LOL at the characters in here trying to claim that if nothing useful is found on the terrorist's phone, it was a waste of taxpayer money for law enforcement to try really hard to search a terrorist's phone.
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Justice Department Officially Drops Lawsuit Against Apple in Ongoing iPhone Unlocking Dispute [Updated]
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They didn't hack sh**... Farook had the passcode on a piece of paper in his underwear drawer
It already is a fairly quick process. This wasn't about having the technical ability or being able to get into it quicker in a technical manner, this was all about the legal hurdles. They hoped they could get sympathy which would allow them to change laws and make accessing suspect data require less legal hassle than it does now.
As has been stated here before...how do you think jailbreaks happen? Apple never claimed that you couldn't hack their phone. It's the data that they want to protect, and they've achieved that with the secure enclave found in recent phones.
Delusional, alright.
The sad truth is you are quite on point. Thankfully, public backlash was significant enough to force their hand in this case. This all comes down to timing and they had bad timing. Just wait until something similar to 9/11 occurs and people let their emotions get to them and this will fly under the radar all in the name of keeping you safe by revoking your freedom.
Shutting down the process of democracy? Silence the issue? Do you even understand what was going on or what you are saying? The FBI's request and Apple's responses were JUDICIAL matters for the courts. Courts interpret laws, they do not make them, so there is no "democracy" involved with this matter. However, since Apple was so intransigent about not assisting the FBI, this has caught the eyes of Congress, so you can be sure that they will be looking into this matter. So you are flat wrong when you say that democracy has been shut down by this. On the contrary, it is just beginning, and the outcome will likely be one that you, Apple, and the rest of the anti-law enforcement types do not like.
You just described the perfect phones for terrorists, pedophiles, rapists, murderers, cop killers, kidnappers and drug dealers. You're a genius!! A whole new growth market segment for Apple! Somebody call Phil Schiller!!
These terrorists didn't wipe the phones, they crushed them. And their computer hard drive. Only left one phone with no links to their buddies.
They didn't hack sh**... Farook had the passcode on a piece of paper in his underwear drawer
Lol, but I don't think it was that simple.
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Lolololol....
Ok, buddy.
Glad to see that the "poor little FBI" has a cheerleader, when going up against Apple in an attempt to undermine the freedom, security, and privacy of us all.
Glad to hear that shaking your tiny impotent fist at the sky & cursing those who would fight to protect you and uphold your rights makes you feel whole or whatever.
It's funny that your definition of "figured it out on their own" is after getting told to get stuffed by one tech company when pressing them to do it for them, turning to a different tech company, less scrupulous.
Lol, if I can't cheat off one guy in class... so I cheat off another guy- do I have that subject "figured out myself"?
1)the FBI attempted to force Apple to do something
2)they gave up & went a different route
3)you claim "victory" for the FBI & egg on Apple's face?
4)I laugh until I fall off my chair
Yeah. Some people love technology so much they never bother ask the moral questions before they do something. I sat in a meeting a while back where our IT head had signed on to some customer tracking software to track the customers and the thrust of the meeting was to decide what information his department should be gathering post implementation from people's phones. He indicated he was already capturing everything. Thank God there was a lawyer in the room.
All of whom have easy access to serious security anyway, if they're so inclined. Being major felons, they're not concerned about "misdemeanor possession of a no-backdoor encryption program".
Before arguing that the government _should_ have easy access (backdoors etc) to data security systems, consider that governments are just a bunch of people just as prone to committing major felonies - except they have the power, money, & legitimacy of the state backing them. There are PLENTY of governments & agents thereof who have destroyed a whole lotta lives by acquiring access to their data.
D@mn straight I'd rather your list have access to strong crypto, rather than ensure tyrants have access to the data of those trying to overthrow oppressive governments.
Of course they won't. They got their backdoor from someone else and they're not about to let anyone, least of all Apple, know how they got in, otherwise they'll lose it.
I hope Apple does some investigation of their own into how they might have successfully breached the device's security and is able to counteract the attack. Not just because the FBI can get into US citizens' private phones, but because China, for example, now knows that there's a defeat to both citizens and government devices.
Unfortunately, that will land everybody in court the next time around again -- at least until Apple is able to follow through their intention to make it so that even they can't retrieve a single bit or byte.
But who is going to spend 15K to hack my phone. I don't think anyone is that interested. I think our phones are still safe from the average thief who is not an expert hacker or has the funds or the inclination to pay a company to break into it.
Another of the many steps this administration has executed in an effort to build a police state. It is amazing that most people don't know about this and don't seem to care.
+1 for the word "Vacuous", I had to look it up and now I learned something new LOL
That is valid while you're alive, not once you're dead like that terrorist is.
That's just marketing at the Government level.
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Apple said:
For everything else, there's MasterCard
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I was citing a case that happened somewhere fairly recently, where a nutter went on a killing spree in a cinema. None of the audience had a gun to take him out, so they had to wait for the police. In the several minutes it took for the police to arrive, he shot dead dozens of people.
It is morally responsible to own and carry a gun. It is morally negligent not to do so.
Makes you wonder what "Think Tank" leveraged by the tech companies will write this forthcoming legislation and what lobbying groups this same collection of companies own(s) will lead to drive the bill forward.
Whatever the outcome or path forward, I do hope the next administration guts the DOJ. Between the racial issue handling, the privacy exception handling, the clemency mess, and now this CALEA/Conscription mess, there needs to be a housecleaning.
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You do realize that Apple has not unlocked any phone? They have extracted data from devices and the cloud. They have yet to actually unlock one.
Yep, but it's worst than that. (1) a lawful warrant was issued, and (2) the owner of the phone consented to the search.
Contrary to what the amateur Perry Masons here think, the 4th amendment simply does not have any relevance to this matter at all.