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So you'd be ok with anything less than that for a performance machine?
Tell your government to stop devaluing your currency. It's not Apple's fault the Canadian dollar is weak.
Enough of the “price keeps going up - - - blah blah blah “. As Reported by the Verge - Sticking with facts on pricing, versus Model year 2017
Both the 2017 and 2018 models have the same starting prices: $2,799 for the “high-end” version of the 15-inch computer, with a faster processor, better GPU, and twice the SSD storage as the $2,399 “base” 15-inch model. Like last year, Apple offers a $300 upgrade to an even better Intel processor — here from a 2.6GHz Core i7 chip to a 2.9GHz Core i9 — and storage upgrades to 1TB (an extra $400) or 2TB (an extra $1,200) for the same $4,299 price as last year’s specced-out machine.
The difference is that Apple is also offering two new options for 2018. You can pay an extra $400 for 32GB of RAM or an extra $3,200 for 4TB of storage. Together, those push the price up to that $6,699 figure.
Both the 2017 and 2018 models have the same starting prices: $2,799 for the “high-end” version of the 15-inch computer, with a faster processor, better GPU, and twice the SSD storage as the $2,399 “base” 15-inch model. Like last year, Apple offers a $300 upgrade to an even better Intel processor — here from a 2.6GHz Core i7 chip to a 2.9GHz Core i9 — and storage upgrades to 1TB (an extra $400) or 2TB (an extra $1,200) for the same $4,299 price as last year’s specced-out machine.
The difference is that Apple is also offering two new options for 2018. You can pay an extra $400 for 32GB of RAM or an extra $3,200 for 4TB of storage. Together, those push the price up to that $6,699 figure.
Good luck with that.
Most of the world is happy using USB-A and the only niche whining about USB-C are a minority of MBP owners.
How many generations did the previous “non-butterfly” mechanisms keyboard on the Mac laptop lineup have? Serious question.
There is a reason why we are at the third generation of this version of the keyboard, it does not work and something is off. The same butterfly mechanism is used on the iPad Pro Smark Keyboard Cover, and the fabric is what makes the difference I suspect.
Put the same fabric on the MBP, and maybe we would not be on generation 3, just a thought I am not sure if it will improve things or not.
No one is really looking for a high redesign, people are just requesting for some I/O used on a daily basis without having to purchase and carry around dongle. I feel Apple is being stubborn in this area and not wanting to admit their made a mistake. I get it USB-C is the future connector, however there is a thing called a transitional phase, where a product has the majority of the present ports used, some future ports and drop some unused ports. Replacing the previous Thunderbolt 2 ports with the USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 ports would have been the best of both worlds and a happy median for many pro-users. However Apple said, screw those pro-users and capitalize on dongles and inconvenience users to carry these around. It is not a clean, minimal solution. It is anything but elegant and is very un-Apple like of a product. Poorly designed and executed to claim, “Hey we have a product!”
TouchBar is also in the wrong plane on the device. An overworked and underperforming Apple intern must have designed this MBP. I smh as to how this product even got the green light.
9to5 did a write up on it. Someone was able to return an mbp that was purchased last month. It’s not guaranteed, but the article recommends that you go to your locale store.
Thanks for the reply! I’ll search for the article and head to my store as soon as I return from work on Monday. I’m not holding my breath but I am kicking myself for being that guy who bought the last of the old generation.
There is nothing wrong with the connector of USB-A, only people who had trouble initially were not accustom to it. We have established that the majority know how to insert and remove from a USB-A port.
USB-C is a solution to a problem, reversible that only cater to a market to produce more rubbish accessories that nobody cares for. Other than the technical aspects of a one connect to deliver power, data, video, etc it has had minimal adoption in the broader market. USB-A will be around for another 5+ years.
What next micro USB-C connectors for phones?
What on earth are you attempting to go on about? This major refresh "proves" nothing except they like to update their products from time to time like literally any company ever that makes anything, at all. Did you expect a full redesign, again? Snoozer refreshes? What exactly do you want? Be specific, don't rant like the 13 year olds on YouTube you mentioned in the post. Latest-gen Intel CPUs, decent GPUs (not the best period, but certainly powerful enough for most work), the best SSDs in the industry at the biggest capacities you can fit in these things, 32 gb of RAM, one of the best, if not the best display in the industry, the best industrial design and build quality in the industry, the best touchpad in the industry, and, obviously, running the OS most of us think is the better choice. I'm deeply, deeply confused as to what you and those like you who are mindlessly whining on this thread were expecting from a refresh. This is all so very, very silly. Go buy a Windows laptop, sounds like you'll be happier.
So today I was at a customer site with a salesman and another engineer who was going to demo a new software product. I have 2012 Retina MBP, the other engineer had a shiny new 2017 MBP, the salesman had some sort of Windoze machine. We get ready to put on the big dog and pony show and what do we find? Other engineer can't hook up to the customer's HDMI projector because he seems to have lost the dongle. The salesman can't hook up to the HDMI port from his machine either.
I, however, have the requisite "legacy port" (HDMI) conveniently built into my machine, so all was well.
Yes, USB-C is the wave of the future. Sometimes, however, we must live in the present.
Fine for you. Not for me. I hate it with a passion. I consider it a design failure, irrespective of whether it mechanically works without failing or if they'll generously replace it for free. The keyboard design might be barely acceptable if they added a physical escape key and fixed those arrow keys Jony Ive or one of his disciples in the "design" lab decided to hoist upon us because it looks more symmetrical, completely irrespective of how destructive to actual usability it is.
As I've stated elsewhere, I'm happy for people that like this stuff, but for me these things are total non-starters.
@Zq7r thought the keyboard was fine. That's cool. It's his opinion and it obviously struck a nerve with you, but I'm not sure how an expiration of a warranty on a keyboard makes your 2016 MBP useless. Plug in a keyboard. If it's going to replace your 2011 as a home server, you're not going to be typing on it much anyway.
I have a 2016. My keyboard is fine, but it had its moments. Yes, I'm a bit worried, but as someone who's had virtually every part in a computer die on him once, losing a key or two on a keyboard is the least traumatic failure I can think of in a computer that's more than 4 years old. Even if the entire keyboard dies on me, I can simply plug in one or use a Bluetooth keyboard.
Don't get me wrong. If my keyboard dies on my on day one of year 4, I'll be screaming bloody murder, but at least I'll still be able to get things done.
Obviously not a rushed release, they released it when they meant to release...not sure at all either how "lack of advertising" on the literal day they come out is relevant to anything whatsoever, nor does it matter, as you yourself said. You wanted shiny full page magazine ads? That makes it a better piece of hardware?
This is far from a "minor hardware upgrade" - but if this is, then so is literally every upgrade to every computer that's ever happened in the history of personal computers. Would you have preferred they didn't upgrade it? What were you expecting? That they used some magic, otherworldly components that don't even exist yet? I'm vastly confused as to how the best mobile CPUs Intel currently has are still not good enough for any of you. What are you guys doing with your MBPs?
You haven't used the keyboard yet, neither has anyone else, a little early to be writing it off completely, in fact, impossible to do so since you have zero data at all. And, also, if they did indeed just "fix it to avoid having to repair it" - IE, they made sure it wouldn't break anymore...isn't that sort of the whole point? Who cares why they did it if they fixed it?
The prices have not gone up at all. The maximum price has gone up due to 32 gb of RAM and 4 tb of SSD, which are vastly more expensive. Otherwise the price tiers are the same as before. No one is forcing you to buy one that's loaded. And if you need a 32gb/4tb/6 core CNC'd aluminum laptop, I'm confused as to how you'd expect to pay any less.
Apple's not the only manufacturer going this direction, but they're the only ones who are going in with this much enthusiasm. The supply chain for USB-C interfaces has been tight around the world the past couple of years and for good reason.
Solid release. Looking forward to trying the new keyboard in the store. If it really is quieter (I want to kill my girlfriend when she's typing on her 2017, and I never use my work 2017 because I vastly prefer my 2014), I'll probably pull the trigger despite my various dislikes (dongles, Magsafe, etc.).
IMO, we're finally at the point where the performance improvement finally makes it "worth it" even if you prefer the old design.
IMO, we're finally at the point where the performance improvement finally makes it "worth it" even if you prefer the old design.
starting to hate Apple.....
SO you just give us a new chip.... on the 1,800+ computers.....
very nice of you....
SO you just give us a new chip.... on the 1,800+ computers.....
very nice of you....
Hope people have allot of $$$ around for that 4TB SSD. Specs look good. No more issues with "only up to 16Gig" (Now, they'll probably be issues "up to 32gig ")
Don't waste a Pro label on a notebook with only integrated graphics, regardless of the tier.
SSD (not Apple, but in general) pricing really needs to come down.
To be fair, 'Pro's' do have a dedicated graphics. Although still part of the Mac, its no longer the 'main' one. I would still call that 'external' to a point, why does it only have to be an adapter card which plugs in which makes it so ?
And if the client had a DVI connection, you would have needed a 2008 MBP... or a dongle. You can't ever count on your computer to have the ports you need in every situation. It was just chance that they had an HDMI projector and you had something that could connect to it. I've always had a lot of dongles because I always want to show up prepared for anything. At worst, I have one more dongle now.
I showed up to a client's with the wrong dongle once. That was the only time that ever happened. By the follwing week I had a multi-port dongle that would allow me to go from mDP to every popular monitor connector out there.
If you can't stand dongles, just buy a $5 USB-c to USB-A adapter. I have half a dozen of those. Some are assigned to specific devices I use all the time. A couple just ride along in my car and work bag in case they come in handy.
Hollow? No. You make some valid points, but I'm sitting here typing on a notebook with an ethernet port, HDMI, two USB-A, two USB-C, an SD card slot, and audio jack. I'm happy about that. It's incredibly useful to me. It may not be important to *you* but that doesn't make it any more "hollow" than me saying your apologism is hollow.