I'd honestly love to see both. Too end does legitimately get pricey for both the manufacturer and the consumer. The bottom end is just peanuts though.
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KGI Expects New iPhones to Have 5MP Front Camera, Retain 16GB, 64GB and 128GB Capacities
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We (and I include myself in this) keep saying the difference is $3. Do we know that? Do we know that it's not even less? Maybe more?
Do you not use much in terms of apps? It's hard to find an app now under 120mb. I looked, and many of my apps are in the 300-500 range (they're every day apps, not including games here, of which I keep 2-3 at most).
I think, when all is said and done apps take up about 8 gigs of space. Text messages, for some reason, also take an irrationally large amount of space for those that don't have a habit of clearing them frequently.
May I ask a different sort of question? Would you be comfortable with apple lowering the storage space to save even more money while keeping the msrp the same?
My understanding from a different page is one minute is about 2gb. Regardless , nothing we record is uncompressed. It's all always pretty heavily compressed (with some very good algorithms, mind you). You're not off point, 16gb is pretty low for current recording (with the os and everything on there I doubt you could squeeze more then a couple hours outnofnthebthibg
Surely the people you're referring to (want to watch movies and have large music libraries) are exactly the sort of people that shouldnt be buying 16 gig iPhones?
The problem seems to be that people are a bit entitled and want better products for less/no more money and business just doesn't work like that.
If they could buy 32 gig iPhones, they'd be spending 100 $/£ more, so what the issue with getting a 64 gig model for the same extra 100 £/$?
It's like saying "My friend has a 5 seater car, but likes/wants/needs to fit 7 people in for their journey, but the model of that car that has 7 seats is x amount of $/£ more"
Yes, of course it's more-its aimed at a different demographic.
It's pretty much business 101 IMO.
Not too surprising. The iPhone 7 will be the real revolution — not this stopgap spec bump. Wait until next year if you have a 6, honestly. 16 GB has no place in the modern world, especially on a premium tech device such as the 6s.
Wanna guess which one sells more? The Z5 will be in the bargain bin 3 months after release and won't even be an afterthought in people's minds. Plus, you won't get a software update since Sony will have moved on to something else, leaving you with a nice shiny 4K paperweight LOL.
There is nothing magical about it. Ram is volatile so is always on. What would be magical if it could do that without consuming power.
lol, nice math! ram is hardly the only thing that consumes electricity. Among other things, your mbp has a much more powerful and power hungry processor than an iPhone. Same for GPU. That's why mbp has a much bigger battery too. The percentage of power consumption due to Ram is MUCH smaller on mbp than on an iPhone and doesn't affect battery life nearly as much.
Now that makes sense. Perhaps things like that plus OS optimization will mean that 6s running ios9 will have battery life comparable to iPhone 6 on ios8 even with smaller battery and more RAM. But it certainly won't have significantly better battery life which is a pity.
How many people want to bet if Apple kept the 16 gb, offered 32 gb for an extra $100 this complaint would go away?
People are stupid.. the same people that would have paid an extra $100 are up in arms because they get double that for the same money.
I was already paying for 64 gb since the iPhone 4S.. Now that storage option is $100 cheaper.. Or, I get double the storage for the same money.
The only people complaining are the cheapskates.
People are stupid.. the same people that would have paid an extra $100 are up in arms because they get double that for the same money.
I was already paying for 64 gb since the iPhone 4S.. Now that storage option is $100 cheaper.. Or, I get double the storage for the same money.
The only people complaining are the cheapskates.
you could express your idea without being rude and offensive. Or calling people stupid. Well...I guess that's how the internet goes in these days.
Aside from that you are missing the point. People who complain think that a 16gb phone is simply not a good product, especially at a premium price (730€ in Europe, same as the 3gs was, for 599€). That's it. It's very simple. It would be better if they simply raise the price to 830€ for a 64gb phone. I know that many will disagree on this, but that's my opinion.
Now, I just want to add an other aspect of the problem:
16 gb devices are keeping the whole iOS platform behind!
If you are an app developer (especially a game developer) you will hardly release an app of 4gb (maximum permitted limit for the app store). Because you know that most people with a 16gb iDevice will never install it. And that's more than half the iPhones sold. An iPad Air 2 has about the same power as a PS3. Yet, a good looking, deep, PS3 game is about 15-20GB in size (and the resolution of Ps3 games is usually just 720p or less). A 16gb base model penalizes users and developers even if they buy the 64 or 128 one.
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Wrong. Apple DID offer a 32GB option for an extra $100. There were complaints. Drop the 16GB price by $50 and have a 32GB option at the current 16GB price, then yes the complaints would go away.
Those people are not stupid, just engaging in a bit of intellectual dishonesty. Wanting a 32GB option to be priced at the current 16GB is a convoluted way of saying they want the iPhone to be cheaper. Apparently flat out saying one wants a cheaper iPhone is looked down upon as something worthy of the "people of Walmart" crowd.
I don't know what what "much" is in terms of apps. I counted and there are 71 apps in the "usage" list, including the default apps.
No. In fact in my post I said I would be fine with 32GB at the same price.
I think people are taking my argument as "16GB is better than 32GB at the same price", which is not what I said. I said that many of us have a use case that's perfectly fine at 16GB and it doesn't mean we are "sheep" or "fanboys". Those labels are what I have a problem with.
Maybe it's time for Apple to up the price by $50 for the low model, include 32gb, and then charge $100 more than that for a 128gb model. Get rid of 64 and charge a bit more for 32, and then the only people who need to upgrade are the ones who need 128. Then it's a win-win, everybody gets at least 32, and Apple probably ends up with even more money because all the phones would be upcharged.
I'm literally done with Apple if they keep 16GB. Done.
NAND flash prices are so low these days there is literally NO EXCUSE to keep the base model at 16GB.
I have owned every iPhone since the very first model in 2007. I remember when the App Store was an exciting rumor. But keeping the same base model storage at the same level for four models while the actual NAND flash price has fallen so much...? That's just too much for me. That would be pure greed.
NAND flash prices are so low these days there is literally NO EXCUSE to keep the base model at 16GB.
I have owned every iPhone since the very first model in 2007. I remember when the App Store was an exciting rumor. But keeping the same base model storage at the same level for four models while the actual NAND flash price has fallen so much...? That's just too much for me. That would be pure greed.
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Yes, but that's before decompression. After decompression, 16GB is still going to be VERY tiny.
Besides, do you know how unimaginably, unbelievably cheap the difference between 16GB and 32GB is? We're literally talking pennies.
I wasn't responding based on your sheep statement or anything else. I realize you're not arguing 16gb is better than 32gb and that's why I made no real mention of that. Unsure if there may be confusion there or not, just want to be clear about that.
I was just curious how you were getting by with 16gb since even some folks who consider themselves light users seem to be feeling the crunch. What's your average app size? By my count 71 apps should be taking up around half of that available space. I guess apps are the only thing that takes up space on your device?
The reason I asked about lowering space was simply to judge whether you felt even 16gb was more than necessary. No other motive there. In curious to seeing people staring 16gb is enough could actually go with less. 16gb has been the base for a while. Wondering if people have just learned to live with it or if it is somehow the oefect base size.
So, I don't understand the pricing here. Most of the carriers don't have contracts anymore. So, why would Apple be showing "contract" price. For AT&T customers? It's time to stop hiding the actual cost. We need to know what we are getting ourselves into.
iOS 9 takes up 4.6gb. There is still more than 70% of the space available. (And with new app thinning, it will save another 3gb)
My wife has had 16gb for the past 4 years - never run out of space. In fact, she has over 4gb still available. 16gb is 'too much' for her.
This is the type of memory SHE needs for her low intensive phone use with 10 apps and pictures. She has no need to pay more money for something she won't use. Apple understands these users.
Perhaps. But I think the argument is that they should be selling the 32 GB for the 16 GB price. So, it certainly wouldn't affect your wife negatively if her new phone was to be 32 GB.
Mostly it's an easy comparison to prior years. However, if you actually go to Apple's website you'll see that the "contract" price is still there for Verizon and Sprint, there's just no contract...it's the down payment on a loan. For AT&T you see the monthly rate and for T-Mobile you see the full price.
I don't know how to determine average app size with doing all the math manually. Most are around the 60mb range. The largest two are a game and Spotify at about 400-500mb each, but there's a big drop as the next biggest is only 154mb. Honestly at 71 applications there are a bunch that are just a waste.