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Black Flag - If you ever have a chance to see Henry Rollins "talk" live, I urge you to go. He gets up and talks non-stop for hours about what he's been up to, and he is completely enthralling. So intense. Doesn't matter what he's talking about, it'll be interesting. One time he talked about taking a trip to the Middle East to just wander around and meet people to understand them better. At a time when it was especially bad to be a single American wandering around the area.
James Brown - too many years ago, a friend had a little hand-held sample-box, that was James Brown embellishments in your hand - "Hit Me!" was one of the four buttons it had. Man I miss that little thing.
The Grateful Dead - saw them a bunch live. Jerry's artistry was transcendent, his guitar work was like filigree work, like Leonardo doing all the little fiddly details on the Sistine Chapel's ceiling. From a distance, it averages out to sound just like the song everyone's playing, but up close, there was so much more detail, he was decorating everything fractal-like along the way.
Jimi Hendrix - Jimi's performance of "Red House" from Live at Winterland, is one of my favorite recordings ever (October 11, 1968, 1st show, 11m32s, and yes, it has to be this particular one). SO blues, much slow wailing.
Lady Gaga - Extremely media-savvy, agreed, but instead of just screaming "look at me", she makes herself worth lookng at and listening to. Tons of talent and following in Bowie's glam/fantasy footsteps.
Madonna - Yes, past her prime, but solid musical talent, and had an excellent ability to reinvent herself.
Nine Inch Nails - Best musician-related quote ever - Tori Amos: "Sometimes I think Trent really just needs a cup of hot chocolate and a blankie."
Parliament - Beavis had it right, "Bootsy's COOL!" The judges would have also accepted Victor Wooten, Tony Levin, Phil Lesh, or Geddy Lee.
Santana - Was really phenomenal live, brought an umpteen-piece percussion section.

In other news, I think I might need to marry you.

That Tori Amos quote is fantastic, I'm filing it away in the back of my brain :)

Also, with Stevie and Jimi in the same list I should have said something about Voodoo Chile. I love both versions but I think Stevie's just slightly edges out Jimi's. I'm going to track down the version of Red House you mentioned.

There are a few folks that are nominally musicians that I like but prefer their spoken word work. Jello Biafra comes to mind too. All I had known of Henry was his work fronting Black Flag and then I saw one of his "Live at XYZ" specials and it opened up a whole new dimension of the guy for me. I've never had the opportunity to see him live in a show but I'd clear my schedule to make it happen.
 
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So? Alvin and The Chipmunks and Milli Vannili also have won Grammy's that doesn't make either of them 'legitimate.'
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Actually he said 'NEVER NEVER NEVER' but guess he has to come up with his 53 million somehow...
[doublepost=1459235848][/doublepost]Instead of Tidal why didn't he make this a Pono store or Windows phone exclusive! Would probably reach a larger audience.

You sound so stupid I can't even handle it. Yes there are exceptions when the Grammy's make "wrong decisions", that includes Milli Vannili etc, but Kanye has TWENTY ONE GRAMMY'S. When you score 1, 2, or even 3- call it luck, call it a fluke. But 21, you're a moron if you try to ignore that recognition. Case closed.
 
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One of the greatest artists of all time. Wildly misunderstood and childish at times, but as far as artistic talent, one of the best.

Ha!good one
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Even if you want to try to derail the legitimacy of GQ and Rolling Stone, how about the Grammy's? Are you going to find a way to argue their lack of legitimacy as well? Go ahead and look at the rankings. There are only 9 other artists that have won more Grammy's than Kanye West. Sorry, but you look ignorant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_records#Most_Grammys_won

The grammy's is just a popularity contest. For God's sake Taylor Swift won album of the year LOL
 
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I guess someone is so broke that they had to give up their charade?

He said the album will not be on Apple Music. The album is still not on Apple Music. You need to double check your sources.
 
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You go ahead and tell me whose album got a perfect 5 stars from Rolling Stone
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy-20101109

Then, go ahead and tell me whose album was declared best album of the CENTURY according to GQ
http://www.gq.com/story/21-best-albums-of-the-21st-century?currentPage=1

Sorry, but I don't think Rolling Stone and GQ is "no one".

You know labels buy that advertisement, no?

Let me tell you a story....

Here in Miami is this dude called Emilio Estefan, he is the husband of Gloria Estefan... Emilio owns several radios stations, productions companies and record labels. He take anybody, make an artists out of that person, that person win some Grammys BECAUSE he is the one who handles the programming at the radio station so he can rotate the person he wants, his artist.

He introduce every single person involved into the production of the album into the Grammys. So... the assistant engineer all of the sudden has a nomination he never applied to. Is like buying likes in Facebook. So the album end sup with several nominations out of the blue.

Why? because he makes money from the promotions and management. They are a bubble.

4 years later you see the girl he was managing with several Grammies, walking her dog in the park, no job, no concerts, forgotten... Soooo many people are into that situation. The same was going to happen to Shakira ages ago and she escaped! She broke contract with Emilio and she got Pepsi as an sponsor, that was late 90's.

So forget about Kanye West being bigger than Freddy Mercury, Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Jackson Five, The Beatles... just to name a few. He is just a product, a nitch. Like Sined O Connor was, Shampoo was, Spice Girl was, Blind Mellon was, Bjork was.
 
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You know labels buy that advertisement, no?

Let me tell you a story....

Here in Miami is this dude called Emilio Estefan, he is the husband of Gloria Estefan... Emilio owns several radios stations, productions companies and record labels. He take anybody, make an artists out of that person, that person win some Grammys BECAUSE he is the one who handles the programming at the radio station so he can rotate the person he wants, his artist.

He introduce every single person involved into the production of the album into the Grammys. So... the assistant engineer all of the sudden has a nomination he never applied to. Is like buying likes in Facebook. So the album end sup with several nominations out of the blue.

Why? because he makes money from the promotions and management. They are a bubble.

4 years later you see the girl he was managing with several Grammies, walking her dog in the park, no job, no concerts, forgotten... Soooo many people are into that situation. The same was going to happen to Shakira ages ago and she escaped! She broke contract with Emilio and she got Pepsi as an sponsor, that was late 90's.

So forget about Kanye West being bigger than Freddy Mercury, Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Jackson Five, The Beatles... just to name a few. He is just a product, a nitch. Like Sined O Connor was, Shampoo was, Spice Girl was, Blind Mellon was, Bjork was.

Now let me tell you a story. Kanye has been producing beats and/or rapping for nearly two decades. Based on your artists you chose to compare him to, I think you need to reassess how temporary he is in the music scene. He is the most influential musical artist currently on our planet right now. Sorry if that's a tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth.
 
He is the most influential musical artist currently on our planet right now. Sorry if that's a tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth.
And, everybody, it's definitely the truth, because lupend88 has told you 21 times. If he had told you 2 or 3 or 5 times, then sure, it might not really be the truth, but 21 times? Clearly it has to be the truth. WAKE UP PEOPLE!
 
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And, everybody, it'd definitely the truth, because lupend88 has told you 21 times. If he had told you 2 or 3 or 5 times, then sure, it might not really be the truth, but 21 times? Clearly it has to be the truth. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

At the end of the day, when music is so subjective to begin with, the closest thing you can grasp to objective fact is critical acclaim, in which Kanye does exceptionally well. Sorry, but you lost.
 
Now let me tell you a story. Kanye has been producing beats and/or rapping for nearly two decades. Based on your artists you chose to compare him to, I think you need to reassess how temporary he is in the music scene. He is the most influential musical artist currently on our planet right now. Sorry if that's a tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth.


As an example Freddy Mercury, Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, Nas, Led Zeppelin, Diana Ross, Janis Joplin, Run DMC, Guns N' Roses, Biggie, The Who, Mos Def, Chuck Berry, The Ramones, Snoop Dog and Journey never won a Grammy...

But Milli Vanilli won the Grammy for best new artist in 1990, so OBVIOUSLY these awards are the best indicator of talent and artistry lol.
 
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As an example Freddy Mercury, Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, Nas, Led Zeppelin, Diana Ross, Janis Joplin, Run DMC, Guns N' Roses, Biggie, The Who, Mos Def, Chuck Berry, The Ramones, Snoop Dog and Journey never won a Grammy...

But Milli Vanilli won the Grammy for best new artist in 1990, so OBVIOUSLY these awards are the best indicator of talent and artistry lol.

I don't know what you want me to tell you. Again, like I said, The Grammy's makes some weird decisions sometimes, in the same way The Oscars or any sort of award ceremony does. But after an individual has won 21 times, you can't dismiss or ignore that. Sorry but your argument is at a dead end.
 
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Still nobody will listen to it.
You were right.

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