I doubt Apple feels like they could sell that many. If the iPhone 6 experience has taught them anything, it's that a small minority of people want a 4 inch phone, but they would be fine settling for 4.7 inch phone.
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I don't necessarily have heartburn with any of your opinions, but for the sake of conversation:
Sure. And maybe they'll get a few of those. But price point is important and many of the Android users don't care about the Apple ecosystem. If they can browse their FB page and get calls (I'd venture the primary use for most casual users) even a great, albeit expensive iPhone will not attract the needed converts to sustain the then to now observed growth. At some point, sooner than later I might guess based on the sea of new and used options out there, will need to adjust their price or tap emergent markets to keep the growth going as it has been in the past.
I'll assume the last one standing will have the most compelling Android product. Previous Android users will turn to them rather than Apple (for the most part). If so, then that OEM will satisfy that need and Apple still won't be able to attract enough converts to sustain the previous growth curve.
Nobody but NOBODY will capitulate the mobile market to Apple. The stakes are just too high. Someone may fold, but someone else will fill the void.
I sure hope so. As much as I like my iP6, I sure as heck don't want to see only Apple left standing with no one else to keep them honest.
Maybe we should be buying Amazon stock.
Seriously, we can almost guess how things seem to play out with these tech stocks. The manipulation by analysts. Why not play along?
Are we who invest in Apple stock (myself included in the past), blinded by our passion of Apple products, that we can't see how not to waste time on AAPL?
Right next to a $2K MacPro and a $1K MacMini with mid-end discrete video and user replaceable RAM and storage. Apple sunk those ships in the harbor in broad daylight. What's anyone gonna do about it!
(Personally I was the biggest detractor of a 5"+ iPhone but the old iPhones feel so tiny now. No desire for a smaller screen anymore. But I do still pine for the days when you could buy a bare bones MP and deck it out as you saw fit and over time as your budget allowed. Really hate this what you buy is what you are stuck with era.)
How is that the case? Apple never gave customers the opportunity to decide. They said- here are the 2 new phones, if you want latest tech/camera, here are your only options (4.7 and 5.5 screens). I have a bunch of friends (many who have 6/6s) who said they would have preferred to stick with a 4-inch model.
Really? Absolutely "No one -- NO ONE--" ??
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That's the exact same thing they said with iPhone 6. There's a point where the iPhone will we too powerful to the point that it becomes a Mac. Will last for years and well no real reason to upgrade. Declines should start happening within a few years
Poor dumb Tim Cook. If only he would pay attention to the trolls in this forum then Apple might finally be successful.
The category (iPone/smartphones) is so far matured that we should not expect miracles for the 7. The chip speed and size will eventually hit a limit. Same for camera pixels.
More GBs okay, they should be at 256 already, but it's Apple.
Yes to bigger screen real estate over making the phone bigger.
While my 4S is still doing it, I will buy a 6S plus as soon as they are widely available.
Partially because my eyesight is getting bad and partially because I waited long enough to get a lot of better features. (I am not an update must have latest crazy person)
Maybe tweaking voice recognition.
Apple services is another problem issue they don't seem to address swiftly.
There isn't one service of theirs I like or use and pay extra for. Dropbox runs rings around them.
Apple Music nah, iCloud nah.
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I think the surveys and even the Apple Watch forums here shows that the vast majority are enjoying their Apple Watch, including myself.
I don't think Tim not disclosing numbers is an indication that it has flopped... Just as Amazon not disclosing Prime members doesn't mean Prime is a flop.
On the contrary, he mentioned that sales are growing every quarter and we know it outsold the iPhone and iPad in their first 90 days. So if anything, sales are likely robust. But why paint a target on your back for competitors?
Even that difference is not big enough to offset the total profit in this one year, it generates larger benefit to Apple by making sure enough people to stay familiar with iPhone's user interface, not the Android's.
To help you understand how important that factor is, I can tell you that I've heard 4 times from 4 different friends of mine that, after long time consideration and trying different computers in the stores, they chose Windows computers over Macs, not for price reasons, as their employers were paying. They liked the hardware design of Macs a lot more, but it is much more comfortable for them to use the Windows user interface, even though they all heard a lot about the easy-to-use and less-prone-to-virus attributes of Mac OS. That's how strong habits can affect the sales in the long run!
You are probably right about the saturation being near!
I was going to upgrade my 6 to the 6s and then I realized that the 6 is doing everything I want it to!
If the 6/plus wasn't such a great phone, you'd probably see even more growth.
We'll have to see what the 7 brings.
Sounds more like dodging the question rather than boasting.
Funny how simple minds are fooled so easily.
Unless there is a price drop I don't see that watch attracting Apple enthusiast over the holiday. I'm buying one but it won't be until version 2.
Buying a Apple watch during holidays is like buying a iPhone in July. Makes no sense.
Buying a Apple watch during holidays is like buying a iPhone in July. Makes no sense.
Do you think they'll ever get rid of the biggest bezels in the industry?
That HUGE Chin and Forehead are so 2007.
Don't even get started on the ridiculous antenna bands. Gaudy at best.
Definitely. Capitalism these days seem to preach, "MORE, MORE, MORE, no matter what!" which is a flawed mentality. I'm not here to debate capitalism, but exponential growth forever is impossible. You have initial sales, then momentum, then exponential growth, then it starts to taper off and become more linear. But watch the shareholders go into a panic when Apple has its first "bad" quarter. Ludicrous.Exactly. It doesn't matter they won't grow forever. Next year they could drop, then they could be down further the year after, then back up...
As long as Apple are making plenty of profit, with a decent marketshare, etc (which they undoubtably are) we shouldn't care what shareholders think