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Justice Department Officially Drops Lawsuit Against Apple in Ongoing iPhone Unlocking Dispute [Updated]
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We don't know that, nor do we know how much information they got or what it even means to "access" the phone. They could've gotten absolute gibberish but still claimed - for publicity's sake - that they found something.
Others are totally right when they claim this is more than just a phone. The Feds didn't want to set bad legal precedent in the courts. That's what this is about. Not just one phone.
*10 AM tomorrow morning*
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Not really. Its just more of the same. Either the FBI will wait till they have a better case and try again or they'll get a security order and do it behind close doors. This is the government, its never over.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Traitorous fascists. I look forward to the coming civil war.
Traitorous fascists. I look forward to the coming civil war.
Not really. Apple's intransigence on this issue has caught the eye of Congress, and not in a good way for them. There is no way they are going to allow device manufacturers to make devices that are warrant-proof by the government. Other industries, notably the telephone and banking industries, must make their products and services in a way that allows access under lawful judicially approved search warrants. Why should Apple be special?
This is not over, believe me, and it's likely to get worse for Apple as time goes on. As I said from the beginning of this whole affair, whatever the outcome, Apple will not like it.
Not that it has no obligation, but that Congress passed CALEA to in fact PREVENT the FBI/government from doing exactly what the FBI has tried to do.
I didn't say that they must or are compelled to inform Apple. I asked ARE they going to inform Apple. The FBI is under no obligation to inform Apple, as much as, by law, Apple has no obligation to help the FBI.
Pardon me, but if I were working at the FBI, this wouldn’t sound like a reasonable position to me. As you would say, It's Asinine!!
Your pardon is begged. But don't blame me for reading comprehension failure. That... is asinine.
BL.
Uh, the original FBI search warrant and writ met these requirements. It complied with the 4th amendment fully.
I agree with you mostly. Still, human nature being what it is, unless they find a way to head it off there will be lots of others looking to leverage this. This was far too publicized to sneak away.
Kind of torn between "Yay thank GOD it's over" and worried about security vulnerabilities.
I wouldn't count on it after all the government wants phones less secure not more lol
I wouldn't count on it after all the government wants phones less secure not more lol
So you're worried about losing your iPhone at Starbucks and someone paying an Isreali company to open it? Pretty crappy security alright.
Apple should be able to countersue for having to waste their money on lawyers to defend this crap lawsuit when the plaintiff suddenly withdraws.
Israeli company today, neighborhood hacker tomorrow.
Haven't you all been claiming "slippery slope" since the beginning of this story? No longer?
Only if the neighborhood hacker has a BGA rework tool, bus analyzer and iOS binary native format covered tools. What was does is some very intense intrusion rework on the iPhone motherboard to get the data. We are talking about $10K in equipment to start to hit that.
This is actually great news. Apple can now refuse to comply with the 10-20 other cases where law enforcement is asking Apple for help. They can refer these cases to the FBI.
And yet these tools have existed for years. The company that helped the FBI in this case has been doing it for more than 10 years now. People aren't going to suddenly care. Wired did a pissy writeup about how our tool was "shady" because it allowed the government to rip out passwords, browsing history, text messages and more from a suspect computer (keep in mind that they have a judge signed court order to do so legally at the time). They were pissed we wouldn't give them a copy of the software as they aren't our target audience and publicity with some silly publication like Wired does nothing for a company pushing their product to government buyers.
People may be talking about this now but give it a couple weeks and all will be back to normal. The media will focus on the Kardashians again and MacRumors will turn your attention to some other silly topic like how Night Shift may increase sperm count.
Correct. And the most likely outcome is that the *second* time this is used (with a living suspect) it will be a part of discovery and the world will know. My money is on replay attack which is already much more difficult in subsequent iPhone models and can be made nearly impossible with some modification to the hardware by Apple.
I call "fake" on this report that somebody broke into the phone.