this year and like it for the accuracy, I may just go BB 9900 just for that wonderful keyboard. Hope by Feb 2012 (six months later), I can get it much cheaper like $99 or less at some retailer like Best Buy.

Obama is up for re-election next year. He will be a huge endorser for BlackBerry again. Like they say, BlackBerry is for business and iPhone is for pleasure.

I remember when :apple: & BlackBerry were just healthy fruits and not phones yet...

THE BLACKER THE BERRY THE SWEETER THE JUICE
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Apps are not the end all/be all of a smartphone experience.

For example, I have an iPhone 4 and like it a lot. I have 38 non-stock apps on my phone and really only use about 6 of them (Facebook, Twitter, Remote, TWC, Find My iPhone, and Dropbox). I have a dozen or so games on here that I really never play, but they sit there anyway.

As far as the browser goes....yes, it is very slow on the 8900. But you have to remember that you are using a Curve, Blackberry's entry level model.....and one that is over two years old at that. Testing the Blackberry's browser of one of the current generation models would be better to get an idea of what you can get out of the device.

Personally...I like Blackberry devices. They are solidly built and are great for PIM management and communications. The new Bold Touch is pretty interesting, but it is (ironically) the e-mail issues that keep me with my iPhone. It is too weird to me that in this day in age that RIM cannot get their phones to handle IMAP e-mail. Add that together with the fact that any message over 2MB gets truncated and it becomes a deal breaker for me.

But just because it doesn't fit my needs (and apparently yours) doesn't make it a bad device. Just not something that you probably should have started using in the first place.

I also keep my spare 9650... (incase I move to another country, or I lose my phone). I like it a lot but not as much as I like my iPhone.

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My ex and daughter both swear by Blackberries, so I think for some people they are the perfect solution to their communication needs.

However, BB's aren't for me. The thing I hate about BB's is actually their strongest selling point – BBM – for it informs the sender when you received their message. Guess what? I sometimes don't want the person sending me a message knowing when I received it, or indeed that I have received it. I look at my loved ones with Blackberries and see them acting like trained dogs whenever a BBM message arrives, slavishly responding within seconds because they know the sender knows they've seen the message. Yuck. Life is too short for that sort of thing... I'd love the other features of BBM though - it's quicker than texting, it's encrypted, and in general it seems more robust than texting or e-mailing. Apple should consider a similar service (indeed perhaps team up with RIM to create a compatible service).

Apple IS making a similar service. Its called 'iMessage' lol :)
 
I bought my Blackberry Bold Touch / 9900 on release day, August 10th.

The keyboard is smooth as silk, like the original Bold's keyboard. That's what made me buy the 9900 again, lusting for that keyboard. *

So I got my 9900 noticed the OS seems about the same, just faster. *Not much has changed with regards how you set it up, change options, switch app's etc. *

It seems to take 3 times as many steps to do anything compared to my iPhone4. *Not as easy or 'fun' to use as my iPhone, that's for sure. *

But for longer emails, text etc the keyboard seems so natural, of course that's the draw of the Blackberry and why I bought the 9900. *

To my surprise I REALLY missed everything about my iphone, viewing, typing, scrolling, web, all the excellent software I was more attached and in tune with my iPhone than I realized. *

For typing on my iPhone I guess somewhere I got really good and fast with it. *So much so I didn't see the need to carry a Blackberry like I used to. *

I've owned so many blackberry's since Rims beginning back to the days of the 957, I'm a Waterloo boy, glad to support RIM and I wanted to make it work.

Couldn't do it, the iPhone is so superior in many other ways that it weighs out the benefit of the keyboard. *And, I'm as good typing on my iPhone as I was on the BB. *Practice I guess is what did it. **

For the last years since iPhone was released i owned and used them all, during that time I also kept trying (and returning)Bblackberries. *I was sure it was going to be different with this new Bold. *

I wasn't fond of the trackpad, the touchscreen is jumpy or too sensitive even after adjusting screen sensitivity etc, the screen is so small....

For me the BB is no longer a good all around device, the iPhone is better. *For text and emailing if you like physical keyboards and don't want to learn a touch keyboard then the Blackberry is a great phone. *

Overall I was pretty disappointed with the Bold, returned it yesterday, I'm back to my iPhone and happy. *

Maybe their new just released full touchscreen phone would be better for me, but I remember the Storm too well and I didn't like the touch screen on this 9900, then t's unlikely I'll like the 9860 Touch.... Not worth the hassle of buying and returning to find out I don't think. *

That's my experience, no expert review. *I'm heavy smartphone user ...a CEO who replies to emails around the world the all day/night 7 days a week. * I prefer my 11" Air to reply, it's faster, easier to send attachments, I use it along with my iPhone and iPad with my 11" and it works really well.

Couldn't give up my iPhone to replace it with a new Bold, I considered carrying both, But really, carrying two phones? That's too much so my iPhone4 wins and I'll be in line for the iPhone 5.

I sound like a fan boy, maybe I'm becoming one, we've switched to using a lot of Apple products not because we're Apple fanatics, in fact I used to hate them and their prices ... BUT time and time again Apple products are truly proving themselves best for our business and personal needs. *

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I like my BB Bold 9000 so far as a spare phone. I think the 9900 looks impressive with its attention to detail from the front and back and much better web browsing experience. That could be my next phone once I sell the 9000 and my contract is up in six months. it could go down as my 2nd fav phone behind the iPhone 4. I think the Bold 9000 and 9900 represents a masculinity. A brute for the powerful CEO out there.

I think apps can be overkill just like 12MP or quad core processors. I have 82 apps from the App Store and more than half of them that I rarely use. And if I want to know the info, I can always go the site. I think people either need to get used to it or need to have realistic expectations with BB. And if they can't, then switch back. Alot of BB users think iPhone is merely a "toy" you get bored of once the novelty of apps wears off. The image brand for BlackBerry is they are for Hollywood celebrities who aren't tech heads or some of the most powerful men in the corporate world. The bosses' phone.

I love that RIM is known for great reception and messaging. And they are also known for long battery life and SECURITY. Back to the basics on what made them great in the first place. Cut back the excess and clutter known as apps.

If you want to go back to being more productive and serious in life, I can see why people stick with BlackBerry. If you want to take life less seriously, I can see why people stick with iPhone with the many counter-productive apps like Angry Birds and Instagram. Most celebs or politicians don't have time to waste time on apps, listening to music, playing games, or streaming YouTube videos all day. BlackBerry has been around since the two-way pager days and had a phone by 2003. Their "niche" following won't disappear overnight just like the Mac line didn't disappear either.

BlackBerry represents the premium BUSINESS phone for professionals. The CEO phone. A communication device.

iPhone can sometimes represents an iToy for college kids who love to post drunken pics of themselves on Facebook and get "bored" of some UI. That is a toy. Something you get bored with after the initial gimmicks wear off once you are done "playing" with it. Do people complain about how boring their desktop OS is? Steve Jobs has made iOS fans into "spoiled children." Go to an Apple Store. A bunch of kids and grown men playing video games.

Jon Rettinger (known Apple fanboy) already moved away from iOS and has been using BlackBerry for over 3 months now as a main phone. Considering all he wants from a phone mostly is to check his messages, it works for him. He will always have his iPad 2 around for iOS.


BlackBerry 9900 Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=lYZ_XN5ooAU

Hey hold on there ... I'm a CEO and I deal with CEO's from around the world and you would eat your words if you knew how many have already switched to the iPhone or Android phones.

It's public knowledge RIM is worried about loosing corporate market share.

Many teenagers can't afford iPhones and instead get blackberries, BB messenger is a huge draw for teenagers.

Your post is factually incorrect, way off.
 
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