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KGI Expects New iPhones to Have 5MP Front Camera, Retain 16GB, 64GB and 128GB Capacities

Jsameds said:
Actually 16GB is enough for 4000 12MP photos.

At the end of the day it's annoying, yes, but it's the users own fault if they bought a product that doesn't suit their needs.
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Anyone who wants more storage than 16GB has to pay up! 16GB -> 64GB was an obvious and dirty ploy inspired by greed. It would cost them nothing to offer 32GB as base but then of course people wouldn't be opting for 64GB. Somehow Samsung, LG and others weren't bold enough for such tactics.

No one at Apple cares about the customer, only how to milk 'em better..
 
Liquinn said:
Why?
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Why? We all know that 16GB is nothing anymore. Apple is pretty much fore upgrading everyone to the 64GB. The cost difference in the 16GB module and the 32GB module is negligible. Straight profit for Apple.
 
ActionableMango said:
Sure, I'll take 32GB at the same price point. The argument isn't that 16GB is somehow better at the same price point as 32GB--the argument is whether or not 16GB is way too small. For many of us, it's not.

I have Wi-Fi and work and at home, which is where I am 99% of the time. Streaming provides a much larger catalog than I could ever carry on the phone itself, and I don't have to spend time managing what I sync.

Many of us simply don't need the space. Having a different use case than you doesn't make us sheep. I honestly don't know what people with, say, a 128GB phone put on there...but I accept that people have difference preferences and needs.
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You're missing the point. Using your logic, the base model should be 4GB or have no useable storage at all since there are people out there who barely use their phone for anything other than calls, texts, and browsing. You'd be tooting a different horn then.

The fact is - the standard is 32GB. Phones that have 16GB still are either very cheap or have expandable storage. It's ludicrous that with Apple's high margins that they can't give up $10 to give the consumer an extra 16GB of storage. I know you may mean well, but sorry people who defend Apple over this comes across as very sheep, fanboyish and anti-consumer. Apple has no excuse.
 
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Seriously, it's time to dump the 16GB iPhone and leave it for the cheaper model, for the high price they ask for, the minimum should be 32GB, 64GB, 128GB. For the 6S Plus add a 256GB option for those who really want it all.
 
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Liquinn said:
Apple offered 16, 32 and 64 on the iPhone 5S - why can't they offer 32GB here?
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So T. Cook can brag about how much higher iPhone's ASP in a few seconds on an earnings conference call vs the competition. As for anyone who bothers to record any 4K video and/or listen to music other than what Dr.Dre/Jimmy tells them to listen to will have to pony up the extra $100 for an extra few dollars of flash ram...

If Apple offered 32gb as base, the number of 64gb upgraders would be cut in half...
 
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morcutt11 said:
And we do - no one is claiming that they are being forced into a configuration that they don't want. Our point is that the existence of the base 16 GB is for no other reason that Apple trying to drive profit and isn't in the best interest of the consumer.
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Apple driving profit at the expense of the interest of the consumer has always been the case. The essence of the complaint is nothing more complicated than wanting the iPhone to be cheaper.

Given the continued rise of iPhone sales, Apple has ZERO incentive to do anything differently. As long as people are willing to pay in greater numbers, Apple would be foolish to do anything else.


morcutt11 said:
The space occupied by the OS and photos/4k video make the base offering extremely limited, when the cost to upgrade the RAM to 32 GB would be almost negligible. Apple certainly has a right to make a profit, but one of the Apple's core values is to produce products that have positive impact on people's lives in how they interact with each other and their overall use of technology in their lives. Hence the strong fitness emphasis, HomeKit home automation, ease of use in the operating systems they make, gesture-based hardware, etc. - it is about making life simpler and more productive through intuitive technology platforms vs. enslaving people to the complexity of the technology that they use. 16 GB means that anyone making any real use of the camera and videos will have to focus more on managing the memory/storage of their device. The 16 GB is certainly functional - but Apple has never been about just being functional.
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Apple replaced the 32GB model with the 64GB at the same price point. Comparatively-speaking, that is a tremendous improvement... for $100 more than the 16GB model you can get 4x the storage. Again, it comes down to people being tightwads and not wanting to cough up $100 more.
 
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I cannot understand why a high end state-of-the-art luxurious phone like the iPhone 6S would offer a base model with only 16MB of RAM in 2015!!!!

In my mind, that is like the following IMAGINARY products....

The new BMW 3 Series comes with only 3 wheels on the base model

Coach leather bag features a strap that's too short on the entry level model.

Chanel Number 4 and 1/2: The entry level perfume doesn't really have enough scent and seems to be made mostly of water.

Montblanc fountain pen. Entry level model has super tiny ink cartridges that have only enough ink for you to write 3 pages, sorry.

Tag Heuer. Entry level watch. It only tells time up to 9 o'clock. The rest of the hour numbers are missing on the base model.

Harry Wintson engagement ring. Entry level model. .00000005 karats. Hey, it's entry level?

What's the problem with each of these silly examples? They degrade the idea of a luxury/premium/quality brand by offering cheap and incomplete entry level models.

I think that's what Apple is doing here by offering only 16 GB of RAM. It's cheap. It makes Apple's brand cheaper.

Bad idea. I get it, the company wants to force you to pay up and get a higher level model.

But it leaves a bad taste for the buyer, a feeling you're being very obviously manipulated.

I would argue it's short term profit margins gained, at the expense of consumer sentiment about the brand.
 
sracer said:
Apple driving profit at the expense of the interest of the consumer has always been the case. The essence of the complaint is nothing more complicated than wanting the iPhone to be cheaper.

Given the continued rise of iPhone sales, Apple has ZERO incentive to do anything differently. As long as people are willing to pay in greater numbers, Apple would be foolish to do anything else.



Apple replaced the 32GB model with the 64GB at the same price point. Comparatively-speaking, that is a tremendous improvement... for $100 more than the 16GB model you can get 4x the storage. Again, it comes down to people being tightwads and not wanting to cough up $100 more.
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You are Apple's idea of a perfect customer.
 
512ke said:
I cannot understand why a high end state-of-the-art luxurious phone like the iPhone 6S would offer a base model with only 16MB of RAM in 2015!!!!

In my mind, that is like the following IMAGINARY products....

The new BMW 3 Series comes with only 3 wheels on the base model

Coach leather bag features a strap that's too short on the entry level model.

Chanel Number 4 and 1/2: The entry level perfume doesn't really have enough scent and seems to be made mostly of water.

Montblanc fountain pen. Entry level model has super tiny ink cartridges that have only enough ink for you to write 3 pages, sorry.

Tag Heuer. Entry level watch. It only tells time up to 9 o'clock. The rest of the hour numbers are missing on the base model.

Harry Wintson engagement ring. Entry level model. .00000005 karats. Hey, it's entry level?

What's the problem with each of these silly examples? They degrade the idea of a luxury/premium/quality brand by offering cheap and incomplete entry level models.

I think that's what Apple is doing here by offering only 16 GB of RAM. It's cheap. It makes Apple's brand cheaper.

Bad idea. I get it, the company wants to force you to pay up and get a higher level model.

But it leaves a bad taste for the buyer, a feeling you're being very obviously manipulated.

I would argue it's short term profit margins gained, at the expense of consumer sentiment about the brand.
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Its 16GB of storage, NOT RAM.
 
I have a VERY hard time seeing Apple will market 4K since I'm assuming most people are gonna buy the 16 GB version and can't use it for videos. You also have to remember that a lot of teenagers/grandparents won't know how to change 4K settings if it's the default the video setting on the phone, so people are gonna be running out of storage in under a month of owning this, thus causing outrages and bad-word-of-mouth towards Apple, and sales to fly down low. Apple, you are a great company, but it's choices like these that make me lose respect in your business customs.
 
sracer said:
Apple driving profit at the expense of the interest of the consumer has always been the case. The essence of the complaint is nothing more complicated than wanting the iPhone to be cheaper.

Given the continued rise of iPhone sales, Apple has ZERO incentive to do anything differently. As long as people are willing to pay in greater numbers, Apple would be foolish to do anything else.



Apple replaced the 32GB model with the 64GB at the same price point. Comparatively-speaking, that is a tremendous improvement... for $100 more than the 16GB model you can get 4x the storage. Again, it comes down to people being tightwads and not wanting to cough up $100 more.
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I got the 4S and 5 both in 64GB versions. Looking at it now, paying the extra $200, I can get 8x the base storage. I like the fact that the largest storage option has doubled for the price. But yes it would be nice to have 32GB as the base storage and it would cost Apple next to nothing on a per device basis.
 
Let them milk while they can. iPhone era won't last forever. And when that time comes, let's see what they will do.
 
kepler20b said:
the bigger question is does it have 1gb ram.
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I believe the rumors say it will finally be 2GB. I certainly hope so. Another big question that doesn't get enough attention IMO is the battery. according to the rumors it will be 1715 mAh as opposed to 1800 mAh in iphone 6. I REALLY hope that's wrong. if true it would mean that there won't be any battery life improvements and they plan to offset weaker battery by better OS optimization. NOT what I want to see.

Actually, now that I think on it I wonder how these two rumors could both be true. 2GB vs 1GB RAM should mean a pretty big hit to the battery life. so a smaller battery might mean it's still 1GB RAM.
 
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V.K. said:
I believe the rumors say it will finally be 2GB. I certainly hope so. Another big question that doesn't get enough attention IMO is the battery. according to the rumors it will be 1715 mAh as opposed to 1800 mAh in iphone 6. I REALLY hope that's wrong. if true it would mean that there won't be any battery life improvements and they plan to offset weaker battery by better OS optimization. NOT what I want to see.

Actually, now that I think on it I wonder how these two rumors could both be true. 2GB vs 1GB RAM should mean a pretty big hit to the battery life. so a smaller battery might mean it's still 1GB RAM.
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2 gb of ram doesn't magically mean less battery life. That's a myth spread by iPad air 1 apologists. If extra ram was a loss of battery life, my 2012 mbp13 should've lost 75% of its battery life when going from 4 to 16gb. In fact extra ram is a battery saver as your phone won't have to keep running the lte radio to refresh every damn webpage!
 
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I gotta agree it's unfortunate. Bump to 12 mp camera and 5 mp front cameras yet sticking with a base 16 gb sucks.
 
I think that the 16gb model exist only so apple can put on a lower price tag and flash that at people to spark an interest on the iphone. When they actually buy the phone most would pick 64 or 128gb. So the 16gb model is purely a marketing ploy. For us that are already interested the iphone starts at 64gb 399.
 
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