I was referring to physicalyl feeling it... you know... as in vibrating your sternum etc.
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KGI: Apple Developing High-End Over-Ear Headphones, Launching Late 2018 at the Earliest
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I was referring to physicalyl feeling it... you know... as in vibrating your sternum etc.
I just want AirPods that aren't "one size fits all". If Apple go for in-ear form factor with flexible seals I'll gladly drop my better quality wired earphones for them.
I'm not holding my breath.
I'm not holding my breath.
If you go to forums, under the subject matter you posted in, you can view/copy posts from years back.
I think you missed this post I wrote way earlier in the thread, but I think this is what is going to happen and it lines up basically with what you are saying:
"Yep. Except, like I mentioned above, I have a pair of Beats Studio 2's and I really like them. I think they are pretty damn good for the price. I also have AirPods, which I love but obviously the AirPods and Beats Studio's have different use cases.
Apple will definitely market these as "Pro Series" headphones, and they will discount all Beats products and the new Apple "Pro Series" headphones will cost an arm and a leg. They will market them towards audiophiles I bet. I am also sure they will adopt some of the technology from the AirPods, like instead of how Beats have a physical volume up/down button on the left side ear cup, these new "Pro Series" headphones will probably just have tap/touch controls like on the AirPods. They might even have their own special edition W series chip in them or something?"
Now back to this post. Now thinking about it even more they may put an A-Series chip in these like they did with HomePod...now I know that is a bit of a stretch but it could happen. Could help control the tap/touch controls, always on "Hey Siri", and maybe something to do to help play hi-fi audio which I believe if these are "Apple Pro-Series" headphones, they will do. I think iTunes will get hi-fi audio sooner rather than later, especially if these are coming out as a Pro Series.
Obviously all guesses, but it seems like the most logical thing they could do. Why would they make just a "normal" non-pro series headphone? If they did that, then they would just be re-branded Beats regardless of if they have some tech like the AirPods or not. Someone said it would be hard for Apple to switch to hi-fi in iTunes. I personally do think it would be that hard for them at all, they probably have internal versions of iTunes that are running with hi-fi audio that you can purchase and that work with Apple Music.
As I said before, time will tell...but I would like to hear your opinion on what I said here since we seem to be mostly on the same page.
I don't think Apple would go the "pro" route. Just my own gut feelings, but I think they'd rather sell more of these, rather than less. While Pro says, "Yes, these are for you" to one segment of the market, it says "Overpriced/overkill" to another. I don't think Apple needs to reduce the price of Beats. As I noted, I think they'd appeal to different market segments, so head-to-head pricing comparisons won't be a factor. The price/value of Beats is well established, no need to cheapen the brand. The Apple-branded headphones are likely to be marketed for their unique features (hypothetically, integration with the ecosystem) - those features should be able justify a price higher than Beats that lack those features.
Still, Apple's been hitting a value price, rather than premium/luxury price for its recent audio products. AirPods are perceived as a great value when looking at price/performance. Same for HomePod - it may be expensive for a smart speaker, but when compared to not-so-smart speakers it delivers a lot of bang (or bass) for the buck. I don't see why they'd necessarily stray from that approach for headphones. These are supposed to be up-sell items for iPhone, iPad, and Mac - price them too high, and the sale goes to another brand.
They made it their problem when they ditched the headphone jack. Bluetooth pairing is a PITA without the W1 chip, but right now it's not possible to get headphones with the W1 and really good sound.
Ideally, Apple would just license the chip, but obviously that will never happen.
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349 looks like a plausible price, can't see Apple pricing the 'Earpod' more expensive than the Homepod. And at that price Apple will sell millions but also boost other headphone sales in the process.
Announcement MAYBE 2018 with delays till 2019.
And is this bait for me not to buy any other headphones and wait.
And is this bait for me not to buy any other headphones and wait.
No delayed in the sense that when apple do, if ever announce this product. I’m pretty certain that when they said they will be released “such a date”... that it definitely will not actually release then. Just like with AirPods and HomePod. They was given release dates, both in which got delayed. So I’m highly expecting these to also be delayed once apple announce these. I wish apple would only announce products when they are completely ready.Delayed in the sense that it won’t make the timeline an analyst that doesn’t work for Apple has laid out?
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I’m not saying apple have. I did read the article. What I am saying that if they do announce this product, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are delayed.
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Yea I agree, I’m aware it’s a rumour. But if becomes true I wouldn’t be surprised if they are delayed, once announced. Just as AirPods and HomePod was.
What moving parts? Speakers move, which is the same as headphones. A fan? That's pretty simple and the MacBook even does away with it.
Sorry what I should have said that if apple “DO” announce this product, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are delayed, with apple’s current track record.
Now remember they have to be comfortable and not make your ear cartilage turn into styrofoam.
KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has issued a new research note outlining his expectations for Apple's "acoustic accessories" pipeline, claiming the company is working on both updated AirPods and "own-brand, high-end over-ear headphones" with an "all-new design." The new over-ear headphones are said to debut in the fourth quarter of this year at the earliest.
Beats Studio3 Wireless and current AirPods
Kuo's prediction on upgraded AirPods follows a similar report just a few days ago from Bloomberg. Kuo says the new AirPods should launch in the second half of this year.Beyond this year's update for the AirPods, Bloomberg claimed this week that Apple is working on a subsequent AirPods update that would bring water resistance to the earphones, but that model wouldn't arrive until 2019 at the earliest.
Article Link: KGI: Apple Developing High-End Over-Ear Headphones, Launching Late 2018 at the Earliest
That is the thing though, these "Pro Series" headphones could be like the Apple TV. Apple does not make a lot of money on the Apple TV, remember they always say it is more of a hobbyist product. Now, that may be changing a little bit now since cord-cutting is becoming a bigger thing. I have had every Apple TV generation made, except for the 4k because I do not have a 4k tv..but I love my 4th Gen. ATV. I cut the cord over a year ago and went with a continue to go with DirecTV NOW. Love it, and has helped me save almost $85.00 a month that Time Warner/Spectrum was robbing me of. Anyway...back to the topic at hand...
Now Apple can keep Beats and AirPods as their mainstream headphones, aimed at the non-pro consumer. With the Apple branded "Pro Series" headphones, they can market them at people who want the best headphones that Apple makes, and (my guess) with hi-fi support in iTunes and other services like Tidal possibly. I think these will start off like the Apple TV did, being a hobbyist type product and Apple will see where it goes. They may fly off the store shelves or be a niche product that takes a while to catch on with people. It is not like Apple will be taking a huge chance here, if these were to flop (which I do not think they will) Apple will just fall back on Beats and AirPods. I would most likely buy a pair of these if they are in fact a "Pro Series" type of headphone, especially if they can play hi-fi music and have tap/touch gesture controls like the AirPods, and also always on "Hey Siri" support. I would even make a prediction that if these are pro series type headphones they will probably come with a custom W series chip that only these headphones will have, or maybe a whole new type of chip that only these will support.
Just my best guess...
More like Eddy Cue made a $3B mistake. AirPods is proof that Apple didn’t need to buy beats for their hardware, and the botched Apple Music launch is proof Apple should have created the streaming service in house.
The acquisition only served as a distraction, and Eddy, at any other company, would have been fired by now.
The Beats Studio 2's I own, which are "over the ear" headphones not "on the ear" like the Beats Solo's are extremely comfortable. I wear glasses and also own the Beats Solo 2's, and am going to be selling them because they absolutely make my ears hurt so bad after about 30 minutes of wearing them. With the Studio's, I can wear them for hours and they do not hurt my ears at all, except maybe my eardrums if I play them at full blast, haha.
So comfort should not be an issue with these Apple branded headphones.
So true! Don’t think many companies have a lot to fear, except w1 chip is good for the Apple ecosystem. But Siri is so garbage that voice commands are useless. If they were usb-c instead of lightning, or both, then it could be a winner.
But Tim Cook is the master of killing products to maximize profits, so he will probably add some gold and sell for 1k plus.
One cool feature I really really like from my bose wireless is the ability to have two different phones paired at the same time, and you can answer calls coming from either one. For me it is a must feature so i’ll be sticking with them.
Tried it but couldn’t search the posts as they are only sorted by chronological date.
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Not neccessarily. As there was and still is a great deal of equity on the books for Beats, many here figured Apple would keep producing Beats products.
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Tried that, thanks. Have to go through many pages of posts to find it. Eventually gave up.
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Agree, thanks. The MR post search is only ordered by date. Wish I could change the search criteria to “topic” instead. Will try a general Google search.
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Yes, indeed. Thank you.
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Lame complaint. Audiophiles are saying that regular $350 bookshelf speakers sound much better than HomePod (which they do). As far as the headphones are concerned you'd better watch that they don't make them Apple Music accessory too (where the only thing you can use it for is listening to Apple Music).
I don't think they'll be ridiculous in price, probably be the same price as their other primo cans (Beats)
Are Ming-Chi Kuo rumors really noteworthy?
To be fair, Ming-Chi Kuo called it ‘high end’. Maybe he doesn’t have a clue what high end is.
To be fair, Ming-Chi Kuo called it ‘high end’. Maybe he doesn’t have a clue what high end is.
What's wrong with Beats? They did spend billions on that merger. Might as well just remodel those.
KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has issued a new research note outlining his expectations for Apple's "acoustic accessories" pipeline, claiming the company is working on both updated AirPods and "own-brand, high-end over-ear headphones" with an "all-new design." The new over-ear headphones are said to debut in the fourth quarter of this year at the earliest.
Beats Studio3 Wireless and current AirPods
Kuo's prediction on upgraded AirPods follows a similar report just a few days ago from Bloomberg. Kuo says the new AirPods should launch in the second half of this year.Beyond this year's update for the AirPods, Bloomberg claimed this week that Apple is working on a subsequent AirPods update that would bring water resistance to the earphones, but that model wouldn't arrive until 2019 at the earliest.
Article Link: KGI: Apple Developing High-End Over-Ear Headphones, Launching Late 2018 at the Earliest
HomePod can stream ALAC/FLAC via AirPlay, and I still believe that Apple will add lossless streaming to Apple Music at some point. Maybe even with the launch of this.
Also, I doubt it will be noise canceling. Some passive isolation is more than enough. They are more than likely going for quality here.
Lol.... why do you feel the need to validate yourself on an internet forum about consumer electronics?