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Just Recieved OWC Extreme Pro 6G SSD: Ordered From The UK

now im having problems with the ssd, i installed crucial 8gb ram yesterday and immediately iv noticed that im getting beach balls intermittently, especially from sleep. Did a full restore which seemed to help but then to test I left my machine to sleep for 5 hours and when I lifted the lid I got a beach ball. :(
 
My OWC 120GB SATA 3 has been running smoothly in my MBP 2010 for the whole day =) (without TRIM enabled)
 
huythanhv2 said:
My OWC 120GB SATA 3 has been running smoothly in my MBP 2010 for the whole day =) (without TRIM enabled)
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TRIM really is not needed on these drives that's why.

Sandforce controllers are excellent at garbage collection so they don't need it.

Anyway why did you get a sata 3 drive when your mbp isnt sata 3 compatible? waste of money
 
romeo21 said:
now im having problems with the ssd, i installed crucial 8gb ram yesterday and immediately iv noticed that im getting beach balls intermittently, especially from sleep. Did a full restore which seemed to help but then to test I left my machine to sleep for 5 hours and when I lifted the lid I got a beach ball. :(
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Did you try putting the original RAM back in? or reseating the new RAM? If it didn't start until you added the new RAM its not SSD related.

On a side note do you have a 17in?
 
A surprise this morning.

My order for 240GB which was estimated 20+ days lead time has shipped last night and 160GB Intel 320 arrived this morning. Will be installing 320 during lunch time and do another install on OWC drive tomorrow after work :D
 
MastaK said:
A surprise this morning.

My order for 240GB which was estimated 20+ days lead time has shipped last night and 160GB Intel 320 arrived this morning. Will be installing 320 during lunch time and do another install on OWC drive tomorrow after work :D
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Would really appreciate feedback from you regarding this drive. I know it's going to perform well but I am more interested in the effect it has on your battery life as the power consumption has increased 2 fold from its SATA 2 predecessor.
 
MastaK said:
A surprise this morning.

My order for 240GB which was estimated 20+ days lead time has shipped last night and 160GB Intel 320 arrived this morning. Will be installing 320 during lunch time and do another install on OWC drive tomorrow after work :D
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Damn you. Not a word and I ordered the 13th. Mine said 8 days when I ordered.
 
romeo21 said:
It was working fine before i installed the RAM upgrade
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Installing RAM caused you to reboot. It is a known issue that once your reboot (some people 1st reboot, some second) after enabling trim, you get beach balls. The huge thread on the TRIM enabler has loads of sandforce users reporting this. There is no fix other than to remove trim.
 
Locodice said:
Would really appreciate feedback from you regarding this drive. I know it's going to perform well but I am more interested in the effect it has on your battery life as the power consumption has increased 2 fold from its SATA 2 predecessor.
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You are really being over paranoid. People got MAYBE 15min of battery life, most reported less than that, from moving to an SSD, and that is from some of the worst HDD's. Moving from SATA2 to SATA3 is maybe 7 minutes of battery life at most. The Peak W is still well under what a mechanical HD uses, and it will see peak W less than a Mechanical HDD as its is much faster. So it still probably has a lower W average than the HDD.
 
Just installed Intel 320 160GB and this thing already flies :eek:

I can't wait for OWC drive now :D
 
altecXP said:
You are really being over paranoid.
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I hope I am, just a bit alarming seeing the power consumption comparison.

Taken from macperformanceguide.com

The new OWC 6G SSD uses much more power than the prior 3G lineup, and in exchange, it delivers top-notch performance.

The higher power draw is due to the use of Synchronous NAND Flash (the memory chips). Any design for high performance using these chips is going to have similar power draw. Other designs with asynchronous chips are possible, but these will be lower performance.

Comparing power usage — 3G vs 6G SSD
The key difference is that when idle, the 6G SSD draws up to 2 watts, or 22X the power of the 3G design.

OWC 240GB 3G SSD
Active: 2200mW (2.2W) typical, up to 2500mW (2.5W)
Inactive (DIPM): 90mW (.09W) Typical

OWC 240GB 6G SSD
Active: 3700mW (3.7W) expected maximum draw
Inactive (DIPM): less than 2000mW (2W)
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Personally, from everything I'm reading, I'd rather have the "obsolete" 3 gigabit SATA drive with 34nm flash memory than the 6 gigabit one on 25nm memory. More reliable, less power draw and still plenty of speed.
 
dblissmn said:
Personally, from everything I'm reading, I'd rather have the "obsolete" 3 gigabit SATA drive with 34nm flash memory than the 6 gigabit one on 25nm memory. More reliable, less power draw and still plenty of speed.
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I'm inclined to think that way too. I've read many reports saying that for everyday use you won't notice that much difference between them.
 
Glen Quagmire said:
@romeo21: how much were shipping and import duties?
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Exactly what i wanted to know? VAT will be 20% and there are no important duties for hard drives - according to HMS customs and excise - i checked when i last ordered a owc sata-2 120gb ssd!

@OP: have the sleep issues resolved when restoring back to stock RAM and/or disabling the TRIM hack?
 
Locodice said:
I hope I am, just a bit alarming seeing the power consumption comparison.

Taken from macperformanceguide.com
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Let's do some math there.

The 6G SSD consumes 1.2 Watt more than the 3G SSD under maximum load, and it consumes a maximum of 1.91 Watt more when idle (in reality it should be less).

The 13" MBP battery is rated at 63.5 Watt / hour, the 15" MBP battery is rated at 77.5 Watt / hour, and the 17" is rated at 95 Watt / hour.

So let's assume the worst case scenario: you have a 13" MBP (smallest battery), and your SSD is 100% idle (consumes most extra wattage)

So you will lose:
(1.91 / 63.5) * 60 * 60 = 108.28 seconds per hour of the battery life

All MBP batteries are rated at 7 hours, so in total you will lose:
(108.28 / 60) * 7 = 12.63 minutes of your total battery life

It's up to you to decide if that 12.63 minutes is a deal breaker or not.
 
Daytona 360 said:
Let's do some math there.

The 6G SSD consumes 1.2 Watt more than the 3G SSD under maximum load, and it consumes a maximum of 1.91 Watt more when idle (in reality it should be less).

The 13" MBP battery is rated at 63.5 Watt / hour, the 15" MBP battery is rated at 77.5 Watt / hour, and the 17" is rated at 95 Watt / hour.

So let's assume the worst case scenario: you have a 13" MBP (smallest battery), and your SSD is 100% idle (consumes most extra wattage)

So you will lose:
(1.91 / 63.5) * 60 * 60 = 108.28 seconds per hour of the battery life

All MBP batteries are rated at 7 hours, so in total you will lose:
(108.28 / 60) * 7 = 12.63 minutes of your total battery life

It's up to you to decide if that 12.63 minutes is a deal breaker or not.
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According to the numbers above its .9w vs 2w that 1.1 not 1.91, so thats:
(1.1 / 63.5) * 60 * 60 = 62.3seconds

Against a HDD 500GB 7200RPM(average 1w idle):
(0.1 /63.5) * 60 * 60 = 5.6s

So a SATA3 SSD is ~57seconds worse for battery vs the HDD.

As the same time the SSD may peak @ 3.7w vs the HDD's 2.2w but it will do over 4times the data in that time, so while the HDD will be using a total of 8.8w vs the SATA3 3.7w and the SATA2 5w, so in a computer that actually uses it's drive often the SATA3 will save power.
 
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